Pascoe Held to Account

[avocadoontoast]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.

Didn’t he admit guilt?

 

[rustycage]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.

Didn’t he admit guilt?

Irrelevant. He accepted the punishment. Copped it.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.

“The games rules are very, very clear on these arrangements. Any commitment to make such a payment should have been disclosed and it should have been included in the salary cap.

“The club failed to do this. The club **then compounded its conduct by submitting a misleading application to the NRL** in relation to the salary cap treatment of money paid to Robbie when he left the club.

“We feel like the club and Justin have misled the NRL around this ambassador agreement and we have to provide consistent sanctions on individuals and clubs throughout.

So after caught out tried to cover it up but submitting a misleading application??????

He never copped anything on the chin was most likely stood down on full pay for 6 months or used entitlements, they never miss out or are accountable.

 

[avocadoontoast]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.

Didn’t he admit guilt?


Irrelevant. He accepted the punishment. Copped it.

What else was he going to do? Tbh I don’t think Pascoe has accepted responsibility for anything he’s done, and there’s been a couple of howlers.

 

[rustycage]

Mine is a simple opinion. I'm sure plenty agree. No axe to grind here.

 

[Tigerbuck63]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.

Didn’t he admit guilt?


Irrelevant. He accepted the punishment. Copped it.

What else was he going to do? Tbh I don’t think Pascoe has accepted responsibility for anything he’s done, and there’s been a couple of howlers.

We should be looking for a new CEO under his leadership we have not played finals - that's what the fans expect especially when they and the Media build it up each year.
He was mates with Cleary and signed him that's another howler, i think he can't wait for this week to finish...

 

[Needaname]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.


“The games rules are very, very clear on these arrangements. Any commitment to make such a payment should have been disclosed and it should have been included in the salary cap.

“The club failed to do this. The club **then compounded its conduct by submitting a misleading application to the NRL** in relation to the salary cap treatment of money paid to Robbie when he left the club.

“We feel like the club and Justin have misled the NRL around this ambassador agreement and we have to provide consistent sanctions on individuals and clubs throughout.

So after caught out tried to cover it up but submitting a misleading application??????

He never copped anything on the chin was most likely stood down on full pay for 6 months or used entitlements, they never miss out or are accountable.

Ahh, just to help you get the story straight.
The misleading application was in regards to clearing Farah from the cap, after he went to Souths. I don’t feel it was misleading at all. They were very direct about how they and stakeholders felt at the time of the debacle Farah and Taylor put the club through and tried to get dispensation.

If your implying that the sentence you quoted was in the more recent time then you’ve understood that wrong.

 

[cochise]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.


“The games rules are very, very clear on these arrangements. Any commitment to make such a payment should have been disclosed and it should have been included in the salary cap.

“The club failed to do this. The club **then compounded its conduct by submitting a misleading application to the NRL** in relation to the salary cap treatment of money paid to Robbie when he left the club.

“We feel like the club and Justin have misled the NRL around this ambassador agreement and we have to provide consistent sanctions on individuals and clubs throughout.

So after caught out tried to cover it up but submitting a misleading application??????

He never copped anything on the chin was most likely stood down on full pay for 6 months or used entitlements, they never miss out or are accountable.

Ahh, just to help you get the story straight.
The misleading application was in regards to clearing Farah from the cap, after he went to Souths. I don’t feel it was misleading at all. They were very direct about how they and stakeholders felt at the time of the debacle Farah and Taylor put the club through and tried to get dispensation.

If your implying that the sentence you quoted was in the more recent time then you’ve understood that wrong.

The NRL found it to be misleading because the club applied for salary cap relief for Farah stating he was a destabilising influence but had a job offer on the table for him after he retired. I can see how that would be viewed as misleading.

 

[Geo]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.


“The games rules are very, very clear on these arrangements. Any commitment to make such a payment should have been disclosed and it should have been included in the salary cap.

“The club failed to do this. The club **then compounded its conduct by submitting a misleading application to the NRL** in relation to the salary cap treatment of money paid to Robbie when he left the club.

“We feel like the club and Justin have misled the NRL around this ambassador agreement and we have to provide consistent sanctions on individuals and clubs throughout.

So after caught out tried to cover it up but submitting a misleading application??????

He never copped anything on the chin was most likely stood down on full pay for 6 months or used entitlements, they never miss out or are accountable.

Ahh, just to help you get the story straight.
The misleading application was in regards to clearing Farah from the cap, after he went to Souths. I don’t feel it was misleading at all. They were very direct about how they and stakeholders felt at the time of the debacle Farah and Taylor put the club through and tried to get dispensation.

If your implying that the sentence you quoted was in the more recent time then you’ve understood that wrong.

The NRL found it to be misleading because the club applied for salary cap relief for Farah stating he was a destabilising influence but had a job offer on the table for him after he retired. I can see how that would be viewed as misleading.

Because the offer to Farah was an inducement to leave for which he would be remunerated at a later date..

Which is fine in itself but then to claim cap relief as a disestablishing figure was misleading..

 

[tigeress]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.

Didn’t he admit guilt?


Irrelevant. He accepted the punishment. Copped it.

What else was he going to do? Tbh I don’t think Pascoe has accepted responsibility for anything he’s done, and there’s been a couple of howlers.


We should be looking for a new CEO under his leadership we have not played finals - that's what the fans expect especially when they and the Media build it up each year.
He was mates with Cleary and signed him that's another howler, i think he can't wait for this week to finish...

Ahhh lets not blame Pascoe for our woes, he probably signs off on deals but it would be up to the football department to choose the player.

Look all we need at this club is a good defensive coach and a decent goal kicker, why the latter hasn't been looked into years ago I'll never know...while we are a poor defensive team and can't kick goals, we cannot expect to get into finals football:astonished:

 

[cochise]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.


“The games rules are very, very clear on these arrangements. Any commitment to make such a payment should have been disclosed and it should have been included in the salary cap.

“The club failed to do this. The club **then compounded its conduct by submitting a misleading application to the NRL** in relation to the salary cap treatment of money paid to Robbie when he left the club.

“We feel like the club and Justin have misled the NRL around this ambassador agreement and we have to provide consistent sanctions on individuals and clubs throughout.

So after caught out tried to cover it up but submitting a misleading application??????

He never copped anything on the chin was most likely stood down on full pay for 6 months or used entitlements, they never miss out or are accountable.

Ahh, just to help you get the story straight.
The misleading application was in regards to clearing Farah from the cap, after he went to Souths. I don’t feel it was misleading at all. They were very direct about how they and stakeholders felt at the time of the debacle Farah and Taylor put the club through and tried to get dispensation.

If your implying that the sentence you quoted was in the more recent time then you’ve understood that wrong.

The NRL found it to be misleading because the club applied for salary cap relief for Farah stating he was a destabilising influence but had a job offer on the table for him after he retired. I can see how that would be viewed as misleading.

Because the offer to Farah was an inducement to leave for which he would be remunerated at a later date..

Which is fine in itself but then to claim cap relief as a disestablishing figure was misleading..

I think they would have been fine if they were just honest with the NRL throughout the entire process, I understand why we were fined.

 

[Geo]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.


“The games rules are very, very clear on these arrangements. Any commitment to make such a payment should have been disclosed and it should have been included in the salary cap.

“The club failed to do this. The club **then compounded its conduct by submitting a misleading application to the NRL** in relation to the salary cap treatment of money paid to Robbie when he left the club.

“We feel like the club and Justin have misled the NRL around this ambassador agreement and we have to provide consistent sanctions on individuals and clubs throughout.

So after caught out tried to cover it up but submitting a misleading application??????

He never copped anything on the chin was most likely stood down on full pay for 6 months or used entitlements, they never miss out or are accountable.

Ahh, just to help you get the story straight.
The misleading application was in regards to clearing Farah from the cap, after he went to Souths. I don’t feel it was misleading at all. They were very direct about how they and stakeholders felt at the time of the debacle Farah and Taylor put the club through and tried to get dispensation.

If your implying that the sentence you quoted was in the more recent time then you’ve understood that wrong.

The NRL found it to be misleading because the club applied for salary cap relief for Farah stating he was a destabilising influence but had a job offer on the table for him after he retired. I can see how that would be viewed as misleading.

Because the offer to Farah was an inducement to leave for which he would be remunerated at a later date..

Which is fine in itself but then to claim cap relief as a disestablishing figure was misleading..

I think they would have been fine if they were just honest with the NRL throughout the entire process, I understand why we were fined.

I don't know any company that would offer someone a job 2 years down the track when the reason you want them to leave is because they are disestablishing to your organisation...

Oh wait Wests Tigers..

 

[cochise]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.


“The games rules are very, very clear on these arrangements. Any commitment to make such a payment should have been disclosed and it should have been included in the salary cap.

“The club failed to do this. The club **then compounded its conduct by submitting a misleading application to the NRL** in relation to the salary cap treatment of money paid to Robbie when he left the club.

“We feel like the club and Justin have misled the NRL around this ambassador agreement and we have to provide consistent sanctions on individuals and clubs throughout.

So after caught out tried to cover it up but submitting a misleading application??????

He never copped anything on the chin was most likely stood down on full pay for 6 months or used entitlements, they never miss out or are accountable.

Ahh, just to help you get the story straight.
The misleading application was in regards to clearing Farah from the cap, after he went to Souths. I don’t feel it was misleading at all. They were very direct about how they and stakeholders felt at the time of the debacle Farah and Taylor put the club through and tried to get dispensation.

If your implying that the sentence you quoted was in the more recent time then you’ve understood that wrong.

The NRL found it to be misleading because the club applied for salary cap relief for Farah stating he was a destabilising influence but had a job offer on the table for him after he retired. I can see how that would be viewed as misleading.

Because the offer to Farah was an inducement to leave for which he would be remunerated at a later date..

Which is fine in itself but then to claim cap relief as a disestablishing figure was misleading..

I think they would have been fine if they were just honest with the NRL throughout the entire process, I understand why we were fined.

I don't know any company that would offer someone a job 2 years down the track when the reason you want them to leave is because they are disestablishing to your organisation...

Oh wait Wests Tigers..

Exactly mate

 

[Rowdy12]

Pascoe’s more concerned with getting his name in the paper then he is improving the club

 

[GNR4LIFE]

He inherited a very good roster that was missing a quality hooker and picked up Api Koraisau as he was on the way out at Manly …thats’ how simple it was

Glad it's that easy. You could do it.

I think Seibold proved it wasn’t.

 

[cochise]

Pascoe’s more concerned with getting his name in the paper then he is improving the club

I really don't see him mentioned in the papers that often.

 

[JC99]

I find it difficult to blame him for us not making finals, he’s not a coach or head of football he’s the CEO, his job is to make sure the club as a business is running smoothly and he’s done a fair job in that regard. Obviously not perfect and he’s made mistakes but overall I think he’s done alright.

 

[cochise]

I find it difficult to blame him for us not making finals, he’s not a coach or head of football he’s the CEO, his job is to make sure the club as a business is running smoothly and he’s done a fair job in that regard. Obviously not perfect and he’s made mistakes but overall I think he’s done alright.

Agreed Josh, I think if the club was a little more transparent with its plans then he would have a lot more support.

 

[JC99]

I find it difficult to blame him for us not making finals, he’s not a coach or head of football he’s the CEO, his job is to make sure the club as a business is running smoothly and he’s done a fair job in that regard. Obviously not perfect and he’s made mistakes but overall I think he’s done alright.

Agreed Josh, I think if the club was a little more transparent with its plans then he would have a lot more support.

Membership numbers, profit, crowd numbers, tv numbers and merchandise sales all went up last year so he must be doing something right.

I’d like to know who handles player contract values and who signs off on them, Pascoe probably wouldn’t know how much a player is worth, would it be Hartigan deciding that stuff?

 

[jirskyr]

"Yes I’m the CEO, I’m responsible for all things that happen at the club, and when things don’t work out as planned, I’ll cop it on the chin."

Hmm..

Contrary to others views

Can't recall him ever copping anything on the chin either.

His suspension is one thing.

He didn’t stand down voluntarily. He was de registered.


He copped it on the chin. Didn't whinge about things and came back with minimal fuss. Even though many strongly disagreed with the ruling.

Didn’t he admit guilt?


Irrelevant. He accepted the punishment. Copped it.

What else was he going to do? Tbh I don’t think Pascoe has accepted responsibility for anything he’s done, and there’s been a couple of howlers.


We should be looking for a new CEO under his leadership we have not played finals - that's what the fans expect especially when they and the Media build it up each year.
He was mates with Cleary and signed him that's another howler, i think he can't wait for this week to finish...

Joe Kelly was Manly CEO during 2015-2016, during which Manly finished 9th and 13th. The season prior to him joining Manly came 2nd in the regular season, so they got much worse during his tenure. Prior to Manly, Kelly was Souths CFO 2007-2014, during which they made the finals 4 of his 8 years, with his final year being the premiership.

Kelly was thenappointed Roosters CEO from 2017 onward, and in 2018 he was suspended for 9 months for being involved in the Manly salary cap scandal. Kelly is STILL Roosters CEO.

So I'm not exactly clear how player performance comes back on the CEO if they are fulfilling their primary business role of increasing the funds available to the club. Joe Kelly, as then example above, had very little history of on-field success and yet was appointed CEO of the most successful club in the comp, at a time where they'd already been minor premiers 3 of the 4 years before he joined (i.e. they were already a successful club before he got there).

Roosters have kept Kelly on despite his huge ban in 2018 and highly negative association with, and penalty from, Manly's rorting. So clearly there is separation between CEO business performance and how the team performs.