One ref

[mike]

Also, as I have found out the hard way, consultation doesn’t necessarily mean discussion. It can mean just informing you of the changes in an appropriate time frame.

 

[JD Tiger]

Whatever happens in this space, I will be very surprised if this stoush ends up delaying the re-start of the season. Wow, which is only seven days away, I forgot it was that soon.

 

[JC99]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

 

[JC99]

If anyone think refs would cause this drama just for the sake of it I don’t know what to say. They took the same pay cut as the players and have offered to take even more of a pay cut to help the NRL so it’s not about money either. They’re just people 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[mike]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

I think they were given at least 4 weeks notice.

 

[mike]

The competition doesn’t re-start until next week

 

[JC99]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

I think they were given at least 4 weeks notice.

I don’t think so. It wasn’t even talked about for four weeks in the media before it happened. PVL just pushes it through without asking anyone else like he normally does

 

[mike]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

I think they were given at least 4 weeks notice.

I don’t think so. It wasn’t even talked about for four weeks in the media before it happened. PVL just pushes it through without asking anyone else like he normally does

It hasn’t happened yet. The competition doesn’t start until next week. I’m pretty sure they have been given due notice. You may not like V’landys style, but the refs have been given notice of when the changes are to take place. The 28th May.

 

[cochise]

V'landys also stated that the agreement only required consultation after the decision was made and the NRL had fulfilled that.

 

[JC99]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

I think they were given at least 4 weeks notice.

I don’t think so. It wasn’t even talked about for four weeks in the media before it happened. PVL just pushes it through without asking anyone else like he normally does

It hasn’t happened yet. The competition doesn’t start until next week. I’m pretty sure they have been given due notice. You may not like V’landys style, but the refs have been given notice of when the changes are to take place. The 28th May.

Just because the competition hasn’t started doesn’t mean the changes haven’t been made. It was announced officials quite a bit ago now. That’s when the changes were made o

 

[mike]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

I think they were given at least 4 weeks notice.

I don’t think so. It wasn’t even talked about for four weeks in the media before it happened. PVL just pushes it through without asking anyone else like he normally does

It hasn’t happened yet. The competition doesn’t start until next week. I’m pretty sure they have been given due notice. You may not like V’landys style, but the refs have been given notice of when the changes are to take place. The 28th May.

Just because the competition hasn’t started doesn’t mean the changes haven’t been made. It was announced officials quite a bit ago now. That’s when the changes were made o

They were announced a while ago but the changes don’t take effect until the competition restarts, 28th May.

 

[mike]

Just to be clear, when you announce that operational changes are going to take place at some future date, that is giving notice of those operational changes.

 

[JC99]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

I think they were given at least 4 weeks notice.

I don’t think so. It wasn’t even talked about for four weeks in the media before it happened. PVL just pushes it through without asking anyone else like he normally does

It hasn’t happened yet. The competition doesn’t start until next week. I’m pretty sure they have been given due notice. You may not like V’landys style, but the refs have been given notice of when the changes are to take place. The 28th May.

Just because the competition hasn’t started doesn’t mean the changes haven’t been made. It was announced officials quite a bit ago now. That’s when the changes were made o

They were announced a while ago but the changes don’t take effect until the competition restarts, 28th May.

I’m sure those part time refs that lost their jobs due to the changes weren’t left to wait until May 28 though...

Fact is the refs are saying PVL didn’t go through the right process before making the changes and they’re willing to take that to court. Hopefully it’s sorted before round 3 starts otherwise we will be using replacement refs which will be horrible.

 

[Geo]

I wonder if Belinda will get to Ref a game by herself..

 

[mike]

The refs have a ratifed Enterprise Bargaining Agreement with the NRL, which they say has been altered without due negotiation or consultation. They are well within their rights to have the validity of the NRL decision tested. And, good on them for doing it.

Don’t bother. People seem to forget that refs are employees with rights, people don’t give a crap about them simply because they’re refs. It’s disgusting to be honest, they’re just like all of us.

An Enterprise Agreement doesn’t mean things are not allowed to change. As long as they, the refs, are appropriately compensated. A business is allowed to restructure if it feels it is in its best interest and ensures its future.

You’re right. Problem is there was no compensation, the refs weren’t given any notice about it and there have been no real reasons given to them as to why they’re changing to one ref. The refs union definitely has a case here, if they didn’t why would they bother taking it to court?

I think they were given at least 4 weeks notice.

I don’t think so. It wasn’t even talked about for four weeks in the media before it happened. PVL just pushes it through without asking anyone else like he normally does

It hasn’t happened yet. The competition doesn’t start until next week. I’m pretty sure they have been given due notice. You may not like V’landys style, but the refs have been given notice of when the changes are to take place. The 28th May.

Just because the competition hasn’t started doesn’t mean the changes haven’t been made. It was announced officials quite a bit ago now. That’s when the changes were made o

They were announced a while ago but the changes don’t take effect until the competition restarts, 28th May.

I’m sure those part time refs that lost their jobs due to the changes weren’t left to wait until May 28 though...

Fact is the refs are saying PVL didn’t go through the right process before making the changes and they’re willing to take that to court. Hopefully it’s sorted before round 3 starts otherwise we will be using replacement refs which will be horrible.

As long as the law is followed it will. First step was arbitration, V’landys walked out I believe. So it will be up to the commission to decide.

 

[Geo]

I wonder if Belinda will get to Ref a game by herself..

And, I assume you think that's appropriate that she does? Why wouldn't she be appointed to do that?

In all her games so far Belinda has been the pocket ref...so you would think the 8 other refs of which some do more than one game a weekend as the main.... would then be the one ref..with the rest running the touchlines..

 

[WT2K]

Interim NRL CEO Andrew Abdo has confirmed the competition will kick off next week regardless of whether there is one or two referees officiating games.

A battle between the referees union and the NRL will continue on Friday with Abdo hopeful of finalising an agreement before arbitration over the weekend. Professional Rugby League Match Officials (PRLMO) are up in arms about the NRL’s plan to reduce on-field referees from two to one for the remainder of the season, citing they were given little or no consideration before the decision was made.

A mediation with Fair Work Commission on Tuesday failed to reach a resolution.

“We are in ongoing dialogue with referees and we hope to resolve the matter (on Thursday or Friday),” Abdo said.

“If not, we have arbitration that will happen over the weekend.

“Either way we’ll have an answer at the end of the weekend or on Monday.

“We’re confident we will have kick off on May 28 and whether it’s one ref or two refs, that’s a matter for Fair Work Australia and for ourselves and the referees to decide.”

The NRL has guaranteed 22 full-time referees will be employed beyond this year. However, with just seven days until the NRL season kicks off in Brisbane, any delay in the process could threaten round three.

PRLMO chair Silvio Del Vecchio has publicly declared referees will not hold up the start of the season with strike action although it remains an option.

“At this stage there’s no talk of any strike action from the refs, we’re just settling a few issues that they have brought to the surface,” Abdo said. “We’re confident if we haven’t settled this before arbitration, then following arbitration we will be in a situation where our full-time refs will be taking the field on Thursday.”

(Fox Sports)

 

[Geo]

Sack Abdo and Kick Manly out..

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Only a bloke named Silvio del Vecchio could represent the referees.