NRL Rd 15 *Spoilers

@mike said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394343) said:
That’s because we kept giving possession back to them.

I'm not sure I agree we 'kept' giving it back to them in the first 15 minutes; we barely had it to give back. I believe we had a total of 3 tackles in possession when they reached 30 pts. Even Bellamy said as much re the flow of the game.

It very much shows how important momentum is.

I know it will seem like a distant memory but it wasn't that long ago (2019 I think) where we put 24 points on Penrith in the first 18 minutes of a game when everything just fell into place.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394362) said:
@mike said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394343) said:
That’s because we kept giving possession back to them.

I'm not sure I agree we 'kept' giving it back to them in the first 15 minutes; we barely had it to give back. I believe we had a total of 3 tackles in possession when they reached 30 pts. Even Bellamy said as much re the flow of the game.

It very much shows how important momentum is.

I know it will seem like a distant memory but it wasn't that long ago (2019 I think) where we put 24 points on Penrith in the first 18 minutes of a game when everything just fell into place.


We didn't have it because every time the ball came to us, we gave it back through errors.
 
our 40 nil scoreline looks pedestrian - at least we were never in the game - those clowns from the glitz strip had it in the bag.
 
@diedpretty said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394373) said:
our 40 nil scoreline looks pedestrian - at least we were never in the game - those clowns from the glitz strip had it in the bag.

I was having the exact same thought. If there’s a worse feeling, surely it’s gotta be that you had the game in the bag and then blew it. Lol
 
@supercoach said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394330) said:
Peter V football is all about momentum and possession. The massive imbalance is causing the blowouts. I think we need to have the team that scores kicks off in order to spread the possession flow. Our game was over after having no ball for the first 20 minutes and today both the Dogs and the Coast had no ball for the second half.


Yep and throw in helmets to prevent head knocks and there are so many forward passes now we may as well allow them to be part of the game - and lets expand this new game to the US where they will have more understanding of the rules than any of us have.
 
@mike said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394368) said:
We didn’t have it because every time the ball came to us, we gave it back through errors.

Sorry but that's not correct. We were 12-0 down and 8 minutes into the games before we actually had a possession. We had a single hit up then Ken M hit it up and was pinged for a play the ball error.

They scored 3 more tries to get to 30-0 before we had another possession. So in total, we had two tackles in possession at 30-0.

It might have seemed like we gave it back, but we never had it to start with.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394396) said:
@mike said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394368) said:
We didn’t have it because every time the ball came to us, we gave it back through errors.

Sorry but that's not correct. We were 12-0 down and 8 minutes into the games before we actually had a possession. We had a single hit up then Ken M hit it up and was pinged for a play the ball error.

They scored 3 more tries to get to 30-0 before we had another possession. So in total, we had two tackles in possession at 30-0.

It might have seemed like we gave it back, but we never had it to start with.

Surely conceding tries counts as errors
 
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394005) said:
If anyone needs proof Madge needs punting, Canterbury are leading Parra 10-6 at halftime, the same team who beat us 40-6 last week.
The dogs have a far worse roster than us, but have a coach who is now getting something out of them after 14 rounds, Madge has had 3 years


that didn't age well
 
@voice_of_reason said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394396) said:
@mike said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394368) said:
We didn’t have it because every time the ball came to us, we gave it back through errors.

Sorry but that's not correct. We were 12-0 down and 8 minutes into the games before we actually had a possession. We had a single hit up then Ken M hit it up and was pinged for a play the ball error.

They scored 3 more tries to get to 30-0 before we had another possession. So in total, we had two tackles in possession at 30-0.

It might have seemed like we gave it back, but we never had it to start with.

Yep that's right. The first 12 points. You just confirmed what I was saying. Handed the ball back to them with stupid mistakes.
 
@jadtiger said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394333) said:
Football ***is turning*** into complete rubbish under the new rules.Manly have scored 50 points in less than a half

Its not turning - it already is rubbish. I'm 68 and played in second div in sydney and firsts in a few country towns. Cracking down on head highs is a good thing and i applaud it but it has to be done with common sense on the refs part. An attacking player can't lead with their elbow or they will be penalised but yesterday a defender slipped and copped the elbow of the attacking player - nothing happened - play on. Yet when an attacking player slips into a defender its a penalty and a possible sin bin. And 6 agains - what rubbish - what was wrong with penalising a player for ruck infringements and using the bin for repeated offences. Vlandys has single handedly destroyed what was once a great game.
 
@gallagher said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394398) said:
Surely conceding tries counts as errors

You could argue that but probably not in the normal classification of errors. Statistically we had 3 more errors that Storm and only 1 in the first 20 minutes.

The Storm are the best drilled team in the league - they had momentum and we - like most other teams - couldn't arrest it.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394417) said:
@gallagher said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394398) said:
Surely conceding tries counts as errors

You could argue that but probably not in the normal classification of errors. Statistically we had 3 more errors that Storm and only 1 in the first 20 minutes.

The Storm are the best drilled team in the league - they had momentum and we - like most other teams - couldn't arrest it.

Fair enough. Didn't see the game so can't comment specifically on it.
 
@geo said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394153) said:
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394005) said:
If anyone needs proof Madge needs punting, Canterbury are leading Parra 10-6 at halftime, the same team who beat us 40-6 last week.
The dogs have a far worse roster than us, but have a coach who is now getting something out of them after 14 rounds, Madge has had 3 years

Final score. ?

The dogs got a bloke a binned, always helps, if you are happy with Madge, then mediocrity is an aspiration
 
@truetiger said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394201) said:
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394005) said:
If anyone needs proof Madge needs punting, Canterbury are leading Parra 10-6 at halftime, the same team who beat us 40-6 last week.
The dogs have a far worse roster than us, but have a coach who is now getting something out of them after 14 rounds, Madge has had 3 years

Mate,reality is the Dogs were leading at halftime,then the Eels got serious and blew them away....hows Barret looking now with his ordinary roster.?

I would rate Barrett in front of Madge as a coach I would like to have at my team, and it is not even close
 
@the_third said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394399) said:
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394005) said:
If anyone needs proof Madge needs punting, Canterbury are leading Parra 10-6 at halftime, the same team who beat us 40-6 last week.
The dogs have a far worse roster than us, but have a coach who is now getting something out of them after 14 rounds, Madge has had 3 years


that didn't age well

I still rate Barrett in front of Madge as a coach I would like to have coaching my team, Barrett has had 14 rounds with an ordinary roster, they are showing more than Madge with his 3 years and his roster
 
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394455) said:
@truetiger said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394201) said:
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394005) said:
If anyone needs proof Madge needs punting, Canterbury are leading Parra 10-6 at halftime, the same team who beat us 40-6 last week.
The dogs have a far worse roster than us, but have a coach who is now getting something out of them after 14 rounds, Madge has had 3 years

Mate,reality is the Dogs were leading at halftime,then the Eels got serious and blew them away....hows Barret looking now with his ordinary roster.?

I would rate Barrett in front of Madge as a coach I would like to have at my team, and it is not even close

Your entitled to your opinion 851,but it still shows the difference between an NRL standard roster and a second rate one....no matter who the coach is....
 
@truetiger said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394458) said:
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394455) said:
@truetiger said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394201) said:
@851 said in [NRL Rd 15 \*Spoilers](/post/1394005) said:
If anyone needs proof Madge needs punting, Canterbury are leading Parra 10-6 at halftime, the same team who beat us 40-6 last week.
The dogs have a far worse roster than us, but have a coach who is now getting something out of them after 14 rounds, Madge has had 3 years

Mate,reality is the Dogs were leading at halftime,then the Eels got serious and blew them away....hows Barret looking now with his ordinary roster.?

I would rate Barrett in front of Madge as a coach I would like to have at my team, and it is not even close

Your entitled to your opinion 851,but it still shows the difference between an NRL standard roster and a second rate one....no matter who the coach is....

That I agree with, but our roster is far better than where we sit on the table, that I reckon is hard to argue with, and that sits with our coach, who has not improved us in 3 seasons
 

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