NRL admits three wrong calls cost Parramatta in loss to Broncos

[Russell]

Pretty borderline complaints to be honest. Extra time is always a blood bath and nobody should expect high fidelity refereeing because there is just stuff happening everywhere and refs are legitimately too afraid to blow penalties in GP.

Hodgson must have been about 5 m offside when the Raiders charged down one of Townsend's last FG attempts on Sunday, but refs let that go.

The Eels ones were borderline at best, bit of pushing and shoving or Fifita going behind team-mates.

News flash for Parra, the game was there to be won and if you could actually tackle David Fifita, Isaako would have been taking his shot from 40 metres out rather than 20.

Broncos get an advantage because they are a 1-city team who basically play at home on Friday night every second week, because they consistently pull crowds of 30K and good ratings. But that's not bias, that's business reality. The day the Tigers pull 30K weekly and have a stadium full of paying sponsors, then maybe we can get some preferential match allocations.

I still maintain that this Broncos conspiracy is baloney, the team is limping into the finals at best and if the NRL was legit helping them along they wouldn't be 1 point inside the 8.

Open your eyes people, Broncos have only missed the finals twice in 31 seasons, they don't need the NRL's help to play finals footy!

Why have any rules at all then eh! Just make it a free for all.

Donkeys offside - oh! that is ok they were only 5 metres offside.

Cameron Smith threw that pass forward - Oh! that is ok it is only 3 metres forward.

Cordner went into him with his shoulder, no arms wrapped around though - Oh! get serious this is a tough game - so the guy won't play for 5 weeks - they have replacements.

YOU are wrong jirskyr for once - rules are there to be upheld to the best of the referees ability whether it is Donkeys, Storm or us - whether you have 30k watching or 5k. whether 9 Sports want Rorters in the semis or the Titans.

That is what we should be striving for in the so called "Greatest game of all" - not that we as Tigers should be striving to fill a 30k stadium to get some real calls in the game.

Admin and refereeing in the NRL stinks and if they don't do something about it very soon they will be playing games in front of 25 - that is a crowd of 25 (family) not 25K.

 

[jirskyr]

Disagree! As @Tiger_Steve says, it is the little 50/50’s that really should be left to players to sort out as they would when completing any other of their one percent plays, that are actually being refereed unfairly

But that supports my point. Refs called back Fergo, ok, but they did not get involved in the late plays that saw Fifita charge up the middle and Isaako slot the FG. Refs totally not involved in the 50/50 about whether or not Fifita may have shuffled behind his own player or not.

Unless you are suggesting that refs intentionally get involved when it suits Broncos and intentionally turn a blind eye when it doesn't suit Broncos. That would have to be intentional, because it takes a conscious mind to weigh up whether or not an outcome suits a particular side, then act on that.

No you have selection bias, plain and simple. You can't just say "3 50/50 decisions favoured Parra, there you go, evidence of referee bias". What about the 50/50s that favoured Parra, did you count those? All the 50/50 calls over the entire season?

Because yeah you can go back and cherry-pick certain incidents that could have turned a match, and that is what the journos have done in this article. Why? Because it's sensationalist, because it generates clicks. Are you all forgetting that Broncos had a player sin-binned and Parra wasted those 10 minutes with a man advantage? Or the fact that the refs sent the last two Parra tries upstairs as "try"? Or the fact that Parra couldn't even contain one golden-point set from Broncos, which basically had nothing to do with the refs. They won the toss, kicked off in GP and couldn't stop the Broncs running 80 metres.

No, unless you can show me a systematic favouritism by refs towards Broncos, intentional or otherwise, then you are just displaying selection bias. You find and recall only the small items that support this idea you have about Broncos and ignore everything else that indicates a contrary position.

E.g. do Broncos have systematically lower penalties conceded and penalties gained year on year? Do these penalties come at key moments, e.g. field position or time in match? Do Broncos score points off these "leg ups"? Etc.

Because it's interesting, of the least-penalised sides in 2019, Broncos are 6th, but Dragons are 5th and Cowboys are 1st. So there isn't a 1-1 correlation between being penalised and ladder position / wins. NRL doesn't appear to show penalties received, but surely one component of Broncos favouritism would include penalties both conceded and given?

The point being debated is whether they would instead of regularly “limping into finals” actually miss out altogether without the help of these contentious calls. It’s not like any other team has had more in recent memory (if I’m not mistaken?)

But that's also my point, wouldn't a conscious or even subconscious effort to get Broncos to the finals every year result in them being entrenched, over the course of 24 matches, rather than sneaking in? Or do you suppose that the refs only get involved when the Broncos' title campaign starts to falter and they get nervous that Broncos might miss out?

Broncos make the finals most years, always have. Whether or not they limp there or not, they have a track record of doing what's required to make the finals. They also have a fair record, the past decade or so, of failing to produce in the finals. And frankly that isn't much chop, for a team that the refs are apparently biasing towards, if the Broncos get knocked out after 1 home match, or don't even get a home match, what's the point? Just 1 extra game. Surely the refs want Broncos to make it to the GF to maximise the QLD involvement?

 

[jirskyr]

@jirskyr But the Broncos getting the favourable timeslot due to good business sense is a form of bias.

Of course, but that's just Brisbane's luck. And it has nothing to do with on-field considerations like reffing. If Tigers pulled 30K per week and played finals every year, they'd put us on Friday nights as well. Heck they used to play us on Friday a lot, even though we weren't a finals side, because of our attack and the unpredictability of our matches.

We can't ignore that NRL are a business and they cannot be 100% equal across all considerations when it comes to running the business. You can't just be giving Friday night timeslots to Titans vs Dragons at Robina, and that's on the Titans and Dragons, not NRL.

The AFL have provided special allowances for the NSW and QLD clubs for years. NRL gave Wests Tigers $8M to merge, that's bias as well, they could have just cut us from the competition.

 

[jirskyr]

YOU are wrong jirskyr for once - rules are there to be upheld to the best of the referees ability whether it is Donkeys, Storm or us - whether you have 30k watching or 5k. whether 9 Sports want Rorters in the semis or the Titans.

As long as it's consistent, it doesn't matter. Refs don't blow the whistle much in GP, for anyone. They don't do it much in Origin or finals footy either. Or, have them blow every single possible infringement like rugby and that also doesn't matter, so long as it's consistent.

It doesn't have anything to do with crowds except for the fact that home sides tend to get a home crowd advantage, not necessarily borne out in referee performance, but also home side's own energy and performance.

 

[Tigerboy]

Disagree! As @Tiger_Steve says, it is the little 50/50’s that really should be left to players to sort out as they would when completing any other of their one percent plays, that are actually being refereed unfairly

But that supports my point. Refs called back Fergo, ok, but they did not get involved in the late plays that saw Fifita charge up the middle and Isaako slot the FG. Refs totally not involved in the 50/50 about whether or not Fifita may have shuffled behind his own player or not.

Unless you are suggesting that refs intentionally get involved when it suits Broncos and intentionally turn a blind eye when it doesn't suit Broncos. That would have to be intentional, because it takes a conscious mind to weigh up whether or not an outcome suits a particular side, then act on that.

No you have selection bias, plain and simple. You can't just say "3 50/50 decisions favoured Parra, there you go, evidence of referee bias". What about the 50/50s that favoured Parra, did you count those? All the 50/50 calls over the entire season?

Because yeah you can go back and cherry-pick certain incidents that could have turned a match, and that is what the journos have done in this article. Why? Because it's sensationalist, because it generates clicks. Are you all forgetting that Broncos had a player sin-binned and Parra wasted those 10 minutes with a man advantage? Or the fact that the refs sent the last two Parra tries upstairs as "try"? Or the fact that Parra couldn't even contain one golden-point set from Broncos, which basically had nothing to do with the refs. They won the toss, kicked off in GP and couldn't stop the Broncs running 80 metres.

No, unless you can show me a systematic favouritism by refs towards Broncos, intentional or otherwise, then you are just displaying selection bias. You find and recall only the small items that support this idea you have about Broncos and ignore everything else that indicates a contrary position.

E.g. do Broncos have systematically lower penalties conceded and penalties gained year on year? Do these penalties come at key moments, e.g. field position or time in match? Do Broncos score points off these "leg ups"? Etc.

Because it's interesting, of the least-penalised sides in 2019, Broncos are 6th, but Dragons are 5th and Cowboys are 1st. So there isn't a 1-1 correlation between being penalised and ladder position / wins. NRL doesn't appear to show penalties received, but surely one component of Broncos favouritism would include penalties both conceded and given?

The point being debated is whether they would instead of regularly “limping into finals” actually miss out altogether without the help of these contentious calls. It’s not like any other team has had more in recent memory (if I’m not mistaken?)

But that's also my point, wouldn't a conscious or even subconscious effort to get Broncos to the finals every year result in them being entrenched, over the course of 24 matches, rather than sneaking in? Or do you suppose that the refs only get involved when the Broncos' title campaign starts to falter and they get nervous that Broncos might miss out?

Broncos make the finals most years, always have. Whether or not they limp there or not, they have a track record of doing what's required to make the finals. They also have a fair record, the past decade or so, of failing to produce in the finals. And frankly that isn't much chop, for a team that the refs are apparently biasing towards, if the Broncos get knocked out after 1 home match, or don't even get a home match, what's the point? Just 1 extra game. Surely the refs want Broncos to make it to the GF to maximise the QLD involvement?

50/50’s that favoured parra ? Don’t think so mate and you’ve beaten a hell of a lot of bush just to not answer the bulk of my question... the burden of proof is actually yours the time.

 

[Tigerboy]

@Tigerboy they don’t get involved whatsoever in golden point. How does the Fergo no try on a non-forward pass support your point at all...

 

[Tigerboy]

Disagree! As @Tiger_Steve says, it is the little 50/50’s that really should be left to players to sort out as they would when completing any other of their one percent plays, that are actually being refereed unfairly

But that supports my point. Refs called back Fergo, ok, but they did not get involved in the late plays that saw Fifita charge up the middle and Isaako slot the FG. Refs totally not involved in the 50/50 about whether or not Fifita may have shuffled behind his own player or not.

Unless you are suggesting that refs intentionally get involved when it suits Broncos and intentionally turn a blind eye when it doesn't suit Broncos. That would have to be intentional, because it takes a conscious mind to weigh up whether or not an outcome suits a particular side, then act on that.

No you have selection bias, plain and simple. You can't just say "3 50/50 decisions favoured Parra, there you go, evidence of referee bias". What about the 50/50s that favoured Parra, did you count those? All the 50/50 calls over the entire season?

So 99.9 percent of NRL supporters have selection bias simply against the broncos... I think you are wrong here, Jirskyr. Absolutely no way am I “cherry-picking” anything and for you to not actively be *able* to rebut my, or @Russell ’s points is proof that your argument is teetering here.

On your point that it would have to be intentional involvement well we (myself and many others) have already shown to you that it is deliberate and subtle, things that you clearly don’t feel impacted Parramatta’s chances in the match yet decisions that have their OWN fans up in arms, an NRL apology and many journo’s apparently - according to you - sensationalising the shocking calls that have allowed Brisbane again this year limp into the finals when in no other conceivable reality without favours from the officials would they have been able to.

It really is that simple mate, you have only proven us (the majority) totally correct by saying in your first paragraph that they didn’t get involved for a clear obstruction again D. Fafita or the block play which was very recently outlawed and scrutinised on stopping players attempting to make a charge down play on field goal efforts l said it at the time in the live game thread that the bunker should have **at least** been taking a look... isn’t that what it’s for ?

How is that NOT selective bias in not even reviewing it by the usually impartial officials of or game... remember Jirskyr, we are ONLY talking about Brisbane Broncos games... not Parra, not Wests, not cowboys or Dragons. Thanks mate!

 

[jirskyr]

50/50’s that favoured parra ? Don’t think so mate and you’ve beaten a hell of a lot of bush just to not answer the bulk of my question… the burden of proof is actually yours the time.

No it isn't. You need to show evidence of a consistent and systematic on-field favouritism for Broncos, because that is your argument. I am proposing the a counter-argument, I am saying there is no bias, which is the default position. I didn't start this thread to talk about the lack of bias towards Broncos!

Refs binned McCullough and that gave Parra a 10-minute advantage, which they couldn't convert. That's 1 50/50. They went upstairs with Kane Evans try, that's another 50/50. Do I really need to go back through the match and pull out all the close decisions that went Parra's way? And your argument is, what, that they got a forward pass wrong and missed some shove in the back during Golden Point.

Broncos deserved to win that match, they were the better side and despite late wobbles, they executed the final minutes well and played essentially a perfect GP opening, for which Parra had no counter. To allow your opponent, from kick off, to drive into field goal range is diabolical - GP management does not come worse than that.

 

[happy_tiger]

I'll say it again , I reckon 8th is the better spot to finish

You give me the choice Manly at Brookvale without Tom Trbjovevic or Parra at Bankwest I know what I would choose every day of the week

 

[Tigerboy]

50/50’s that favoured parra ? Don’t think so mate and you’ve beaten a hell of a lot of bush just to not answer the bulk of my question… the burden of proof is actually yours the time.

No it isn't. You need to show evidence of a consistent and systematic on-field favouritism for Broncos, because that is your argument. I am proposing the a counter-argument, I am saying there is no bias, which is the default position. I didn't start this thread to talk about the lack of bias towards Broncos!

Refs binned McCullough and that gave Parra a 10-minute advantage, which they couldn't convert. That's 1 50/50. They went upstairs with Kane Evans try, that's another 50/50. Do I really need to go back through the match and pull out all the close decisions that went Parra's way? And your argument is, what, that they got a forward pass wrong and missed some shove in the back during Golden Point.

Broncos deserved to win that match, they were the better side and despite late wobbles, they executed the final minutes well and played essentially a perfect GP opening, for which Parra had no counter. To allow your opponent, from kick off, to drive into field goal range is diabolical - GP management does not come worse than that.

Mate, our sides argument has provided many, MANY examples... and I personally had no issue with the McCullough binning and so again, would be up to you prove that it was such a travesty and the wrong call made against Brisbane. The NRL have apologised to us and parramatta for these costly decisions so unfortunately; it is your onus to prove us wrong with actual facts, not just your usual jibberish

 

[jirskyr]

So 99.9 percent of NRL supporters

Fallacy. 99.9% of supporters! Please don't come to a discussion over actual, factual incidents and trends, then throw out a sensationalist generalisation like "99.9% of supporters".

Do me a favour, restructure your argument and come back to me with the evidence, point by point. Show me each match where the decisions favour Broncos and the outcome was influenced by the refs in the favour of Broncos.

I will then HAPPILY go through those matches myself and analyse the 50/50 calls that went for the opposition to the Broncos, and see if we can actually find an imbalance. Better yet, I will let you have every 50/50 example you can provide, without argument, as a point towards your case.

Of course Broncos can limp into the finals without help! You reckon Broncos cannot play finals footy in 2019 without a leg-up from the refs? Crazy. And, "decisions that have their own fans up in arms"... Parra fans? Parra fans are unhappy about the way the match was reffed? What a surprise, what an unbiased sample!

If you can't or won't, if you think 3 maybe decisions are enough to close the case, then I can't discuss further with you, because it becomes like arguing with Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.

 

[Tigerboy]

50/50’s that favoured parra ? Don’t think so mate and you’ve beaten a hell of a lot of bush just to not answer the bulk of my question… the burden of proof is actually yours the time.

No it isn't. You need to show evidence of a consistent and systematic on-field favouritism for Broncos, because that is your argument. I am proposing the a counter-argument, I am saying there is no bias, which is the default position. I didn't start this thread to talk about the lack of bias towards Broncos!

Refs binned McCullough and that gave Parra a 10-minute advantage, which they couldn't convert. That's 1 50/50. They went upstairs with Kane Evans try, that's another 50/50. Do I really need to go back through the match and pull out all the close decisions that went Parra's way? And your argument is, what, that they got a forward pass wrong and missed some shove in the back during Golden Point.

Broncos deserved to win that match, they were the better side and despite late wobbles, they executed the final minutes well and played essentially a perfect GP opening, for which Parra had no counter. To allow your opponent, from kick off, to drive into field goal range is diabolical - GP management does not come worse than that.


Mate, our sides argument has provided many, MANY examples... and I personally had no issue with the McCullough binning and so again, would be up to you prove that it was such a travesty and the wrong call made against Brisbane. The NRL have apologised to us and parramatta for these costly decisions so unfortunately; it is your onus to prove us wrong with actual facts, not just your usual jibberish

“Deserved to win that match” ??? cmonnn you cant be that ignorant dude. Nobody said it was systematic and favouritism as you’ve again put words in my mouth - more that it is subtle and as you’ve even said suits the current business model. It is also clear as day that high profile backers/supporters and the bigwigs in NRL HQ are prepared to “turn a blind eye” to the clear and proven repetition of these horrendous calls... at this point now of quite obvious selective bias towards donkeys . It becomes up to you to show that they have in fact been dudded in recent years by simple decision-making and *actually* missed out on finals altogether. Can you do this?

 

[jirskyr]

and I personally had no issue with the McCullough binning and so again, would be up to you prove that it was such a travesty and the wrong call made against Brisbane.

Well now you are trying to make an argument on your *opinion* of refs decisions, which starts to become a waste of time. Decision X is fine, by you, so you discount it, Decision Y was not fine by you, so you include it. Umm again, selection bias.

So you had no qualms with binning of McCullough therefore it's not a 50/50 call? But hold on, aren't the refs intentionally favouring the Broncos? Shouldn't they have overlooked the McCullough infringement to aid the Broncos' cause? I mean, according to you, they did that with the "Fifita block play", so why call out McCullough but not the late FG?

NRL apologises for bad decisions every week, but that does not remove the fact that there are other opportunities to win or lose matches for every team every week, and it is not evidence of bias towards the Broncos. Or are the Broncos the only side to have been on the favoured end of decisions that were later apologised for?

 

[Tigerboy]

So 99.9 percent of NRL supporters

Fallacy. 99.9% of supporters! Please don't come to a discussion over actual, factual incidents and trends, then throw out a sensationalist generalisation like "99.9% of supporters".

Do me a favour, restructure your argument and come back to me with the evidence, point by point. Show me each match where the decisions favour Broncos and the outcome was influenced by the refs in the favour of Broncos.

I will then HAPPILY go through those matches myself and analyse the 50/50 calls that went for the opposition to the Broncos, and see if we can actually find an imbalance. Better yet, I will let you have every 50/50 example you can provide, without argument, as a point towards your case.

Of course Broncos can limp into the finals without help! You reckon Broncos cannot play finals footy in 2019 without a leg-up from the refs? Crazy. And, "decisions that have their own fans up in arms"... Parra fans? Parra fans are unhappy about the way the match was reffed? What a surprise, what an unbiased sample!

If you can't or won't, if you think 3 maybe decisions are enough to close the case, then I can't discuss further with you, because it becomes like arguing with Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.

To make Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon a part of your decision not to continue this discussion and essentially accusing me of not listening when you are in the minority, is a total cop out. I hope you actually read what others posit to you and are able to make a mental note in order to avoid future mistakes butting in to comment your opinion then claiming others are wrong with absolutely no burden of proof. That is a very weak point !

The examples I have given are completely proven by the official apologies... when will u get that? Lol

Give me some clear clangers/examples against them and no not a sin bin of one player... I’ve clearly proven to you something u won’t accept nor can you effectively make a point against, other than repeating I have no examples?

Yet here we are - me asking you to provide any sort of proof for your sensationalist points... checked Facebook lately? 95% of fans at least are in agreement with the points @Tiger_Steve and I make. You have only denied and not structured a single point that disproves selective bias against the Donkeys.

So the NRL has apologised for 3 wrong 50/50 calls and yet here you are still with only one leg to your argument that is I haven’t proven with clear examples that nrl referees have made decisions *this year* which are the only reason broncos are falling over the line

Can you disprove that in any way whatsoever... keeping in mind that this is not opinion but simple facts, if you’d like to watch the replay of forward pass as I stated... but apparently that example was a fair call and if not still does not prove anything towards an obvious case?

Nah mate, I’d love to hear how there’s one example in the past 2-4 seasons where the Broncs have actually missed out as a result of a poor decision? I will wait, Jirskyr, but good luck

 

[jirskyr]

Yet here we are - me asking you to provide any sort of proof for your sensationalist points… checked Facebook lately? 95% of fans at least are in agreement with the points @Tiger_Steve and I make. You have only denied and not structured a single point that disproves selective bias against the Donkeys.

I literally give up. You checked Facebook recently, egads. 95% of Facebook posters!!!

 

[Tigerboy]

and I personally had no issue with the McCullough binning and so again, would be up to you prove that it was such a travesty and the wrong call made against Brisbane.

Well now you are trying to make an argument on your *opinion* of refs decisions, which starts to become a waste of time. Decision X is fine, by you, so you discount it, Decision Y was not fine by you, so you include it. Umm again, selection bias.

So you had no qualms with binning of McCullough therefore it's not a 50/50 call? But hold on, aren't the refs intentionally favouring the Broncos? Shouldn't they have overlooked the McCullough infringement to aid the Broncos' cause? I mean, according to you, they did that with the "Fifita block play", so why call out McCullough but not the late FG?

NRL apologises for bad decisions every week, but that does not remove the fact that there are other opportunities to win or lose matches for every team every week, and it is not evidence of bias towards the Broncos. Or are the Broncos the only side to have been on the favoured end of decisions that were later apologised for?

You do realise that we are all putting ourselves in Tigers shoes here, not so that there is any kind of upset/malcontent about last year’s GP game against Brisbane but because we feel especially that all teams should be officiated under the exact same set of rules. That is not happening here... I’ve actually intentionally put myself into the basket of believing that Broncs were “good” enough to make the finals this year without help but you really need to take a look back through their 80 minutes, week to week from about round 10 onwards and you will not be able to un-see what we are talking about. You haven’t disproven a thing I’ve said, only that your opinion and possibly ego won’t allow you to disagree; am not asking you to put on Orange, white and black glasses. Simply, stop trying to be the Devil’s advocate and not making any concrete points all the while... it’s a circular a conversation as it gets with you. Lol.

 

[Tigerboy]

Yet here we are - me asking you to provide any sort of proof for your sensationalist points… checked Facebook lately? 95% of fans at least are in agreement with the points @Tiger_Steve and I make. You have only denied and not structured a single point that disproves selective bias against the Donkeys.

I literally give up. You checked Facebook recently, egads. 95% of Facebook posters!!!

Again... a sensationalist post that disregards some real life examples of how you are the one with onus to prove things here... the bias is so obvious it’s bordering on cheating... I am the one saying I can understand some refs make mistakes and should be given a pass.

Egads? Mate, sounds like you absolutely woke up on the wrong side of the bed today

 

[Tigerboy]

@jirskyr But the Broncos getting the favourable timeslot due to good business sense is a form of bias.

Of course, but that's just Brisbane's luck. And it has nothing to do with on-field considerations like reffing. If Tigers pulled 30K per week and played finals every year, they'd put us on Friday nights as well. Heck they used to play us on Friday a lot, even though we weren't a finals side, because of our attack and the unpredictability of our matches.

We can't ignore that NRL are a business and they cannot be 100% equal across all considerations when it comes to running the business. You can't just be giving Friday night timeslots to Titans vs Dragons at Robina, and that's on the Titans and Dragons, not NRL.

The AFL have provided special allowances for the NSW and QLD clubs for years. NRL gave Wests Tigers $8M to merge, that's bias as well, they could have just cut us from the competition.

Please provide examples of their ‘luck’...
Genuinely super curious for your goodpoints

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Yet here we are - me asking you to provide any sort of proof for your sensationalist points… checked Facebook lately? 95% of fans at least are in agreement with the points @Tiger_Steve and I make. You have only denied and not structured a single point that disproves selective bias against the Donkeys.

I literally give up. You checked Facebook recently, egads. 95% of Facebook posters!!!


Again... a sensationalist post that disregards some real life examples of how you are the one with onus to prove things here... the bias is so obvious it’s bordering on cheating... I am the one saying I can understand some refs make mistakes and should be given a pass.

Egads? Mate, sounds like you absolutely woke up on the wrong side of the bed today

If its bias bordering on cheating, why was McCullough binned, and Kane Evans try awarded?

 

[Tigerboy]

Yet here we are - me asking you to provide any sort of proof for your sensationalist points… checked Facebook lately? 95% of fans at least are in agreement with the points @Tiger_Steve and I make. You have only denied and not structured a single point that disproves selective bias against the Donkeys.

I literally give up. You checked Facebook recently, egads. 95% of Facebook posters!!!


Again... a sensationalist post that disregards some real life examples of how you are the one with onus to prove things here... the bias is so obvious it’s bordering on cheating... I am the one saying I can understand some refs make mistakes and should be given a pass.

Egads? Mate, sounds like you absolutely woke up on the wrong side of the bed today

If its bias bordering on cheating, why was McCullough binned, and Kane Evans try awarded?

If McCullough wasn’t binned I would’ve blown up and I don’t support the Eels lol... Evans scores in every angle I’ve seen mate ? Nobody is saying there isn’t issues with referees actual eyes or the bunker’s decision making process... keep that in mind but fair point point, GNR