Overrated Benji - Nothing has changed

[Defiant]

You can't deny he killed it with a proper no 7 next to him.

His played more of his career without a decent half or even worse, forced to play 7 and organize thanks to the nutty professor.

 

[Newtown]

Bonstonker - Oh thanks for proving my point…Fitzy copped the most anyone has ever copped (much deserved too) on this forum and STILL there were hords of people defending him!!!!

I've been hammering Sheens for the last 4 years and many of you were defending me and calling me disloyal....FINALLY, hes gone....he was sacked 3 or 4 years too late!

So who was right there? Im not too shy to say it....BUT I TOLD YOU SO!

Look, i hope Benji proves me wrong....but i just cant see it....Hes overrated, self absorbed, cracks me up when he leads the haka for NZ and tries to look scary (like Eazy E said to snoop, "you're only 60 pounds when you're wet and wearin' boots"), makes toooooo many mistakes, wrong options, cant close out a game....gee, where do I stop?

I really hope he proves you wrong too.

 

[Guest]

To those who dont rate or want Benji anymore…who would you want at 5/8?

Please dont say Sirronen, that kid is miles off.
Anasta? Possibly but he cant do what Benji can for us.
One of the 20's players? Not yet for mine.

The fact is Benji is by far our best option and only as far back as 2011 was creating havoc out there. 2012 was a bludger of a year for him as it was for all our stars. He had plenty of partners in crime including Ellis (who I wouldnt have fed last year), Moltzen (who didnt play like a first grader), Tuqiri (who was useless beyond words) and Rowdy (who I would have dropped). Sheens had a massive influence on his 2012 form and deserved the criticism he copped and his resultant sacking.

You are all jumping the gun over a glorified trial game and getting far too worked up. Let the bloke have a chance to show us what the off season has resulted in. That All star game is ridiculous and I dont blame him for not giving it his all. He is saving that for his club...which you all support - therefore he is saving that form for you.
Benji will be a lot better this year...I really do believe that.

sirro is more than capable of playing #6…

like i mentioned in my other thread, people have to stop blaming OTHERS for benjis poor form. even for NZ and in All Stars, he plays average. number 6 is not his best position, the inconsistency demonstrates that.

he has had chances for years.. he went through the period wit injury and we all accepted it would take him a while to hit back. but that was 2009\. its now 2013 and are still not getting the consistent performances we should out of the so called best.

hes an amazing player... just not a 6...

Oh please…If Benji isn't a 6 then what is he? He's not a 7, he's not a 9, please don't say he's a centre because his defence isn't up to it, and nor is he a fullback.

 

[Newtown]

May be he is the prop we are looking for.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

we had Fifita & let him go.

 

[mtd]

Oh please…If Benji isn't a 6 then what is he? He's not a 7, he's not a 9, please don't say he's a centre because his defence isn't up to it, and nor is he a fullback.

how can you say that? have you seen him play fullback, centre or hooker?

we have PERSISTED with players in positions, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. i personally dont think this is working when we compare his impact of today vs yesteryear.

just because a player was once in X position doesnt mean they need to be there the rest of their career.

you, like many, are too close minded on this issue. the "electric" benji marshall is barely existent any more. how often does he change games? make crazy plays, insane breaks - look like the old freak we once knew? rarely… its too hard when he's getting the ball 2 wide and taking on a well drilled and fit defensive line. if interchange was reduced to only 6 per game, sure, play him at five eight so he can capitalise on the exhaustion of other players. but at present, its useless.

put him in a position with SPACE and 1 on 1 or 2 on 2 opportunities (e.g. centre, hooker) and i guarantee he will step it up ten notches.

he can play attack in centre or hooker, defend on the wing. no issue there - he there when we won in 05.

he might go ok at 6 this year, but when we have talent such as sirronen, miller and moltzen to fill the halves void - we should be looking at what is best for benjis game... because an inform marshall generally means an in form tigers..

 

[pHyR3]

Putting him in space IS putting him in 6, at 7 he was far too cramped and had to take way to much control of the team which he doesn't want to do. Putting him at centre creates defensive holes and with Farah and Luani to replace him 9 isn't an option. He was great at 6 in 2011, only 18 months ago and he played badly at 7 and when he didn't have a halves partner. Give him miller for many a game, miller steps up and boom you have an amazing halves combo and probably a great team with it.

 

[Drewby]

Not saying that there is an agenda on this forum, im simply saying that the majority of people will blindly support the view of the club, moderators or admins.

Or perhaps those who have a different opinion to yours are right and you're wrong.
By the way, those who disagree with you just happen to include the MAJORITY of expert League analysts and the MAJORITY of NRL followers.

But I guess YOU being wrong is not very likely, is it?

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[mtd]

Putting him in space IS putting him in 6, at 7 he was far too cramped and had to take way to much control of the team which he doesn't want to do. Putting him at centre creates defensive holes and with Farah and Luani to replace him 9 isn't an option. He was great at 6 in 2011, only 18 months ago and he played badly at 7 and when he didn't have a halves partner. Give him miller for many a game, miller steps up and boom you have an amazing halves combo and probably a great team with it.

i hope ur right…
i really do...
but i still think he has more space on kick returns, scooting from dummy half, wrong footing a centre and setting up the winger than he does at 6 or 7\. he is taking on the WHOLE defensive line, not just 1 or 2 players.
anyway, as long as we are winning, i dont really care.

 

[mtd]

Or perhaps those who have a different opinion to yours are right and you're wrong.
By the way, those who disagree with you just happen to include the MAJORITY of expert League analysts and the MAJORITY of NRL followers.

But I guess YOU being wrong is not very likely, is it?

its posts like this that support exactly what is being said above…

its not about being right or wrong... its about original thought, having your own view and opinions.

there ALOT of intelligent league brains out there not involved at a NRL level. ..

 

[Tbone]

Marshall to hooker? So many problems with that suggestion in my mind. What would you do with farah? Marshall to be expected to make 35 tackles a game?

 

[Tbone]

Trying to validate a call from 2009 to sack sheens by virtue of a bad 2012 and his eventual sacking then doesn't prove the point. 2010 and 2011 were good years. 2005 aside, they were the best years for the club or it's former constituents in 20 years. At some point sheens went from a footy genius, to eccentric, to losing touch with the modern game all together. I think the club got the timing of the decision to part with sheens at the end of last season right personally. Too early and too many unknowns to make a call on where the team or certain players are at right now. Onward and upward.

 

[system]

Totally agree with Black and Gold, Marshall needs to lose 15kgs and risk injury rather than be big and slow, speed was his x factor.
Dont understand how paid trainers can't see this????

I don't think bento would be on board with risking injury to himself going back to a twig!!! Would u?!

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[tigersrule4life]

Marshall to hooker? So many problems with that suggestion in my mind. What would you do with farah? Marshall to be expected to make 35 tackles a game?

Why move the best hooker in the world anyways just leave it how it is Marshall 6 Miller 7 Farah that is how the postions are meant to be.

 

[system]

You're entitled to your opinion B&G, but the thinly veiled swipe at the moderators and administrators who volunteer their time and effort to keep this place running for members like you, is uncalled for and unappreciated.

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[system]

Marshall to hooker? So many problems with that suggestion in my mind. What would you do with farah? Marshall to be expected to make 35 tackles a game?

Why move the best hooker in the world anyways just leave it how it is Marshall 6 Miller 7 Farah that is how the postions are meant to be.

Agree

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[Year_of_the_Tiger]

The best player in the world for 2010 and 2011\. A bad season for the team, and his stats were still great, but yes 2012 was not his best. Write this guy off to your own peril!

 

[Black_Orange_White]

I love Benji but I love the Tigers more. Right now Marshall is approaching liability status. If he becomes one, he should leave. No one is bigger than the team. I'm going to give him a chance under a new coach.

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[tigers13]

I have been banging on to my mates about the fact that Benji is highly overrated and a liability for years. The original post was bang on the money. If you think differently then you haven't been watching the same games that I have been. He needs to take a leaf out of Thurston's book, and give 100% on every play, both in attack and defense. It infuriates me to see how little regard he has for possession. Some players would work their behinds off in defense to make amends, not Benji though. He seems quite happy for the forwards to carry the load and do the work there. There is no doubt this heavy defensive burden blunts the attacking ability of Farah in the latter stages of games.

I really hope that the reports that Potter makes decisions solely on what is best for the team and that egos and reputations are ignored turn out to be true. If it is, then Benji had better show a hell of a lot more desire, courage, patience and intelligence or he'll find himself in reserve grade quick smart.

 

[happy_tiger]

Totally agree with Black and Gold, Marshall needs to lose 15kgs and risk injury rather than be big and slow, speed was his x factor.
Dont understand how paid trainers can't see this????

I don't think bento would be on board with risking injury to himself going back to a twig!!! Would u?!

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He tackles at the moment like his arms are twigs anyway

Might as well get his mobility and speed back at the same time

15kgs is crazy though 5-7kgs would probably do the job