NRL Off Season Scandals

[twentyforty]

I hope that someone is watching out for him because with the severity of the charges it could very well be enough to push him over the edge.

Seriously who cares if it pushes him over the edge? If he is guilty he is the scummiest of the scum.

You need to take my whole post in context rather than just cherry pick the parts that suit you.

If he is guilty then I agree that he is scum, but he is entitled to his time in court which will hopefully determine whether he is guilty or innocent.

If police have enough evidence to charge then does that make a person already half guilty?

 

[paul wright]

I hope that someone is watching out for him because with the severity of the charges it could very well be enough to push him over the edge.

Seriously who cares if it pushes him over the edge? If he is guilty he is the scummiest of the scum.

You need to take my whole post in context rather than just cherry pick the parts that suit you.

If he is guilty then I agree that he is scum, but he is entitled to his time in court which will hopefully determine whether he is guilty or innocent.

If police have enough evidence to charge then does that make a person already half guilty?

In many peoples eyes it makes then guilty immediately.He will have his time in court to defend the charges.It is an appalling crime he has been charged with and i would hate to be one of the jurors

 

[innsaneink]

I hope that someone is watching out for him because with the severity of the charges it could very well be enough to push him over the edge.

Seriously who cares if it pushes him over the edge? If he is guilty he is the scummiest of the scum.

You need to take my whole post in context rather than just cherry pick the parts that suit you.

If he is guilty then I agree that he is scum, but he is entitled to his time in court which will hopefully determine whether he is guilty or innocent.

If police have enough evidence to charge then does that make a person already half guilty?

They get it wrong occasionally as Brett Stewart will tell you

 

[bathursttiger1]

Our daughter has just had a baby and she asked us to find her baby photos to compare her to bub.
We found one photo in her birthday suit and she asked me to send it to her on my phone, I say no way was I going to send a nude photo of a baby on my phone.
How things have changed, and for the better.

 

[AL The Tiger]

I was struggling to understand what the charges exactly were, but from reading the recent DT article it says that "Brett Finch vows to fight charges of commenting on child abuse in an online chat room". Guess that makes it pretty clear then

 

[rustycage]

What would you give to go back to the good old days of uber drivers getting beaten, drug fuelled dog humping and urinating in your mouth.

The offseason scandal thread has taken a dark , dark turn.

Ah yes. Along with drink driving, beating or glassing your missus, or even biting your woman on the love curtains. Seems like only yesterday. But here we are, moving on through another period of horrible headlines which bring the game down to yet another horrendous low point. Thankfully, Brett never played for our club. Buzz and co. would be all over us again if he had. I don't think we'll here Ex rooster or Ex storm player at the top of the story though.

 

[TillLindemann]

I hope that someone is watching out for him because with the severity of the charges it could very well be enough to push him over the edge.

Seriously who cares if it pushes him over the edge? If he is guilty he is the scummiest of the scum.

You need to take my whole post in context rather than just cherry pick the parts that suit you.

If he is guilty then I agree that he is scum, but he is entitled to his time in court which will hopefully determine whether he is guilty or innocent.

If police have enough evidence to charge then does that make a person already half guilty?

They get it wrong occasionally as Brett Stewart will tell you

They do get it wrong, and of course not all charges result in a guilty conviction. But as I said earlier I think a charge like this is more likely to stick, than the kinds of he said / she said cases we're more used to with footy players, where accusations can sometimes be made for spurious reasons by jaded ex's and the like.

But in cases like this one, metadata doesn't lie, metadata doesn't hold grudges, metadata isn't trying to get famous.

 

[TigerVinnie]

I hope that someone is watching out for him because with the severity of the charges it could very well be enough to push him over the edge.

Seriously who cares if it pushes him over the edge? If he is guilty he is the scummiest of the scum.

You need to take my whole post in context rather than just cherry pick the parts that suit you.

If he is guilty then I agree that he is scum, but he is entitled to his time in court which will hopefully determine whether he is guilty or innocent.

If police have enough evidence to charge then does that make a person already half guilty?

So speaking as someone with a relative who works in the NSW Child Exploitation Internet Unit I have a little bit of background on how these operations go down.

Generally for someone to be arrested he has had to show intent/possession or discussions around it. The police would have to have transcripts or solid evidence of one of the above (usually through infiltration the group chats) for him to physically be arrested and his possessions ceased. So to a certain extent you are correct in saying there is a probably a very good chance he's already guilty of something. Others have mentioned cops can get this stuff wrong which is true, but the fact that they arrested 8 others on one day means it was most likely a lengthy undercover stint and they would have their evidence to back it up (they couldn't afford 8 mistaken arrests).

Based on what I have read Finches best case scenario is he was apart of group chats or speaking to an undercover agent where sharing was involved - even if he has physically never shared a single image in the group he has still shown intent by being part of the group. In the courts eyes he is already guilty to a certain degree but usually this does not warrant jail time (hence being released on bail). He will have tough sex offender restrictions emplaced on him.

His lawyer would be pushing for either accidental inclusion in the group or going down the mental health/fantasy route - again the fact that 8 people were arrested probably means this has been a lengthy process and doubt this works.

If however he has participated in sharing/discussions this can warrant usually a minimum of 6 months and up to 2 years in prison. They would now be going through all his tech possessions attempting to prove this and get the full picture. Of course anything more serious than that he gets much longer.

Always innocent until proven guilty and I hope he get a fair trial if this was a misunderstanding, but for him to be arrested doesnt look good on his behalf. Feel for his wife and kids the most.

 

[innsaneink]

I was struggling to understand what the charges exactly were, but from reading the recent DT article it says that "Brett Finch vows to fight charges of commenting on child abuse in an online chat room". Guess that makes it pretty clear then

This thread could be classed as that

Forum/chat rm

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

What would you give to go back to the good old days of uber drivers getting beaten, drug fuelled dog humping and urinating in your mouth.

The offseason scandal thread has taken a dark , dark turn.

Ah yes. Along with drink driving, beating or glassing your missus, or even biting your woman on the love curtains. Seems like only yesterday. But here we are, moving on through another period of horrible headlines which bring the game down to yet another horrendous low point. Thankfully, Brett never played for our club. Buzz and co. would be all over us again if he had. I don't think we'll here Ex rooster or Ex storm player at the top of the story though.

I think your comment brings the game, and its fans and this fourm, down to yet another level. "...biting your woman on the love curtains". Who or what are you referring to here?

That was Jarryd Hayne.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

What would you give to go back to the good old days of uber drivers getting beaten, drug fuelled dog humping and urinating in your mouth.

The offseason scandal thread has taken a dark , dark turn.

Ah yes. Along with drink driving, beating or glassing your missus, or even biting your woman on the love curtains. Seems like only yesterday. But here we are, moving on through another period of horrible headlines which bring the game down to yet another horrendous low point. Thankfully, Brett never played for our club. Buzz and co. would be all over us again if he had. I don't think we'll here Ex rooster or Ex storm player at the top of the story though.

I think your comment brings the game, and its fans and this fourm, down to yet another level. "...biting your woman on the love curtains". Who or what are you referring to here?

That was Jarryd Hayne.

and, what's your point?

You asked who or what they were referring to. They are referring to when Jarryd Hayne bit the labia of a young women. He’s in jail for it.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

What would you give to go back to the good old days of uber drivers getting beaten, drug fuelled dog humping and urinating in your mouth.

The offseason scandal thread has taken a dark , dark turn.

Ah yes. Along with drink driving, beating or glassing your missus, or even biting your woman on the love curtains. Seems like only yesterday. But here we are, moving on through another period of horrible headlines which bring the game down to yet another horrendous low point. Thankfully, Brett never played for our club. Buzz and co. would be all over us again if he had. I don't think we'll here Ex rooster or Ex storm player at the top of the story though.

I think your comment brings the game, and its fans and this fourm, down to yet another level. "...biting your woman on the love curtains". Who or what are you referring to here?

That was Jarryd Hayne.

and, what's your point?

You asked who or what they were referring to. They are referring to when Jarryd Hayne bit the labia of a young women. He’s in jail for it.

Fair enough. I get the reference now. But still, ...... is it ok??

I think they were trying to be polite about it. It’s a bit of an awkward thing to reference.

 

[innsaneink]

I hope that someone is watching out for him because with the severity of the charges it could very well be enough to push him over the edge.

Seriously who cares if it pushes him over the edge? If he is guilty he is the scummiest of the scum.

You need to take my whole post in context rather than just cherry pick the parts that suit you.

If he is guilty then I agree that he is scum, but he is entitled to his time in court which will hopefully determine whether he is guilty or innocent.

If police have enough evidence to charge then does that make a person already half guilty?

They get it wrong occasionally as Brett Stewart will tell you

That's fine if you believe "they got it wrong" in the Brett Stewart case.

Ok... I'll bite

His sexual assault charges were
dismissed by a jury.
Good enough for me

 

[KingRobbie]

What would you give to go back to the good old days of uber drivers getting beaten, drug fuelled dog humping and urinating in your mouth.

The offseason scandal thread has taken a dark , dark turn.

Ah yes. Along with drink driving, beating or glassing your missus, or even biting your woman on the love curtains. Seems like only yesterday. But here we are, moving on through another period of horrible headlines which bring the game down to yet another horrendous low point. Thankfully, Brett never played for our club. Buzz and co. would be all over us again if he had. I don't think we'll here Ex rooster or Ex storm player at the top of the story though.

I think your comment brings the game, and its fans and this fourm, down to yet another level. "...biting your woman on the love curtains". Who or what are you referring to here?

That was Jarryd Hayne.

and, what's your point?

You asked who or what they were referring to. They are referring to when Jarryd Hayne bit the labia of a young women. He’s in jail for it.

Fair enough. I get the reference now. But still, ...... is it ok??

I think they were trying to be polite about it. It’s a bit of an awkward thing to reference.

Again, fair enough. But that is referring to a case where Hayne was found guilty after a judicial process (I think for more than biting the love curtains, but I may be wrong). There is no judicial outcome on the Finch allegations yet. I just think we need to be careful.

The judicial outcome of the Brett Stewart case was that he was found not guilty on all charges and you weren’t careful around that?