Harvey
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Need to find a better hooker than Peats. He adds nothing.
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GNR4LIFE
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The cupboard is pretty bare in the hooking department for NSW.
WestsBenTigers
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He doesn't need to add anything.
All we want from our hooker is to give quick service to the halves so they have as much time as possible. And as long as he does his job in defence, and doesn't miss any tackles than that's all we need from our hooker.
And I think Peats fits that criteria, so we are better off showing loyalty and confidence towards Peats so he isn't under the pressure of retaining his spot every game and he and focus on the task at hand.
As long as we have two capable halves of controlling the game, getting the side to where they need to be on the park, and can set up scoring opportunities - Then Peats is all we need at hooker.
Tiger_Watto
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Sorry, but history will show some of the greatest teams in SOO will have a DH who knows when to engage markers, make a dirty hit-up, and take the team straight down the park.
Its just not as simple as shovelling to Forwards and Halves. NRL Teams might get away with that as a game plan, but at SOO Level, you rarely get to excute your actual game plan. Everything is negotiable!
Its just not as simple as shovelling to Forwards and Halves. NRL Teams might get away with that as a game plan, but at SOO Level, you rarely get to excute your actual game plan. Everything is negotiable!
WestsBenTigers
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You can't make a game plan from a player that you don't have.
The best 3 hookers in the game are all Queenslanders.
QLD centre around their spine but NSW can't compete in this area (except for fullback)
So we are better off focusing on our forward where we are better than Queensland (McLean, Turbo, Klemmer, Vaughan, Campbell-Gillard, Frizell, Cordner, Jackson etc.)
Tiger_Watto
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I agree Peats is somewhat lacking in some facets of his game, but Forwards need direction & quick PTB and it simply cant come from the Halves.
NSW will need 2 Specialist DH in their squad!
GNR4LIFE
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The best option might be Peter Wallace. Best of a bad bunch.
Balmainbred
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D.Cook is a outstanding hooker if he pressures for the first grade spot at Souths next year could be a danger to Peats if his form or injury come into play .But we have to start to build around past players as we all know you can’t win every game by chop & change which NSW has done for so long,
The-moP
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NSW has to start blooding some new players into the team Mitchell, Cleary, Moses, RCG, Brailey, McLean, the Turbo brothers and Creighton are our players for the future. They are all full time 1st graders now, they seasoned hard and have all played big games .. now's the time for them to see what SOO is all about. There's a good blend of experience there to show these guys the ropes, we've got some big boppers, Cleary will kick goals, and both halves have good kicking games.
1\. Tedesco
2\. Mansour
3\. Bird
4\. Mitchell
5\. Trbojevic
6\. Moses
7\. Cleary
8\. Campbell-Gillard
9\. Brailey
10\. McLean
11\. Cordner ©
12\. Klemmer
13\. Frizel
14\. Vaughan
15\. Creighton
16\. Trbojevic
17\. Fifita
18\. Gutherson
1\. Tedesco
2\. Mansour
3\. Bird
4\. Mitchell
5\. Trbojevic
6\. Moses
7\. Cleary
8\. Campbell-Gillard
9\. Brailey
10\. McLean
11\. Cordner ©
12\. Klemmer
13\. Frizel
14\. Vaughan
15\. Creighton
16\. Trbojevic
17\. Fifita
18\. Gutherson
WestsBenTigers
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No utility!
And Moses over Gutherson!!!
Also, I think J Liddle is a better hooker than Brailey. So if we are talking about hookers of the future. Liddle should be in the team.
The-moP
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Nah, sorry to say this but Brailey is well ahead of Liddle now. Liddle may have beat Brailey out for the NSW/Aust under 20's gig a year or two back, but Brailey has developed far more than Liddle has.
Unless Liddle puts on some upper body size, he won't be able to stand the week to week pounding he's going to receive playing in NRL. Not to mention that he has already had a shoulder op after playing two or three games for us.
No utility, that's why they pick 18 players and decide just before kick off (i think its 40 minutes before kick off) who will be 18th player .. Gutherson would be a the utility .. and Creighton is could be handy as well in the backline.
T. Trbojevic can play anywhere in the backline from 1 to 5
Gutherson can play anywhere from 1 to 7
Josh Addo-Carr won't to be far off being picked for NSW next season as well.
Unless Liddle puts on some upper body size, he won't be able to stand the week to week pounding he's going to receive playing in NRL. Not to mention that he has already had a shoulder op after playing two or three games for us.
No utility, that's why they pick 18 players and decide just before kick off (i think its 40 minutes before kick off) who will be 18th player .. Gutherson would be a the utility .. and Creighton is could be handy as well in the backline.
T. Trbojevic can play anywhere in the backline from 1 to 5
Gutherson can play anywhere from 1 to 7
Josh Addo-Carr won't to be far off being picked for NSW next season as well.
goldcoast_tiger
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X2
goldcoast_tiger
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Yeah, Peats was out of his league.
goldcoast_tiger
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1O Newbys, At the same time!!
Anything else we can do to hand it over to Qld on a plate.
WestsBenTigers
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It depends what role you want your hooker to play.
If you want them to just make their tackles and give good service then you would go for McInnes or Peats
If you wanted spark and more of an attacking hooker you would go with Liddle, Koroisau, Cook
Then you could go left field and throw Pearce or J Reynolds in at 9 and see how they go.
Depends what role you want your #9 to play
goldcoast_tiger
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Liddle has to learn to be a first grader before he will get i within a bulls roar of an Origin team. Braille is in the same boat.
goldcoast_tiger
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A hooker who can't run when the time is right to do it.
Why not just tell Qld to belt the daylights out of the first receivers?
It's bad enough that the defence is hardly ever on side in Origin.
The one thing that can keep then almost on side , and maybe a little hesitant is the doubt that the DH can get a quick scoot if the markers get lazy.
Our first receivers would be in for a bashing all night
WestsBenTigers
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Well Liddle certainly knows how to get out of dummy-half.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SrGYivyTAY
goldcoast_tiger
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@goldcoast_tiger said:
Ah! The old gem , the under 20,s highlight video, always good for a chuckle. .
Also wasn't it you who said that we don't need a hooker to do that?
WestsBenTigers
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I never said that Liddle should be in the side for 2018.
We are better off going with Peats.
But I was talking Liddle v Brailey and how I believe Liddle is better and how he can get out of dummy half.
