@westTAHger said:
Sorry Glen that went out with vinyl records and flared jeans.
Does not apply any more.
"Its not my fault" "Its never my fault" "Its always someone elses fault" is the go today
Packer Sentenced to 2 Years Jail!!
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Sorry Glen that went out with vinyl records and flared jeans.
Does not apply any more.
"Its not my fault" "Its never my fault" "Its always someone elses fault" is the go today
@happy tiger said:
Some or all of that might be true, apart from the fact that violent crime has in fact been falling for years as the NSW police stats clearly illustrate : http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/about_us/crime_statistics/number_of_criminal_incidents_recorded_by_the_nsw_police_force_per_100,000_population_by_year_and_offence_type
Don't believe everything you read in the papers.
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@2041 said:
OK what year did we do the gun amnesty ??
These figures can be doctored obviously .
Break and Enters will have reduced due to the lack of cash that people carry at home / business than we did in 1990
Robberies will have increased to get instant cash
The world has changed a great deal since 1990
@happy tiger said:
So when the facts don't back your views you just deny the facts? In 2012 robberies with or without a weapon in NSW were all massively down (60-70%) on levels from a decade or so ago. Ok, gun amnesty. That was in 2009 and it doesn't seem to have made much significant impact over and above a trend which had already clearly emerged: robberies with a firearm peaked in 1997 and have fallen consistently since 2002\. A similar pattern is clear in the data for robberies with a weapon other than a firearm and unarmed robberies.
Meanwhile assault is down about 20% since the late 1990s. The only type of serious crime to have increased is sexual assault. These are facts, not opinions.
Now as it happens I agree that it seems implausible that robbery has fallen by two thirds in barely a decade. But I want more real evidence about what's actually happening before I accept a media narrative which is completely contrary to the evidence we do have.
happy_tiger
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Original gun amnesty was in the 90's just after the Port Arthur massacre
Tim Sheens
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Go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200\. Poor timing for Packer as he was most probably a prime scapegoat in the current social/political climate.
I really like the term "coward punch" being championed by the parents of that poor young fellow that was attacked recently by that other grub. The power of words should not be underestimated. The word "illegal" being used in relation to asylum seekers, even though it is blatantly untrue, is a prime example.
I really like the term "coward punch" being championed by the parents of that poor young fellow that was attacked recently by that other grub. The power of words should not be underestimated. The word "illegal" being used in relation to asylum seekers, even though it is blatantly untrue, is a prime example.
@happy tiger said:
Your point being? Robberies of all types have been dropping steadily since shortly after 2000\. There doesn't seem to be any correlation between gun amnesties and the rate of robberies with or without firearms, which dare I suggest might imply that amnesties are yet another media sideshow.
@formerguest said:
Definitely poor timing. Oh well someone had to be the first. Packer is lucky he didn't kill the bloke, imagine what he'd be up for then.
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@formerguest said:
"King hit" has always been a dog act. It was never ever something to be proud of.
I can see some people thinking the term is some sort of glorification….and maybe the slang is getting somehow twisted in a way other slang terms do.
The media can do a service here in calling these incidents 'cowards punches' if that helps curb it - I dout it tho - but both terms to me are one and the same
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Packer got what he deserved IMO. There's no place for this type of behaviour in society IMO, too many young blokes ending up brain dead or worse these days.
To be honest Ink, I hope the justice system makes the whole idea of hitting someone when they aren't expecting it unpalatable by imposing significant gaol sentences. Hopefully a high profile conviction like Packer will have an effect on these part time Kings Cross MMA heroes that there is severe consequences for your actions.
It is not the media's responsibility to take the lead on this, it's been a problem for a long time and it's about time the justice system caught up.
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It is not the media's responsibility to take the lead on this, it's been a problem for a long time and it's about time the justice system caught up.
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happy_tiger
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Still remember the David Hookes incident and that is almost 10 years ago now
Seems like we haven't got too far since
Seems like we haven't got too far since
Tim Sheens
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I certainly understand as Ink does that the terms mean the same thing. In the broad community however, and probably more so amongst the lesser educated males, "king hit" is a chest pumping type term meaning they landed a real good one.
I absolutely despise any of these weak bastards that attack others, particularly when as part of a group. I copped a few kicks opposite the Coke sign one night years ago when I layed/jumped on top of this poor young country boy with his girlfriend that was set upon by five or six guys. Had a big blue with my partner at the time afterwards, over risking myself and was a bit tender for a few days, but it was worth it. He was taken away by ambulance, but was okay other than a couple of fractures.
I absolutely despise any of these weak bastards that attack others, particularly when as part of a group. I copped a few kicks opposite the Coke sign one night years ago when I layed/jumped on top of this poor young country boy with his girlfriend that was set upon by five or six guys. Had a big blue with my partner at the time afterwards, over risking myself and was a bit tender for a few days, but it was worth it. He was taken away by ambulance, but was okay other than a couple of fractures.
Eye_Of_Da_Tiger
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These guys need to learn a lesson before they kill somebody. The game doesn't need idiots like this one
Saturnalia
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Chemical castration is the answer.
tig_prmz
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@Peaches said:
I don't think it's on the decline- if anything it's getting better. People of all sexual orientation, race and colour are being accepted in all parts of the world. Don't forget WWII was just over half a century ago. That's when there was lack of respect for the lives of other people but now it's getting better.
As far as this incident is concerned, the government can't do anymore than what it's already doing re alcohol and drug abuse lessons in schools and even the NRL has yearly programs.
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weststigers
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Etiquette and Manners should form part of the school curriculum. Furthermore, social education should be taught in years 11 and 12 to instill some sort of sense in these kids before they hit the street.
Thirdly, Recovery Buses monitored by Police should be setup for people who have been kicked out of clubs for being overly intoxicated and/or are found to be intoxicated on the street. Now security have a place to take these people and get back to their job. Nurses and paramedics should be on duty to make sure they are in a sober enough state to go home on Police orders - The fine should be $350 which would cover the extra staff and a ride home immediately.
The reality is, we need to stop these people before they get a chance to attack the public - education then systems and procedures for getting these idiots of the street.
Thirdly, Recovery Buses monitored by Police should be setup for people who have been kicked out of clubs for being overly intoxicated and/or are found to be intoxicated on the street. Now security have a place to take these people and get back to their job. Nurses and paramedics should be on duty to make sure they are in a sober enough state to go home on Police orders - The fine should be $350 which would cover the extra staff and a ride home immediately.
The reality is, we need to stop these people before they get a chance to attack the public - education then systems and procedures for getting these idiots of the street.
