Packer & Reynolds

@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225606) said:
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225599) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225592) said:
Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

TT - we get what you are saying. Because you have said it in every post.

JR was not required. You sound like a broken record.

We understand, we do not have dementia.

He , along with the other two dopes, need to rack off, the sooner the better.
 
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225815) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225606) said:
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225599) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225592) said:
Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

TT - we get what you are saying. Because you have said it in every post.

JR was not required. You sound like a broken record.

We understand, we do not have dementia.

He , along with the other two dopes, need to rack off, the sooner the better.

And thats your opinion Russ which your entitled to...have I broken any forum rules by repeating my main arguement...I dont care if they go tommorrow that is not the crux of the argument...
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225819) said:
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225815) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225606) said:
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225599) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225592) said:
Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

TT - we get what you are saying. Because you have said it in every post.

JR was not required. You sound like a broken record.

We understand, we do not have dementia.

He , along with the other two dopes, need to rack off, the sooner the better.

And thats your opinion Russ which your entitled to...have I broken any forum rules by repeating my main arguement...I dont care if they go tommorrow that is not the crux of the argument...

The only thing you've broken is the B, R, O, K and Y keys on your keyboard.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225820) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225819) said:
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225815) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225606) said:
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225599) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225592) said:
Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

TT - we get what you are saying. Because you have said it in every post.

JR was not required. You sound like a broken record.

We understand, we do not have dementia.

He , along with the other two dopes, need to rack off, the sooner the better.

And thats your opinion Russ which your entitled to...have I broken any forum rules by repeating my main arguement...I dont care if they go tommorrow that is not the crux of the argument...

The only thing you've broken is the B, R, O, K and Y keys on your keyboard.

no mate their fine...
 
@diedpretty said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225801) said:
So the usual "Tigers" greats have weighed in with their unwanted opinions.


NRL 2020: Tigers legends call for Josh Reynolds, Russell Packer to be stood down
Dean Ritchie, Fatima Kdouh, The Daily Telegraph
September 7, 2020 5:56pm
Subscriber only

Tigers legend Benny Elias has dramatically called for AWOL Wests Tigers players to be kicked out of the club.

“Unless there was a death in the family, there is no excuse,” said Elias, who played 234 games for Balmain between 1982 and 1994.

The Daily Telegraph revealed Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer abandoned teammates at halftime last Saturday by walking out and missing Wests Tigers’ remarkable late win over Manly at Lottoland.

Injured utility Michael Chee Kam also left Brookvale.

Club management and the players met on Monday afternoon to discuss the embarrassing behaviour which has prompted criticism from Tigers greats Elias, Steve Roach and Garry Jack.

There were no sanctions against the players, who on Monday elected against commenting publicly.

“There’s no Golden Books story with a happy ending,” Elias said. “Unless there was a death in the family, there is no excuse. Other than that, it’s inexcusable.

“It’s the wrong thing, it’s not part of the mateship act and it’s not the honourable thing to do. There’s not one positive in what they have done.

“I’m being brutal here but I’d tell them to pack their packs and tell them they’re not part of our team. See you later.

“If they want to pack their bags at halftime and walk out then I say keep walking. That’s my message – keep walking.

“If you don’t want to stick around during the tough times then we don’t want you here during the good times. I can’t be more brutal than that.

“This is a club and we all stick together. It’s just disappointing. For the life of me I can’t see a positive out of it. I try and look for positives in everything, as you know, but there’s just no excuse.”

Given they weren’t playing, Reynolds and Packer did not breach any rules by leaving. Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire admitted the “perception” was poor.

“We were struggling big time at halftime (behind 20-12) and that’s when you need your senior people around you – even if they just see you in the dressing room – it’s a comfort blanket,” Elias said.

“’Madge’ (Maguire) would be very disappointed. The only positive was that when they weren’t there, the team turned things around and won.

“Even the young kids stick around and watch the main game after they have finished and they’re not even part of the team. You stick together. Arthritis? (Packer’s excuse) Please.

“People who have snapped hamstrings and broken arms still stick around until the end because you’re part of a team. They are our own and you stick side-by-side through good and bad.”

An angry Jack said: “It’s not the attitude you want. The highly paid big names should set the example. They were cold … please. It’s a gee-up surely. It’s bullshit.

“We’ve got three weeks to go and you want all hands on deck. I’d stand them down for the year. We’re a team. We work together. It’s a terrible image. In our day all three grades never left until full-time in the main game.”

It is understood some other injured Wests Tigers players didn’t attend the game.

Wests Tigers halfback Luke Brooks has weighed into the controversy surrounding Russell Packer and Josh Reynolds after it was revealed the pair left Saturday night’s match during half time.

Brooks revealed he only found out the club’s highest paid players didn’t stick around to see the Tigers 34-32 gallant come-from-behind win against Manly after it was reported in News Corp.

But the 25-year-old said neither player had anything to apologise for and if the Tigers weren’t fighting to have their season the walkout would not have made the news.

“Not at all. They weren’t required to be there so they don’t have to be there. It doesn’t affect us playing, you don’t even notice that they left. To me personally, I don’t really care,” Brooks said.

“They have our full support so it’s a story that has been blown out of proportion. Because of where we are on the ladder, little stories become bigger stories and that’s frustrating.”

Veteran forward Elijah Taylor said the actions of Reynolds and Packer did not reflect poorly on the Concord club’s culture.

“We didn’t find out about it until this morning. They’ve both got families - our culture is strong here, we showed that on the weekend in how we performed,” Taylor said.

“We’ve got a culture here that works hard for each other and turns up for each other.”

Balmain legend Gary Jack has called for the duo to be stood down but Taylor doesn’t believe the players, who trained on Monday morning, broke any rules that warranted punishment.


“I don’t know what’s going to happen (to them),” Taylor said.

“We just had training. They were training hard … it was a pretty tough session.

“Not at all (do they need to apologise). They’ve both got families – it’s a game of footy. We watch footy every day, we live and breathe footy.

“Some of the squad sometimes don’t come to the game because it’s on the other side of the city.”


Another non Wests Tigers entity telling the club what to do. Go jump in the lake.
 
@4jtigers said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225805) said:
@diedpretty said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225801) said:
“It’s the wrong thing, it’s not part of the mateship act and it’s not the honourable thing to do. There’s not one positive in what they have done.

Benny quoting the mateship act? Balmain Leagues Club says hello and wants your mateship act... and talking about being honourable? ppfffttt lol

can someone please tell him to shut up... if I see him on the streets I would yell at him to shut up

He is so honorable towards the club unless it's about money. When it's about money he is happy to scam the club with at best extremely poor business practices.
 
@Russell said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225815) said:
He , along with the other two dopes, need to rack off, the sooner the better.

Yep. This incident doesn't really change much though does it. These guys are overpaid and we have to get rid of them to develop a competitive footy team.

At least Chee-Kam isn't overpaid.
 
@Earl said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225824) said:
@4jtigers said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225805) said:
@diedpretty said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225801) said:
“It’s the wrong thing, it’s not part of the mateship act and it’s not the honourable thing to do. There’s not one positive in what they have done.

Benny quoting the mateship act? Balmain Leagues Club says hello and wants your mateship act... and talking about being honourable? ppfffttt lol

can someone please tell him to shut up... if I see him on the streets I would yell at him to shut up

He is so honorable towards the club unless it's about money. When it's about money he is happy to scam the club with at best extremely poor business practices.

Teflon
 
@4jtigers said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225800) said:
@Furious1 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225791) said:
The whole thing is really simple. What they did according to the club didn't break any rules. What it did do was give the very media that we all get annoyed at something to hammer this club over once again. The actions of those players has once again allowed the media to write the usual dribble and create a perception of a poor culture. A hell of a lot of people don't bother reading articles or chasing facts and only see headlines. There is one perception of our club at the moment that screams at most Rugby League people and that is BASKET CASE. Regardless of what the players say, Madge says or Pascoe and Lee say, players departing at halftime is a terrible, terrible look and that single action that has been dramatised by media and took only minutes to do, yet creates reputational damage that can take months if not years to repair.

already repaired with me, it didn't bother me that much and I am sure they have already made amends - the "too cold" excuse can be made up too so I wouldn't buy what the media says... I am sure the players themselves can sort it out amongst each other and to see the resolve in yesterday's news (Ch9) is good enough for me and well done

I agree with what most is saying here and I agree where TrueTiger is coming from as well

Mate it's repaired with me too given the clubs response, however the public perception is still basket case and is being ably helped along by media. That's all my point is. Its very hard to paint a "good culture" picture that is believable when 2 of your highest paid players depart at half time and unfortunately that perception interferes with recruitment which leads us on this never ending merry-go-round.
 
@the_third said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225698) said:
As much as I hate to say it, buzz was right on 360 today. They all were.
It shouldn’t have happened
Hit with a feather afterwards
Shouldn’t put brooks and garner up to defend it
Should have been Pascoe and lee
Didn’t even set a rule following this
Leadership was bad from management

Do us all a favour and don't quote Buzz or any of those numpties on 360. They need to generate daily NRL content, they'll provide a sermon on anything and everything.

I'm not interested what media pundits "think"; this issue in particular is a mild item and the club can deal with it however they see fit. Pascoe and Lee already did comment in the paper, then the media asked the players at the presser. No issue.

No offence to you personally but you are giving extra air time to Class-A gibberers.
 
@Lauren said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225725) said:
I love when this place is a medium for fans to converse or reflect on any significant club/team/fan issues but lately it’s become a bit of receptacle for some unforgiving, over-sensitive and overbearing behaviour.
Because a media outlet is spreading the news of certain players people see red and wish to further ignite their own distaste, and that of others, of these players… on a place that already isn’t feeling too optimistic about our year.
Some people are as transparent as Buzz and co. and are misplacing their outrage. It’s well known that many don’t want them at the club but to make an attempt to relate their behaviour to our club organisation, team culture, their commitment, professionalism and loyalty and whatever else is absurd. It’s the biggest overreaction I’ve seen on the WTF and more a reflection of your own attitudes.
Sports journalists will always target the most reactive fans and you keep falling for it hook, line and sinker.

Many many thumbs up Lauren. People getting goaded by morons on TV.
 
This is not about whether they broke club rules...it is clear they did not.

The absolute bottom line is that Packer, Chee Kam and Reynolds were sitting in the ground watching us...and,with us down at half time, someone has said "geez it is cold. Let's leave"...and three blokes have gone "yeah, let's get out of here"...whilst their mates were playing a game.

"It is cold" was more important than "the fellas are playing, I am not leaving until they are done. We can still win this".

**It...is...cold..**.was the dominant thought.

People can judge whether that is right or wrong by their own standards.
 
Five hundred plus posts and my only contribution is that it has always seemed to be Much Ado About Nothing, so I'll leave others to it.
 
Benny is the media’s go to man when they want a headline. This is the same guy who was knee deep in the Balmain leagues club fiasco and was also the guy advocating for the club to relocate to Perth.

He is the last person who should casting aspersions on people’s character
 
Maybe we should all refer to the club’s mission statement in regards to all this.......oh wait, we don’t have one.
 
@helmesy said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225881) said:
Maybe we should all refer to the club’s mission statement in regards to all this.......oh wait, we don’t have one.

Mission Statement? To win the grand final every single year, that's our mission!
 
My thoughts Madge should grind them into the ground until they want to leave. But of course they will pull medical excuses before this could happen, bludger foot comes to mind.
 
@jirskyr said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225853) said:
@the_third said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225698) said:
As much as I hate to say it, buzz was right on 360 today. They all were.
It shouldn’t have happened
Hit with a feather afterwards
Shouldn’t put brooks and garner up to defend it
Should have been Pascoe and lee
Didn’t even set a rule following this
Leadership was bad from management

Do us all a favour and don't quote Buzz or any of those numpties on 360. They need to generate daily NRL content, they'll provide a sermon on anything and everything.

I'm not interested what media pundits "think"; this issue in particular is a mild item and the club can deal with it however they see fit. Pascoe and Lee already did comment in the paper, then the media asked the players at the presser. No issue.

No offence to you personally but you are giving extra air time to Class-A gibberers.


Despite what you think they were right - there is a first time for everything. If you haven’t seen it - your comment is as irrelevant as their opinions
 
@the_third said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225955) said:
@jirskyr said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225853) said:
@the_third said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225698) said:
As much as I hate to say it, buzz was right on 360 today. They all were.
It shouldn’t have happened
Hit with a feather afterwards
Shouldn’t put brooks and garner up to defend it
Should have been Pascoe and lee
Didn’t even set a rule following this
Leadership was bad from management

Do us all a favour and don't quote Buzz or any of those numpties on 360. They need to generate daily NRL content, they'll provide a sermon on anything and everything.

I'm not interested what media pundits "think"; this issue in particular is a mild item and the club can deal with it however they see fit. Pascoe and Lee already did comment in the paper, then the media asked the players at the presser. No issue.

No offence to you personally but you are giving extra air time to Class-A gibberers.


Despite what you think they were right - there is a first time for everything. If you haven’t seen it - your comment is as irrelevant as their opinions

"Despite what you think they were right". Opinions are not right or wrong, they are just opinions. What I am asking is for people to consider refraining from putting Buzz Rothfield's opinions in this forum, whether you share them or disagree with them.

This forum mid-week has become a knee-jerk reaction centre to the endless and pointless opinions of rugby league pundits, many of whom are complete morons - Paul Kent, Pooper, Chammas, Buzz, Fittler, Soward, Weedler etc. They need to generate content so they are constantly working on nonsense material of no consequence.

I'd rather read the opinions of real forum persons than the flakes who get paid to make stuff up to fill column and TV space.
 
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