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[TieDye]

It is great that they are addressing these things, but I haven’t seen any indication that they are doing anything to address the inequities within the game. Like, the advantages teams like Bronocs and Storm get for being owned by Fox who have a major influence in the game, including the makeup of the draw. Like, the ability of some clubs like Roosters to work around the salary cap and retain a larger portion of talented players than other clubs.

It just seems like an act of distraction, I certainly don’t believe that the NRL really cares about the people, just they are using their public perception on these issues to get away with murder in other areas.

Indigenous All-Stars
Indigenous Round
public pledge to Uluru Statement
Women's Round
Women's rugby league competition
NRL Rural Aid Drought Initiative
Social Inclusion Framework
State Of Mind program
School to Work program
Voice Against Violence program
League in Harmony progam
Youth Advocate program
Ken Stephen medal, Veronica White medal

That's a lot of initiatives

Oooh, initiatives... *drools*

Sport results are not equal, never will be.

This is not insight...

Tell me, if Tigers won 90% of games every year, would you be complaining about the lack of on-field quality? Would you be urging the NRL to take action to reduce the effectiveness of the Tigers, for the good of the code?

Hahaha what kinda bollocks does this infer?
He need some milk?

 

[TieDye]

It is great that they are addressing these things, but I haven’t seen any indication that they are doing anything to address the inequities within the game. Like, the advantages teams like Bronocs and Storm get for being owned by Fox who have a major influence in the game, including the makeup of the draw. Like, the ability of some clubs like Roosters to work around the salary cap and retain a larger portion of talented players than other clubs.

It just seems like an act of distraction, I certainly don’t believe that the NRL really cares about the people, just they are using their public perception on these issues to get away with murder in other areas.

Indigenous All-Stars
Indigenous Round
public pledge to Uluru Statement
Women's Round
Women's rugby league competition
NRL Rural Aid Drought Initiative
Social Inclusion Framework
State Of Mind program
School to Work program
Voice Against Violence program
League in Harmony progam
Youth Advocate program
Ken Stephen medal, Veronica White medal

That's a lot of initiatives focused on "the people". But what I think I hear from you is on-field equality, i.e. decisions that specifically relate to match-day advantages. What exactly are you fixated on, the rich ownership of some clubs, or smart salary cap operations of the Roosters? Broncos getting Friday night matches?

Sport results are not equal, never will be. To expect equality in on-field outcomes is naive - it starts to sound like the concept of giving every kid a medal for participation. Every sporting code has it's winners and losers, some long-term subscriptions to either camp.

Tell me, if Tigers won 90% of games every year, would you be complaining about the lack of on-field quality? Would you be urging the NRL to take action to reduce the effectiveness of the Tigers, for the good of the code?

I'm not complaining mate, I'm just questioning what their motives are. I don't trust them.

Yes Tigers have been badly run for a decade or so, maybe longer looking at Balmain and Magpies, but beyond that, what I'm saying is this. I would assume that the majority of the NRL fans believe that the comp is uneven, that some teams cheat and get away with it. Hence the sombrero jokes, and the dislike for certain teams. Maybe I'm wrong in that assumption though, idk, what do you think?

(There's been too many dodgy things, the diamond ring, the (mental blank, I can't think of the word) dinner commemorating the end of the career of Smith, the game commemorating the end of career for Smith and Thurston, I don't see a non-corrupt reason there at all being possible. Is it just me?)

It’s not just you at all, mate. Another great point. Ceremonial might be the one you’re after?

 

[jirskyr]

The fact is, political messaging divides people (this thread is a great example).

Mate toilet paper divides the people, and I fear people are in some sort of hurry to be easily divided.

I'm actually not for or against the ad, I just don't really care, and the ad doesn't matter to me. I'm arguing against the response, not the ad itself.

You propose a complete absence of messaging, which I again contend is impossible with advertising. Advertising, by definition, is selling a message. Whether or not it falls into the definition of "political" really depends on your point of view, because you can't predict what will or won't offend 100% of people. So perhaps they can make an ad so boring, so lacking in message or intent, as to not get anyone offside, in which case they might as well not bother with the ad at all.

And personally, quietly, I would not at all be surprised if the NRL is actually ok with the coverage. I don't believe that any press is good press, but certainly nobody is talking about the AFL season launch as far as I can tell.

 

[jirskyr]

Hahaha what kinda bollocks does this infer?

It asks if JD would be "questioning" club inequality within the code if Tigers were sitting at the top of the heap.

 

[TieDye]

Hahaha what kinda bollocks does this infer?

It asks if JD would be "questioning" club inequality within the code if Tigers were sitting at the top of the heap.

Would any of us, Jirskyr?

I do love our chats but need to get back to work and it seems that you actually can answer your own ponderings, sometimes ?

 

[Geo]

Souff's suck

 

[jirskyr]

I would assume that the majority of the NRL fans believe that the comp is uneven, that some teams cheat and get away with it. Hence the sombrero jokes, and the dislike for certain teams. Maybe I’m wrong in that assumption though, idk, what do you think?

The comp is uneven! This is quantitatively true - it can be proven by match results.

I also absolutely believe some clubs cheat and get away with it. I believe this to be true in 100% of life's competitions, because I believe the moment you put a rule in place, you immediately create a desire for at least 1 person want to break that rule. Wherever there are people, there are cheats.

Your real question is whether or not the NRL is complicit in the inequality. Whether the NRL (I am not sure if you mean the whole body or just decision-makers like Greeberg) are corrupt. Whether the inequality in the NRL exists by design, with intended winners and losers.

I don't believe it is. There may be corrupt individuals, as I am sure there are in FIFA or the IOC, but do those persons or interest groups actively control the outcomes of matches, or intentionally set up inequality to favour certain clubs? I can't see it. For a business, it would be an extreme risk to revenues to intentionally destabilise the competition in favour of some specific club, for some specific reason. The Melbourne Storm salary cap was already damaging enough, could you imagine if the NRL was proven to be corrupt and artificially propping up Broncos or Roosters? The whole thing would implode.

 

[JD Tiger]

I would assume that the majority of the NRL fans believe that the comp is uneven, that some teams cheat and get away with it. Hence the sombrero jokes, and the dislike for certain teams. Maybe I’m wrong in that assumption though, idk, what do you think?

The comp is uneven! This is quantitatively true - it can be proven by match results.

I also absolutely believe some clubs cheat and get away with it. I believe this to be true in 100% of life's competitions, because I believe the moment you put a rule in place, you immediately create a desire for at least 1 person want to break that rule. Wherever there are people, there are cheats.

Your real question is whether or not the NRL is complicit in the inequality. Whether the NRL (I am not sure if you mean the whole body or just decision-makers like Greeberg) are corrupt. Whether the inequality in the NRL exists by design, with intended winners and losers.

I don't believe it is. There may be corrupt individuals, as I am sure there are in FIFA or the IOC, but do those persons or interest groups actively control the outcomes of matches, or intentionally set up inequality to favour certain clubs? I can't see it. For a business, it would be an extreme risk to revenues to intentionally destabilise the competition in favour of some specific club, for some specific reason. The Melbourne Storm salary cap was already damaging enough, could you imagine if the NRL was proven to be corrupt and artificially propping up Broncos or Roosters? The whole thing would implode.

I think they do mate. I think Greenburg and probably the whole NRL does whatever Fox says. But omg that will change massively if some other company other than Fox gets the streaming rights to the league. Imagine it... Fingers crossed.

 

[Blaze]

Sorry, but if seeing a TV add, or a indigenous acknowledgement, or gay couple stirs deep emotions in you, that's the definition of snowflake. It's beneficial if you can regulate your emotions and not let such things get you going so much.

So because I voice my opinion about being force fed other people’s agendas and want to disagree with it all that makes me a snowflake? However the very thing that is making them want to go out and shove it in my face doesn’t mean they are? I’m really finding it hard to understand your double standards... sympathise with them all you like, but just because I don’t feel the need to do the same and have voiced my opinion that I’m sick of hearing it, doesn’t make me a snowflake. It just means that I’m not a sympathetic sheep. I have my own problems and opinions but they don’t put me in an nrl commercial... why? Because I own my life and I don’t feel the need to blame others for the crap life thats been handed to me, nor do I sit back and ask for sympathy. All I want to do is watch a game of football without it being turned into something bigger. Clearly it’s to much to ask in this day and age.

Being "force fed other people's agendas" in this case means seeing someone in an advert with a flag. I just can't comprehend how it makes you feel like you can't watch a game of football. The football hasn't changed - why are you so convinced it has? You're so desperate to say that you "sympathise", yet you aren't even capable of shrugging your shoulders and waiting for round one. Why is that? Why does it bother you so much to see a flag?

Where have I ever said that I sympathise? I’ve in fact stated the opposite. I also made no mention that the actual football Was changing... all I’ve made reference to is the fact that the ad jumps on this politically correct bandwagon that many other factors in life do, just to please minorities and make ppl feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves. All I’m saying is that I’m over it. It’s not just this one ad as ppl on here have based their arguments against me on here.. it’s everywhere in life now, radio, billboards, tv, schools, magazines... it’s shoved in your face in every avenue possible because it politically correct for companies etc involved to show they care and not want to upset them. My point is I have to shrug my shoulders and wait for round one don’t I? Because I have no choice anymore. I know everyone is sitting back thinking Gez he’s got no tolerance to ppls plights and issues.. but the thing is, I did once.. I just don’t care anymore purely because it’s been pushed and pushed at every angle that I’m now numb, and it’s now to the point that you can’t even say that you don’t like something without being assumed a borderline racist or bigamist or whatever ppl call each other these days. I don’t care about seeing an aboriginal flag. I actually like the flag more than our own and that’s partly because I have other issues on being part of the commonwealth too but that’s a whole other story... I just don’t think it needed to be singled out in this case... it was just unnecessary. There was a whole game supporting indigenous ppl from a whole range of countries, which is great! Celebrate it! But why do we feel the need to do it every chance we get? Is it out of guilt? I just don’t understand anymore... I guess I’m out of touch.

 

[2041]

Sorry, but if seeing a TV add, or a indigenous acknowledgement, or gay couple stirs deep emotions in you, that's the definition of snowflake. It's beneficial if you can regulate your emotions and not let such things get you going so much.

So because I voice my opinion about being force fed other people’s agendas and want to disagree with it all that makes me a snowflake? However the very thing that is making them want to go out and shove it in my face doesn’t mean they are? I’m really finding it hard to understand your double standards... sympathise with them all you like, but just because I don’t feel the need to do the same and have voiced my opinion that I’m sick of hearing it, doesn’t make me a snowflake. It just means that I’m not a sympathetic sheep. I have my own problems and opinions but they don’t put me in an nrl commercial... why? Because I own my life and I don’t feel the need to blame others for the crap life thats been handed to me, nor do I sit back and ask for sympathy. All I want to do is watch a game of football without it being turned into something bigger. Clearly it’s to much to ask in this day and age.

Being "force fed other people's agendas" in this case means seeing someone in an advert with a flag. I just can't comprehend how it makes you feel like you can't watch a game of football. The football hasn't changed - why are you so convinced it has? You're so desperate to say that you "sympathise", yet you aren't even capable of shrugging your shoulders and waiting for round one. Why is that? Why does it bother you so much to see a flag?

Where have I ever said that I sympathise? I’ve in fact stated the opposite. I also made no mention that the actual football Was changing... all I’ve made reference to is the fact that the ad jumps on this politically correct bandwagon that many other factors in life do, just to please minorities and make ppl feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves. All I’m saying is that I’m over it. It’s not just this one ad as ppl on here have based their arguments against me on here.. it’s everywhere in life now, radio, billboards, tv, schools, magazines... it’s shoved in your face in every avenue possible because it politically correct for companies etc involved to show they care and not want to upset them. My point is I have to shrug my shoulders and wait for round one don’t I? Because I have no choice anymore. I know everyone is sitting back thinking Gez he’s got no tolerance to ppls plights and issues.. but the thing is, I did once.. I just don’t care anymore purely because it’s been pushed and pushed at every angle that I’m now numb, and it’s now to the point that you can’t even say that you don’t like something without being assumed a borderline racist or bigamist or whatever ppl call each other these days. I don’t care about seeing an aboriginal flag. I actually like the flag more than our own and that’s partly because I have other issues on being part of the commonwealth too but that’s a whole other story... I just don’t think it needed to be singled out in this case... it was just unnecessary. There was a whole game supporting indigenous ppl from a whole range of countries, which is great! Celebrate it! But why do we feel the need to do it every chance we get? Is it out of guilt? I just don’t understand anymore... I guess I’m out of touch.

On re-reading your posts, you're right that you never said you sympathise with aboriginal people. I apologise wholeheartedly for suggesting that you did.

I'm also glad that you don't care about seeing an aboriginal flag. Presumably now you can stop ranting about how angry it makes you that there was one on an advert.

Yes, you have "no choice any more" but sometimes to be confronted with the reality that people with other cultures and lifestyles exist. I'm sorry you are so triggered by that. Honestly, I think it's sad that you find it so threatening.

 

[TieDye]

Sorry, but if seeing a TV add, or a indigenous acknowledgement, or gay couple stirs deep emotions in you, that's the definition of snowflake. It's beneficial if you can regulate your emotions and not let such things get you going so much.

So because I voice my opinion about being force fed other people’s agendas and want to disagree with it all that makes me a snowflake? However the very thing that is making them want to go out and shove it in my face doesn’t mean they are? I’m really finding it hard to understand your double standards... sympathise with them all you like, but just because I don’t feel the need to do the same and have voiced my opinion that I’m sick of hearing it, doesn’t make me a snowflake. It just means that I’m not a sympathetic sheep. I have my own problems and opinions but they don’t put me in an nrl commercial... why? Because I own my life and I don’t feel the need to blame others for the crap life thats been handed to me, nor do I sit back and ask for sympathy. All I want to do is watch a game of football without it being turned into something bigger. Clearly it’s to much to ask in this day and age.

Being "force fed other people's agendas" in this case means seeing someone in an advert with a flag. I just can't comprehend how it makes you feel like you can't watch a game of football. The football hasn't changed - why are you so convinced it has? You're so desperate to say that you "sympathise", yet you aren't even capable of shrugging your shoulders and waiting for round one. Why is that? Why does it bother you so much to see a flag?

Where have I ever said that I sympathise? I’ve in fact stated the opposite. I also made no mention that the actual football Was changing... all I’ve made reference to is the fact that the ad jumps on this politically correct bandwagon that many other factors in life do, just to please minorities and make ppl feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves. All I’m saying is that I’m over it. It’s not just this one ad as ppl on here have based their arguments against me on here.. it’s everywhere in life now, radio, billboards, tv, schools, magazines... it’s shoved in your face in every avenue possible because it politically correct for companies etc involved to show they care and not want to upset them. My point is I have to shrug my shoulders and wait for round one don’t I? Because I have no choice anymore. I know everyone is sitting back thinking Gez he’s got no tolerance to ppls plights and issues.. but the thing is, I did once.. I just don’t care anymore purely because it’s been pushed and pushed at every angle that I’m now numb, and it’s now to the point that you can’t even say that you don’t like something without being assumed a borderline racist or bigamist or whatever ppl call each other these days. I don’t care about seeing an aboriginal flag. I actually like the flag more than our own and that’s partly because I have other issues on being part of the commonwealth too but that’s a whole other story... I just don’t think it needed to be singled out in this case... it was just unnecessary. There was a whole game supporting indigenous ppl from a whole range of countries, which is great! Celebrate it! But why do we feel the need to do it every chance we get? Is it out of guilt? I just don’t understand anymore... I guess I’m out of touch.

On re-reading your posts, you're right that you never said you sympathise with aboriginal people. I apologise wholeheartedly for suggesting that you did.

I'm also glad that you don't care about seeing an aboriginal flag. Presumably now you can stop ranting about how angry it makes you that there was one on an advert.

Yes, you have "no choice any more" but sometimes to be confronted with the reality that people with other cultures and lifestyles exist. I'm sorry you are so triggered by that. Honestly, I think it's sad that you find it so threatening.

In between “threatening” said culture and attacking it is a very thin line.

Do you think farmers care whether or not the people helping to fight fire’s as recently as Christmas time... in... Australia are Muslim, Gay, Skinny or Old ?

Hence why people do find it more than a personal acknowledgement of culture but an act of division, as I’m not sure how much further indigenous can actually be recognised with how Rugby League is currently run by the head honchos. Surprised they didn’t expect backlash

You can’t have the cake and eat it! Many great initiatives that supposedly go above and beyond already , so the why the need for this ad when AFL aren’t following suit and a lot of it probably falls onto the fact that the ARLC are a stale old bunch. Todd clearly lacks vision.

 

[Russell]

Maybe if we had a more positive message

Like Lattrell Mitchell succeeding, being proud of his heritage and being welcomed by the white dominated world in which he exists? That’s a great positive message and one I’m sure, by your own words, you’d like to encourage. I wonder if there’s some way the NRL could help with that message. Any thoughts?

Maybe if we had a more positive message

Like Lattrell Mitchell succeeding, being proud of his heritage and being welcomed by the white dominated world in which he exists? That’s a great positive message and one I’m sure, by your own words, you’d like to encourage. I wonder if there’s some way the NRL could help with that message. Any thoughts?

Yep, Latrell could tone down the attitude by about 80%, his mate Cody by 99% and tell a lot of his mates to do the same.

It would be much easier for the Aboriginal culture to garner empathy if they dropped the attitude.

 

[Blaze]

@2041 said
I'm also glad that you don't care about seeing an aboriginal flag. Presumably now you can stop ranting about how angry it makes you that there was one on an advert.

Yes, you have "no choice any more" but sometimes to be confronted with the reality that people with other cultures and lifestyles exist. I'm sorry you are so triggered by that. Honestly, I think it's sad that you find it so threatening.

See, your now assuming that the sight of the flag makes me angry... ive done my best to clearly explain why I have the opinion I do however if all you want to do is assume how I feel about a flag and cultures which I have never mentioned either by the way, or even assume that I am threatened by any of this, it’s pointless replying. I’m not triggered, I am clearly and openly expressing my issue of everyone over saturating politically correct points. To be honest I think it’s sad that it’s got to a point where people can’t express their opinions without being labelled as a racist when I am clearly not. But that’s the point isnt it. Everytime someone wants to oppose anything these days, automatically they are. Enjoy your day mate.

 

[Russell]

@2041 said
I'm also glad that you don't care about seeing an aboriginal flag. Presumably now you can stop ranting about how angry it makes you that there was one on an advert.

Yes, you have "no choice any more" but sometimes to be confronted with the reality that people with other cultures and lifestyles exist. I'm sorry you are so triggered by that. Honestly, I think it's sad that you find it so threatening.

See, your now assuming that the sight of the flag makes me angry... ive done my best to clearly explain why I have the opinion I do however if all you want to do is assume how I feel about a flag and cultures which I have never mentioned either by the way, or even assume that I am threatened by any of this, it’s pointless replying. I’m not triggered, I am clearly and openly expressing my issue of everyone over saturating politically correct points. To be honest I think it’s sad that it’s got to a point where people can’t express their opinions without being labelled as a racist when I am clearly not. But that’s the point isnt it. Everytime someone wants to oppose anything these days, automatically they are. Enjoy your day mate.

@2041 said
I'm also glad that you don't care about seeing an aboriginal flag. Presumably now you can stop ranting about how angry it makes you that there was one on an advert.

Yes, you have "no choice any more" but sometimes to be confronted with the reality that people with other cultures and lifestyles exist. I'm sorry you are so triggered by that. Honestly, I think it's sad that you find it so threatening.

See, your now assuming that the sight of the flag makes me angry... ive done my best to clearly explain why I have the opinion I do however if all you want to do is assume how I feel about a flag and cultures which I have never mentioned either by the way, or even assume that I am threatened by any of this, it’s pointless replying. I’m not triggered, I am clearly and openly expressing my issue of everyone over saturating politically correct points. To be honest I think it’s sad that it’s got to a point where people can’t express their opinions without being labelled as a racist when I am clearly not. But that’s the point isnt it. Everytime someone wants to oppose anything these days, automatically they are. Enjoy your day mate.

Understand totally what you are saying.

I wonder if some readers don't understand, or don't want to understand.

 

[TieDye]

Maybe if we had a more positive message

Like Lattrell Mitchell succeeding, being proud of his heritage and being welcomed by the white dominated world in which he exists? That’s a great positive message and one I’m sure, by your own words, you’d like to encourage. I wonder if there’s some way the NRL could help with that message. Any thoughts?

Maybe if we had a more positive message

Like Lattrell Mitchell succeeding, being proud of his heritage and being welcomed by the white dominated world in which he exists? That’s a great positive message and one I’m sure, by your own words, you’d like to encourage. I wonder if there’s some way the NRL could help with that message. Any thoughts?

Yep, Latrell could tone down the attitude by about 80%, his mate Cody by 99% and tell a lot of his mates to do the same.

It would be much easier for the Aboriginal culture to garner empathy if they dropped the attitude.

One of the worst double-edged swords that exists and people that propagate these sorts of things and go about marketing it in this way usually have an agenda all of their own.

Feels like the fabric of society is being torn apart lmao, no, t’is but a small resistance to the amazing things many ordinary Australians already do to help out. Time to help ourselves.

As you see recently, in the Corona virus thread where racism for me was actually not apparent and it is genuinely unbelievably silly for people - of any ethnicity - to be hoarding toilet paper. Yet people still ready the defences

Absolutely fruitless. It’s like arguing with anybody who is actively opposing inclusion in the game of rugby league on here, not to do with anything that happened 100 years ago.

They are only doing this because NRL represents the national game and in a light that the PC chapter clearly erroneously approved! Still doesn’t change the fact that the bulk of this situation is on Mitchell’s own back now.

 

[weststigers]

The fact is, political messaging divides people (this thread is a great example).

Mate toilet paper divides the people, and I fear people are in some sort of hurry to be easily divided.

I'm actually not for or against the ad, I just don't really care, and the ad doesn't matter to me. I'm arguing against the response, not the ad itself.

You propose a complete absence of messaging, which I again contend is impossible with advertising. Advertising, by definition, is selling a message. Whether or not it falls into the definition of "political" really depends on your point of view, because you can't predict what will or won't offend 100% of people. So perhaps they can make an ad so boring, so lacking in message or intent, as to not get anyone offside, in which case they might as well not bother with the ad at all.

And personally, quietly, I would not at all be surprised if the NRL is actually ok with the coverage. I don't believe that any press is good press, but certainly nobody is talking about the AFL season launch as far as I can tell.

To be clear I mean relevant messaging (I thought I explained this)...same-sex marriage or heterosexual marriage is not relevant in sport. It doesn't matter how you try and slice it...it's about as relevant to the game as 2 men or women or straight or trans people pashing on a box of Connect 4...

Can't you just accept that not everyone wants to see the virtue signalling everywhere they look?

Some people aren't as passionate about it as you or others on this forum. It doesn't mean they don't care about others.

People just want a release for an hour or so without the politics. Then they'll have enough strength to deal with the next 6 days when they'll be finger wagged to about how terrible they are.

 

[2041]

@2041 said
I'm also glad that you don't care about seeing an aboriginal flag. Presumably now you can stop ranting about how angry it makes you that there was one on an advert.

Yes, you have "no choice any more" but sometimes to be confronted with the reality that people with other cultures and lifestyles exist. I'm sorry you are so triggered by that. Honestly, I think it's sad that you find it so threatening.

See, your now assuming that the sight of the flag makes me angry... ive done my best to clearly explain why I have the opinion I do however if all you want to do is assume how I feel about a flag and cultures which I have never mentioned either by the way, or even assume that I am threatened by any of this, it’s pointless replying. I’m not triggered, I am clearly and openly expressing my issue of everyone over saturating politically correct points. To be honest I think it’s sad that it’s got to a point where people can’t express their opinions without being labelled as a racist when I am clearly not. But that’s the point isnt it. Everytime someone wants to oppose anything these days, automatically they are. Enjoy your day mate.

Please point to where I've called you racist, without referring to your feelings or beliefs that this is what normally happens. You won't be able to, as I haven't. You have a great day too.

 

[2041]

why the need for this ad when AFL aren’t following suit

Ah yes, the AFL: definitely a model to follow when it comes to indigenous relations. Adam Goodes says hi.

 

[2041]

Maybe if we had a more positive message

Like Lattrell Mitchell succeeding, being proud of his heritage and being welcomed by the white dominated world in which he exists? That’s a great positive message and one I’m sure, by your own words, you’d like to encourage. I wonder if there’s some way the NRL could help with that message. Any thoughts?

Maybe if we had a more positive message

Like Lattrell Mitchell succeeding, being proud of his heritage and being welcomed by the white dominated world in which he exists? That’s a great positive message and one I’m sure, by your own words, you’d like to encourage. I wonder if there’s some way the NRL could help with that message. Any thoughts?

Yep, Latrell could tone down the attitude by about 80%, his mate Cody by 99% and tell a lot of his mates to do the same.

It would be much easier for the Aboriginal culture to garner empathy if they dropped the attitude.

Here it comes: you don't have a problem with them provided they know their place and don't get too uppity, right?

 

[Blaze]

@2041 said
I'm also glad that you don't care about seeing an aboriginal flag. Presumably now you can stop ranting about how angry it makes you that there was one on an advert.

Yes, you have "no choice any more" but sometimes to be confronted with the reality that people with other cultures and lifestyles exist. I'm sorry you are so triggered by that. Honestly, I think it's sad that you find it so threatening.

See, your now assuming that the sight of the flag makes me angry... ive done my best to clearly explain why I have the opinion I do however if all you want to do is assume how I feel about a flag and cultures which I have never mentioned either by the way, or even assume that I am threatened by any of this, it’s pointless replying. I’m not triggered, I am clearly and openly expressing my issue of everyone over saturating politically correct points. To be honest I think it’s sad that it’s got to a point where people can’t express their opinions without being labelled as a racist when I am clearly not. But that’s the point isnt it. Everytime someone wants to oppose anything these days, automatically they are. Enjoy your day mate.

Please point to where I've called you racist, without referring to your feelings or beliefs that this is what normally happens. You won't be able to, as I haven't. You have a great day too.

Your right, I apologise, you didn’t call me racist. However in my defence you did say I was angered, triggered and threatened when confronted by a flag and cultures.. I was simply putting two and two together. Seems I miscalculated would like to retract that comment.