Number of poor performances this year

[jirskyr]

Reminds me a lot of 2013 to be honest.
Although believe it or not that team consisted of 10 senior players (25 and over + over 100 games)

I agree, I think the major difference with 2021 is that we have a legitimately young side and the more senior players are not, and have never really been consistent top-level performers.

So if you look back to 2013, there were some guys like Galloway, probably Benji, Lawrence, Fulton that you could bank what you'd expect from them every week. Benji was not always stellar but always a threat.

2021 side, those senior equivalents have often not peaked in the game - guys like Mbye, Nofo, Brooks have never reached consistently top heights in the game. I'd say a comparison to Benji - he'd either win you the game, or he'd mess it up trying really hard, but he rarely *lost* you the game.

So we end up with a hard mix - good young kids who will always have their inconsistencies, plus unreliable older heads. Tamou is probably our most-credentialled senior player and he's had minimal impact on the team or their output. The rest of the key players all young and all with a considerable lack of experience - Laurie, Stefano, Doueihi, Luch, Mikaele, Tuki, Simpkin, Liddle. Compounded obviously by the fact that the reserves have been cancelled two years in a row now, which makes it an even harder task to upskill and season developing players.

 

[GarryOwen]

Y'all have some short memories:

* 2001 - in one season Hoppa got done for hidden fingers and Field/McGuinness suspended for drugs; won 9 matches and finished 12th. The season included the infamous back-to-back mid-season 56-6 and 66-12 losses to Knights and Eels, followed by the all-time arse kicking 64-0 away to Melbourne two months later.

* 2003 - first year of Sheens, start 2 wins from 4 then a 1W 8L tragic run including conceding 26 points or more for every one of those losses. Tigers kept to 8 points or less 8 times in 24 matches (1/3 of matches). Finished the season with 3 30-point losses.

* 2013 - having sacked and still paying for Tim Sheens, first year under a new coach, only managed 7 wins all season and ended with 1W 8L the final 9 rounds (only a single win after June 2013). Finished 15th. Lowlights include a 3-week run of 40-4, 30-6 and 51-10 against Dogs, Sharks and Souths. Rounded out the year with a 56-14 shellacking from Easts at home and a 55-20 loss in Townsville. 7 wins total that season, finished 13th.

* 2015 - another new-coach year, won the opening 2 matches, but went 1 W 9 L midseason including the infamous "Taylorball" 8-0 loss at home to Cowboys. Finished 15th. Nathan Milone was given the first 3 of his total 6 FG runs.

* 2017 - Two big losses Rounds 2 and 3 see Jason Taylor punted and Ivan Cleary installed. Despite this Tigers go on another 1W 9L run mis-season including 36-blot to Broncos at Suncorp and the annual 40-18 Roosters hiding. The 28-8 loss to Souths in Rd 10 is the famous Mitchell Moses tanking match and he's named halfback for the Eels side 1 week later. Tedesco and Woods decide to leave. Only manage 7 wins and finish 14th.

I know the OP is talking about total # poor performances, but I think the context of the season also adds to the damage and quality of the losses. There are some losses which are bad for lack of effort or application, there are other losses which are bad because in-fighting or off-field drama have derailed the playing group.

By the way I'll intentionally point out that those horrendous seasons were the first seasons of 5 of our 7 coaches. It unfortunately predicts another bad year if Madge was to go.

BTW if we win 1 more match 2021 will be only the 7th worst win/loss ratio in our history.

This is some sad reading.
Personally, this current period doesn't touch some of the earlier ones, but it's not far off. I think the NRL is more inequitable than it ever has been (for a variety of reasons), so I think our task in getting back to a competitive level is harder than in previous situations.

I think the Lamb/Hoppa years are probably the nadir of the club since inception, but shout out to 2013 and the entire JT era. 2003 was grim, but we at least unearthed a few genuine gems that would turn out to be world beaters.
2013 was the final breaking point of what we thought was a pretty good team, and the messy break up with Benji.
JT actually had the foundations to start a decent rebuild, but was just a shocking appointment on so many levels. Unfortunately didn't have much support from Mayer and co either. That period set us back years looking back on it - we have not yet recovered (though Ivan exacerbated things with the various contracts doled out).

 

[2005magic]

The Cowboys loss at LO might be "only" statistically poor but for mine it is the worst performance of the year. Everything that game was meant to represent and they phoned it in. Absolutely abysmal.

100% agree with you there mate

It broke something in me. My enthusiasm has gone way down since then and care factor has totally gone. I'm embarrassed to talk about my support for WT now in conversation at work and socially.

 

[aturkey]

Does anyone remember a year since 2003 where we put up so many bad performances?
Theres been very few losses this year where I have walked away and thought we played okay. Usually theres a heap of games you would walk out of and think we got done but had a good crack. I went through our games and ranked them from Excellent, Good, OK, Poor and Terrible. What a shocking year.

Excellent
- Knights (W 36-18)
- Dragons (W 34-18)

Good
- Souths (L 18-14)
- Knights (W 24-20)
- Dragons (W 16-8)
- Panthers (W 26-6)
- Broncos (W 44-24)

Ok
- Bulldogs (W 28-16)
- Cowboys (W 24-16)
- Eels (L 36-22)
- Manly (L 44-24)

Poor
- Warriors (L 30-26)
- Raiders (L 30-12)
- Cowboys (L 34-30)
- Warriors (L 18-16)
- Souths (L 38-22)

Terrible
- Eels (L 40-12)
- Roosters (L 40-6)
- Manly (L 40-6)
- Sharks (L 50-20)
- Storm (L 66-16)

It's one of those seasons where we have made no improvement in any area across the course of the season. The anomaly is the Souths game. That is it. Our attack is as good as it was in round 1 and so is our defence.

 

[aturkey]

And just so I can say I said it. Turn one or two of those awful performances into wins and we fall in the top 8. What does that say about the rest of the bottom teams?

I still hold hope because a lot of these guys are very young and so they don't handle the pressure very well and that was on show for everyone to see on the weekend. Forced passes trying to score on every play. Not building pressure etc.

I actually think we showed amazing courage after the cowboys LO debacle. Any other team would have completely fallen apart at the seams. Our worst season was tedescos last season when we fell dead last by a long shot.

Dead last?

 

[happy_tiger]

Does anyone remember a year since 2003 where we put up so many bad performances?
Theres been very few losses this year where I have walked away and thought we played okay. Usually theres a heap of games you would walk out of and think we got done but had a good crack. I went through our games and ranked them from Excellent, Good, OK, Poor and Terrible. What a shocking year.

Excellent
- Knights (W 36-18)
- Dragons (W 34-18)

Good
- Souths (L 18-14)
- Knights (W 24-20)
- Dragons (W 16-8)
- Panthers (W 26-6)
- Broncos (W 44-24)

Ok
- Bulldogs (W 28-16)
- Cowboys (W 24-16)
- Eels (L 36-22)
- Manly (L 44-24)

Poor
- Warriors (L 30-26)
- Raiders (L 30-12)
- Cowboys (L 34-30)
- Warriors (L 18-16)
- Souths (L 38-22)

Terrible
- Eels (L 40-12)
- Roosters (L 40-6)
- Manly (L 40-6)
- Sharks (L 50-20)
- Storm (L 66-16)

Yeah 2022 ....

 

[upthetigers]

This is the first season where I have turned off the footy or didn't watch the game at all.

 

[Merlot]

its part of a coming of age ritual,for the diehards,a kick in the backside awaits after 50 years of service,rumor has it

 

[jrtiger]

our inability to remain focussed is what continues to plague us. if we remain switched on for 80 minutes, more often than not we are at the very least in the game (Souths). that comes with youth, it takes time to build an 80 minute performance with a side with an average age of 23. what we have failed to address in our recruitment to address this, is experience. we're going to go backwards for a while yet unless we can make some signings before Round 1 2022.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

I will tell you whats poor and laugable.
Phone call yesterday from Membership Dept offering free tickets to this weekends game. (Tigers/Pathers)
Was busy so asked for an email but verbally told me that was this Saturday at 5pm??? Then sent email with same verbal details.

I was initially thinking game is Sunday i thought has the day been changed? Nope it Sunday and our Membership team dont know what day we are playing...Muppett lol

 

[Demps]

I will tell you whats poor and laugable.
Phone call yesterday from Membership Dept offering free tickets to this weekends game. (Tigers/Pathers)
Was busy so asked for an email but verbally told me that was this Saturday at 5pm??? Then sent email with same verbal details.

I was initially thinking game is Sunday i thought has the day been changed? Nope it Sunday and our Membership team dont know what day we are playing...Muppett lol

Wow

That's embarrassing man.
Sorry you had to deal with such incompetence.

 

[Merlot]

the club review will keep those jobs safe also.no doubt

 

[Tiger_Fanatic3]

The Tommy Tribute games really hurt

 

[Tiger Woods]

We need Laurie Nichols fighting spirit
& maybe chuck Norris 🥊

 

[crazycat]

The Tommy Tribute games really hurt

Another game where we don't turn up till 40 minutes in.
I think we had 3 of them this year. Our attack is Okayish. Our defense, woeful.

We need to muscle up. We need grit. Our training seems very hard, very intensive but we don't get good skills for defense~~!!

Were doing the wrong things on the field. We need a tough defense coach or else we will be <9 next year.

 

[Needaname]

The Tommy Tribute games really hurt

Another game where we don't turn up till 40 minutes in.
I think we had 3 of them this year. Our attack is Okayish. Our defense, woeful.

We need to muscle up. We need grit. Our training seems very hard, very intensive but we don't get good skills for defense~~!!

Were doing the wrong things on the field. We need a tough defense coach or else we will be <9 next year.

It’s nothing new. We’ve struggled to be the dominant side of the ruck since our inception.
We’ve never over powered sides and never been known as a team to.
We’ve always had an under sized pack.
This year size wise our side is larger across the park than we have had in the past years. Problem is the agility and the grit is lacking because the young guys don’t play with that style as they come through. They will be much better for the run this year if we keep them together.