NRL admits three wrong calls cost Parramatta in loss to Broncos

[Tigerboy]

Disagree! As @Tiger_Steve says, it is the little 50/50’s that really should be left to players to sort out as they would when completing any other of their one percent plays, that are actually being refereed unfairly

But that supports my point. Refs called back Fergo, ok, but they did not get involved in the late plays that saw Fifita charge up the middle and Isaako slot the FG. Refs totally not involved in the 50/50 about whether or not Fifita may have shuffled behind his own player or not.

Unless you are suggesting that refs intentionally get involved when it suits Broncos and intentionally turn a blind eye when it doesn't suit Broncos. That would have to be intentional, because it takes a conscious mind to weigh up whether or not an outcome suits a particular side, then act on that.

No you have selection bias, plain and simple. You can't just say "3 50/50 decisions favoured Parra, there you go, evidence of referee bias". What about the 50/50s that favoured Parra, did you count those? All the 50/50 calls over the entire season?

Because yeah you can go back and cherry-pick certain incidents that could have turned a match, and that is what the journos have done in this article. Why? Because it's sensationalist, because it generates clicks. Are you all forgetting that Broncos had a player sin-binned and Parra wasted those 10 minutes with a man advantage? Or the fact that the refs sent the last two Parra tries upstairs as "try"? Or the fact that Parra couldn't even contain one golden-point set from Broncos, which basically had nothing to do with the refs. They won the toss, kicked off in GP and couldn't stop the Broncs running 80 metres.

No, unless you can show me a systematic favouritism by refs towards Broncos, intentional or otherwise, then you are just displaying selection bias. You find and recall only the small items that support this idea you have about Broncos and ignore everything else that indicates a contrary position.

E.g. do Broncos have systematically lower penalties conceded and penalties gained year on year? Do these penalties come at key moments, e.g. field position or time in match? Do Broncos score points off these "leg ups"? Etc.

Because it's interesting, of the least-penalised sides in 2019, Broncos are 6th, but Dragons are 5th and Cowboys are 1st. So there isn't a 1-1 correlation between being penalised and ladder position / wins. NRL doesn't appear to show penalties received, but surely one component of Broncos favouritism would include penalties both conceded and given?

The point being debated is whether they would instead of regularly “limping into finals” actually miss out altogether without the help of these contentious calls. It’s not like any other team has had more in recent memory (if I’m not mistaken?)

But that's also my point, wouldn't a conscious or even subconscious effort to get Broncos to the finals every year result in them being entrenched, over the course of 24 matches, rather than sneaking in? Or do you suppose that the refs only get involved when the Broncos' title campaign starts to falter and they get nervous that Broncos might miss out?

Broncos make the finals most years, always have. Whether or not they limp there or not, they have a track record of doing what's required to make the finals. They also have a fair record, the past decade or so, of failing to produce in the finals. And frankly that isn't much chop, for a team that the refs are apparently biasing towards, if the Broncos get knocked out after 1 home match, or don't even get a home match, what's the point? Just 1 extra game. Surely the refs want Broncos to make it to the GF to maximise the QLD involvement?

Mate, please show me 3 50/50’s in the same space of time that all legitimately by the looks of things have Broncs players/coaching staff up
In arms. I’d posit that you really can’t .

 

[Russell]

jirskyr you have missed my point totally and absolutely!

I am not saying that Donkeys, Storm, Rorters are getting favorable calls all the time (but it could be the case) - that lower teams on the ladder don't get the 50/50 calls (but this could also be the case). I am not going to go back and look at the last three years worth of games, write down who got what, when etc. etc.

I watch 3,4 or 5 games a week and I trust what I see.

What I see - are the referees making dud decisions, not making a decision but letting the infringement go, the linesman/women not calling offside and even more dud decisions from the bunker.

It is even worse at the ground where you can see the field and how far teams stand off side - TV cameras scan so tightly during the game that when you are watching at home, most of the time you do not see this. It is a total negative for attacking teams to have someone on your bootlaces when you receive the ball.

If you are not going to enforce the rule, why have it? Isn't the reason we have referees to enforce the rules. They must have a feel for the game - yes, none of them do currently.

I don't care who is getting better calls or who has 30k watching them and who doesn't - if the rules are enforced the right teams win the games - that is all I ask.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Yet here we are - me asking you to provide any sort of proof for your sensationalist points… checked Facebook lately? 95% of fans at least are in agreement with the points @Tiger_Steve and I make. You have only denied and not structured a single point that disproves selective bias against the Donkeys.

I literally give up. You checked Facebook recently, egads. 95% of Facebook posters!!!


Again... a sensationalist post that disregards some real life examples of how you are the one with onus to prove things here... the bias is so obvious it’s bordering on cheating... I am the one saying I can understand some refs make mistakes and should be given a pass.

Egads? Mate, sounds like you absolutely woke up on the wrong side of the bed today

If its bias bordering on cheating, why was McCullough binned, and Kane Evans try awarded?


If McCullough wasn’t binned I would’ve blown up and I don’t support the Eels lol... Evans scores in every angle I’ve seen mate ? Nobody is saying there isn’t issues with referees actual eyes or the bunker’s decision making process... keep that in mind but fair point point, GNR

Evans try could have been disallowed before it got taken to the bunker. To the naked eye, it wasn't obvious.

 

[Tigerboy]

Yet here we are - me asking you to provide any sort of proof for your sensationalist points… checked Facebook lately? 95% of fans at least are in agreement with the points @Tiger_Steve and I make. You have only denied and not structured a single point that disproves selective bias against the Donkeys.

I literally give up. You checked Facebook recently, egads. 95% of Facebook posters!!!


Again... a sensationalist post that disregards some real life examples of how you are the one with onus to prove things here... the bias is so obvious it’s bordering on cheating... I am the one saying I can understand some refs make mistakes and should be given a pass.

Egads? Mate, sounds like you absolutely woke up on the wrong side of the bed today

If its bias bordering on cheating, why was McCullough binned, and Kane Evans try awarded?


If McCullough wasn’t binned I would’ve blown up and I don’t support the Eels lol... Evans scores in every angle I’ve seen mate ? Nobody is saying there isn’t issues with referees actual eyes or the bunker’s decision making process... keep that in mind but fair point point, GNR

Evans try could have been disallowed before it got taken to the bunker. To the naked eye, it wasn't obvious.

Again. Fair point, although not necessarily proving anything that Jir and I were basically lamenting over... most people do not feel that it was a dubious call, so hence me not bringing up in my posts - I see what you mean but that is exactly what the bunker’s for.

The obstruction 50/50 for Fifita I never even commented on but based on the exact same call actually going against M. Moses (despite my genuine dislike for the guy!) it should be stated that there is obvious inconsistency... then to call a perfectly good pass back on a try like that... which would’ve sent the Eels into the lead, is almost hard to pass off as unintentional - after combining and assessing most previous decisions and the standpoint of the majority of the forum.

It can’t continue otherwise the NRL will die; in my opinion. If we make the 8 this year then I won’t care but the concerns raised are most definitely valid, right?

 

[Regan]

Broncos get free leg up of at least 4 competition points every season.

They do but who really cares when it's slimy Parramatta

Than add weasel crybaby moses to the team and it makes it even better

I don't like donkeys but any team playing Parramatta has my support

Because the Broncos would be on 23 points today and the Tigers would be in the 8 and could lose to the sharks and could still finish in the 8

 

[jirskyr]

Mate, please show me 3 50/50’s in the same space of time that all legitimately by the looks of things have Broncs players/coaching staff up

OK here we go, just because of your insistent and persistent obstinance.


**Rd 23 Rabbits 22 Broncos 20**
* 16th min penalty to Rabbits for holding down too long in PTB, Rabbits kick goal (they win by 2)
* 24th min Jimmy Jet takes a hit up, steps to side and plays ball off mark, causes Haas to try and square up at marker, Cook exploits the move and makes a line break which leads directly to a Rabbits try
* 44th minute Katoni Staggs takes intercept and runs 50m down the touchline. Campbell Graham holds down excessively in ruck and Adam Reynolds clearly flops, refs call play on, Broncos go over sideline trying to spread next tackle against retreating Souths line.
* 58th minute Souths spill the ball, comes off Broncos toe, Jimmy Jet appears to knock on in the scramble, picks the ball up and runs 80m, refs call play on. Rabbits get a penalty next tackle and kick for 2. 50/50 whether or not Jet touched it but it isn't reviewed. Next two consecutive sets Rabbits score tries.
* 77th min Broncos make a break through Isaako, 5th tackle Cody Walker clearly offside, not called, Walker ends up making the decisive tackle that halts the Broncos play.
* 78th min Broncos affect 1-1 strip, commentators call "Souths may have been offside" but not called by refs and no further replay "there's pressure on the refs as well" says Vossy.
* 79th minute Adam Reynolds is not square at marker but follows the ball and pressures Broncos' final play, which ends up 1m short of line.
* 79th minute Cody Walker offside again, not called.

Souths win 22-20. You would think, given the late Broncos ball and a number of 50/50 calls, refs had ample opportunity to favour Broncos to get the result. Rd 23 has very clear and real implications for Broncos' finals hopes.


**Rd 17 Broncos 18 Warriors 18**

* 75th minute 50/50 1-1 strip called against Broncos, gives Warriors penalty which brings them level
* 79th minute, Segeyaro goes from DH, Warriors markers not square, called play on, markers affect tackle and pass goes loose
* 82nd minute, Warriors offside tackle 5 and Isaac Luke goes early from marker, Segeyaro decides not to pass, shoots himself and misses
* 83rd minute Adam Blair stands blocker on Warriors FG attempt, though Warriors miss, Blair illegally steps into path of Ofahengaue
* 84th minute Warriors offside from PTB, not called, Milford misses FG
* 88th minute Bunty Afoa stands illegal block and impacts Flegler's charge on Nikorima, which gives N a clear shot though he pulls it wide.

**Rd 5 Tigers 22 Broncos 16**
*76th min Farah offside, causes Milford to run rather than FG and Broncos spill ball

**Rd 3 Dragons 25 Broncos 24**
* 10th min TPJ penalised for not standing square on PTB, with Dragons playing holding onto him; St George score from ensuing set
* 78th min Dragons offside from marker, affect Isaako's FG attempt which misses

Now the stupidity of all of this, which is part of my point, is that you can go back to any close match and very easily find infringements against whichever team you choose, that are not called by refs. That is part of the Parra argument, that the refs didn't penalise XYZ incidents. But I can find a dozen in any match, given time to review the tape.

Furthermore, of matches decided by 6 points or less in 2019, Broncos are 5W 4L and 1 draw. That is a pretty regular outcome for teams in close contests, just 1 result either side of 50%. If the refs were putting Broncos across the line, wouldn't they have greater influence in the Broncos close matches and get them home more consistently?

 

[Tigerboy]

Broncos get free leg up of at least 4 competition points every season.

They do but who really cares when it's slimy Parramatta

Than add weasel crybaby moses to the team and it makes it even better

I don't like donkeys but any team playing Parramatta has my support



Because the Broncos would be on 23 points today and the Tigers would be in the 8 and could lose to the sharks and could still finish in the 8

Pretty legitimate point if you ask me... but idk, apparently I’m Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon

 

[Tigerboy]

Mate, please show me 3 50/50’s in the same space of time that all legitimately by the looks of things have Broncs players/coaching staff up

OK here we go, just because of your insistent and persistent obstinance.


**Rd 23 Rabbits 22 Broncos 20**
* 16th min penalty to Rabbits for holding down too long in PTB, Rabbits kick goal (they win by 2)
* 24th min Jimmy Jet takes a hit up, steps to side and plays ball off mark, causes Haas to try and square up at marker, Cook exploits the move and makes a line break which leads directly to a Rabbits try
* 44th minute Katoni Staggs takes intercept and runs 50m down the touchline. Campbell Graham holds down excessively in ruck and Adam Reynolds clearly flops, refs call play on, Broncos go over sideline trying to spread next tackle against retreating Souths line.
* 58th minute Souths spill the ball, comes off Broncos toe, Jimmy Jet appears to knock on in the scramble, picks the ball up and runs 80m, refs call play on. Rabbits get a penalty next tackle and kick for 2. 50/50 whether or not Jet touched it but it isn't reviewed. Next two consecutive sets Rabbits score tries.
* 77th min Broncos make a break through Isaako, 5th tackle Cody Walker clearly offside, not called, Walker ends up making the decisive tackle that halts the Broncos play.
* 78th min Broncos affect 1-1 strip, commentators call "Souths may have been offside" but not called by refs and no further replay "there's pressure on the refs as well" says Vossy.
* 79th minute Adam Reynolds is not square at marker but follows the ball and pressures Broncos' final play, which ends up 1m short of line.
* 79th minute Cody Walker offside again, not called.

Souths win 22-20. You would think, given the late Broncos ball and a number of 50/50 calls, refs had ample opportunity to favour Broncos to get the result. Rd 23 has very clear and real implications for Broncos' finals hopes.


**Rd 17 Broncos 18 Warriors 18**

* 75th minute 50/50 1-1 strip called against Broncos, gives Warriors penalty which brings them level
* 79th minute, Segeyaro goes from DH, Warriors markers not square, called play on, markers affect tackle and pass goes loose
* 82nd minute, Warriors offside tackle 5 and Isaac Luke goes early from marker, Segeyaro decides not to pass, shoots himself and misses
* 83rd minute Adam Blair stands blocker on Warriors FG attempt, though Warriors miss, Blair illegally steps into path of Ofahengaue
* 84th minute Warriors offside from PTB, not called, Milford misses FG
* 88th minute Bunty Afoa stands illegal block and impacts Flegler's charge on Nikorima, which gives N a clear shot though he pulls it wide.

**Rd 5 Tigers 22 Broncos 16**
*76th min Farah offside, causes Milford to run rather than FG and Broncos spill ball

**Rd 3 Dragons 25 Broncos 24**
* 10th min TPJ penalised for not standing square on PTB, with Dragons playing holding onto him; St George score from ensuing set
* 78th min Dragons offside from marker, affect Isaako's FG attempt which misses

Now the stupidity of all of this, which is part of my point, is that you can go back to any close match and very easily find infringements against whichever team you choose, that are not called by refs. That is part of the Parra argument, that the refs didn't penalise XYZ incidents. But I can find a dozen in any match, given time to review the tape.

Furthermore, of matches decided by 6 points or less in 2019, Broncos are 5W 4L and 1 draw. That is a pretty regular outcome for teams in close contests, just 1 result either side of 50%. If the refs were putting Broncos across the line, wouldn't they have greater influence in the Broncos close matches and get them home more consistently?

TL:dr you didn’t answer any of my questions again, only provided some very briefly skimmed over and weak points. Keep in mind a direct quote of you saying “I literally give up” is all you needed to leave it as. Again, you must fully disprove the majority if you came into this thread intending to defend the obvious/underhanded efforts by officials over the years to see a QLD team in the top 8 @ years end. You are quite clearly off-base here

Seriously, quoting up a Rabbitohs game which I personally watched and was fair and square all the way through. The Tigers game??? Mate I was at the venue live and you are having a bloody laugh attempting to use that example. LOL. An offside call you say? I’d wager you cannot prove that at all, whereas the Fergo pass does indeed go backwards and warranted a specific apology from Graham Annesley. Specifically, that warriors game in fact was one of the most horrendous 80 minutes refereeing most of us fans seen in years - allows them to still be in the running single-handedly at this late stage. You have basically totally proven my point... no ref involvement for the 50/50’s (as you’ve quoted) and then the players would be able to prove to you that Donkeys are not a top 8 side...

Please stop calling other people names or potentially negative character connotations like obstinacy... just because you have lost this argument ! Carn the Wests Tigers!!

 

[jirskyr]

If you are not going to enforce the rule, why have it? Isn’t the reason we have referees to enforce the rules. They must have a feel for the game - yes, none of them do currently.

Because if you enforce every rule with aggression, it's a bloodbath of referee involvement and becomes no different to rugby. Didn't you watch rugby league in 2018 and the push back on how aggressively the referees policed all rules, to the detriment of the flow of the game?

It's not a game played by robots, you can't policed 100% of lost balls, 100% of strips, 100% of offsides, 100% of forward passes correctly every time, nor should you be policing 100% of infringements at every play, because it's non-stop.

 

[old_man_tiger]

@jirskyr is not as simple as reading stats mate.

For example in the first half, gutherson was pushed in the back when shielding the ball over the dead ball line for a 7 tackle set.

I have never seen anyone even mention one of these little nudges, and when he was partway to the 20 for the quick tap the refs blew a penalty for the push in the back.

That goes down as penalty Parra but in my opinion benefits the Broncos by arresting momentum.

I don't watch their games much so I don't have other examples. It might be selection bias, equally it might be a halo effect causing refs to get it wrong. I think that is more likely than a conspiracy theory but the effect is the same.

 

[jirskyr]

only provided some very briefly skimmed over and weak points.

Mate not brief and not skimmed over, I went back and looked at tapes. You asked me to provide 3 50/50 calls against Broncos, I did that so easily in the Souths and Warriors games, didn't even have to limit it to 3 calls, I could find 5 or 6 easy.

50/50 calls, do you even know what a 50/50 call is? Your opinion doesn't make something in or not in the 50/50 basket. Just because you "thought it was cool".

Of course I can prove every point I listed - if you know anything about me in this forum you know that I don't post stuff I can't back up, and back up readily.

But I don't really want to discuss with you any more, because I made a genuine attempt to provide examples, because you pleaded me to, and I bothered to take the time, and you reckon you can refute them with your memory of the game live. Huh, well, that's all we need then, your own memory.

PS obstinate is just a word dude, I would call you a moron, but I can't.

 

[Tigerboy]

If you are not going to enforce the rule, why have it? Isn’t the reason we have referees to enforce the rules. They must have a feel for the game - yes, none of them do currently.

Because if you enforce every rule with aggression, it's a bloodbath of referee involvement and becomes no different to rugby. Didn't you watch rugby league in 2018 and the push back on how aggressively the referees policed all rules, to the detriment of the flow of the game?

It's not a game played by robots, you can't policed 100% of lost balls, 100% of strips, 100% of offsides, 100% of forward passes correctly every time, nor should you be policing 100% of infringements at every play, because it's non-stop.

Hahahahaha wait so now you’re saying officials cannot be expected to enforce the rules, especially in tight or very costly games?

Well, you must be Kim Jong un, because that’s a stupid troll-like post and doesn’t garner you any respect whatsoever here - please come back to @Russell and I when you can clearly disprove what it is that we are saying. At the moment, you’ve basically not agreed and provided your own opinions forth in place of facts then asked us to prove you wrong?

 

[jirskyr]

Hahahahaha wait so now you’re saying officials cannot be expected to enforce the rules, especially in tight or very costly games?

No I said they can't call every infringement every time. That's ludicrous. Real life gets in the way.

 

[jirskyr]

I don’t watch their games much so I don’t have other examples

Well you have a problem there.

 

[Tigerboy]

only provided some very briefly skimmed over and weak points.

Mate not brief and not skimmed over, I went back and looked at tapes. You asked me to provide 3 50/50 calls against Broncos, I did that so easily in the Souths and Warriors games, didn't even have to limit it to 3 calls, I could find 5 or 6 easy.

50/50 calls, do you even know what a 50/50 call is? Your opinion doesn't make something in or not in the 50/50 basket. Just because you "thought it was cool".

Of course I can prove every point I listed - if you know anything about me in this forum you know that I don't post stuff I can't back up, and back up readily.

But I don't really want to discuss with you any more, because I made a genuine attempt to provide examples, because you pleaded me to, and I bothered to take the time, and you reckon you can refute them with your memory of the game live. Huh, well, that's all we need then, your own memory.

PS obstinate is just a word dude, I would call you a moron, but I can't.

In this case you r placing a negative connotation on it. I know obstinate people and clearly have more command of the English language... maybe I am being too determined and resilient for you, maybe you just have way too much experience being so dogged and obstinate yourself.

You are wrong so far, In the scheme of this debate and proven yourself fair dinkum stupid making a final point attempting to call me a moron. Seriously, you must be challenged

 

[Tigerboy]

Hahahahaha wait so now you’re saying officials cannot be expected to enforce the rules, especially in tight or very costly games?

No I said they can't call every infringement every time. That's ludicrous. Real life gets in the way.

I see your point, and am actually understanding of what you’re saying but you’ve only proven there’s no doubt either in refs turning a blind eye when it suits the Broncos, or just by getting involved whenever it doesn’t suit the other team, and the onus’ on you to prove it isn’t happening, and you haven’t.

I again admit that I’m refusing to accept your ‘point of view’ but that I’m also not saying the broncos cheat year in, year out and pay off the officials. Simply selective bias as you said and an outcome that proves itself even if you can actually find a couple of outlying statistics that you think disproves many, many years of proven blunders and not only assistance when they’ve needed it, but non-decisions when they should go in other teams’ favour... you can’t actually watch a replay and in hindsight call out the masses because of one instant where Brisbane (early in a game, iirc [because I watched live unlike you]) seemed to have a bit of adversity to go up against. They weren’t bludger calls that required official apologies from the head honcho’s.

The only way Brisbane are still in this is the drawn warriors game, which definitely by about 95% of estimates contained very dodgy/‘unintentional’ yet concerted efforts to keep the Broncos alive. I’ve never said that the referees dropped them into the top 8

 

[hobbo1]

Hahahahaha wait so now you’re saying officials cannot be expected to enforce the rules, especially in tight or very costly games?

No I said they can't call every infringement every time. That's ludicrous. Real life gets in the way.


I see your point, and am actually understanding of what you’re saying but you’ve only proven there’s no doubt either in refs turning a blind eye when it suits the Broncos, or just by getting involved whenever it doesn’t suit the other team, and the onus’ on you to prove it isn’t happening, and you haven’t.

I again admit that I’m refusing to accept your ‘point of view’ but that I’m also not saying the broncos cheat year in, year out and pay off the officials. Simply selective bias as you said and an outcome that proves itself even if you can actually find a couple of outlying statistics that you think disproves many, many years of proven blunders and not only assistance when they’ve needed it, but non-decisions when they should go in other teams’ favour... you can’t actually watch a replay and in hindsight call out the masses because of one instant where Brisbane (early in a game, iirc [because I watched live unlike you]) seemed to have a bit of adversity to go up against. They weren’t bludger calls that required official apologies from the head honcho’s.

The only way Brisbane are still in this is the drawn warriors game, which definitely by about 95% of estimates contained very dodgy/‘unintentional’ yet concerted efforts to keep the Broncos alive. I’ve never said that the referees dropped them into the top 8

Alfie Langer says hi ?

Wave to Alfie ?

 

[Tigerboy]

only provided some very briefly skimmed over and weak points.

Mate not brief and not skimmed over, I went back and looked at tapes. You asked me to provide 3 50/50 calls against Broncos, I did that so easily in the Souths and Warriors games, didn't even have to limit it to 3 calls, I could find 5 or 6 easy.

50/50 calls, do you even know what a 50/50 call is? Your opinion doesn't make something in or not in the 50/50 basket. Just because you "thought it was cool".

Of course I can prove every point I listed - if you know anything about me in this forum you know that I don't post stuff I can't back up, and back up readily.

But I don't really want to discuss with you any more, because I made a genuine attempt to provide examples, because you pleaded me to, and I bothered to take the time, and you reckon you can refute them with your memory of the game live. Huh, well, that's all we need then, your own memory.

PS obstinate is just a word dude, I would call you a moron, but I can't.

So what if it is just a word, what word isn’t ? (Please provide examples)

It’s an adjective that has relevance to being “unreasonably determined” and obviously this places a connotation on the persons character, especially as *you* initially disagreed with me, and that I’ve had a lot of time to listen to points you’ve made as well as rationally rebuke them.

Seems Like you’ve thrown away any semblance of being correct mate.. because it’s simply not possible that every single person on this side of the fence is living their lives in that way !

Maybe, as I said, you’ve run out of dribble to throw back into the fire about this post and have resorted to personal comments. Idk. Only know you haven’t proven your opinion is factual

 

[Tigerboy]

Hahahahaha wait so now you’re saying officials cannot be expected to enforce the rules, especially in tight or very costly games?

No I said they can't call every infringement every time. That's ludicrous. Real life gets in the way.


I see your point, and am actually understanding of what you’re saying but you’ve only proven there’s no doubt either in refs turning a blind eye when it suits the Broncos, or just by getting involved whenever it doesn’t suit the other team, and the onus’ on you to prove it isn’t happening, and you haven’t.

I again admit that I’m refusing to accept your ‘point of view’ but that I’m also not saying the broncos cheat year in, year out and pay off the officials. Simply selective bias as you said and an outcome that proves itself even if you can actually find a couple of outlying statistics that you think disproves many, many years of proven blunders and not only assistance when they’ve needed it, but non-decisions when they should go in other teams’ favour... you can’t actually watch a replay and in hindsight call out the masses because of one instant where Brisbane (early in a game, iirc [because I watched live unlike you]) seemed to have a bit of adversity to go up against. They weren’t bludger calls that required official apologies from the head honcho’s.

The only way Brisbane are still in this is the drawn warriors game, which definitely by about 95% of estimates contained very dodgy/‘unintentional’ yet concerted efforts to keep the Broncos alive. I’ve never said that the referees dropped them into the top 8


Alfie Langer says hi ?

Wave to Alfie ?

Heh Alf and lockie , NRL equivalent of the smurfs ?

 

[Russell]

No I said they can’t call every infringement every time. That’s ludicrous. Real life gets in the way.

Well why have the rules?

Your saying you can't (to the Refs best ability) call all the offside infringements in a game.

Why can't you? Because they don't want to, they are biased towards one team, because they genuinely missed one (they do have a linesman/woman standing at the 10 metre mark to advise), due to incompetence or as you say - real life gets in the way (whatever that means).

As I said earlier - why have rules if you don't enforce them.

Answer: Cause real life gets in the way.

Sorry not good enough.