Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[GNR4LIFE]

Im just looking forward to the day when this drama is officially over…

A smart club would admit fault, cop the penalty and move on.

Not if that club is in the right. Wests Tigers have to show that they are not there to be the downtrodden club of the NRL. There is nothing smart about being downtrodden because it will continue to happen.

What if you are guilty?

 

[gallagher]

Im just looking forward to the day when this drama is officially over…

A smart club would admit fault, cop the penalty and move on.

Not if that club is in the right. Wests Tigers have to show that they are not there to be the downtrodden club of the NRL. There is nothing smart about being downtrodden because it will continue to happen.

What if you are guilty?

How on earth could the team I support be guilty???? Its not possible!!! Said fans of every cheating team.

 

[balmain boy]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

 

[JD Tiger]

Im just looking forward to the day when this drama is officially over…

A smart club would admit fault, cop the penalty and move on.

Not if that club is in the right. Wests Tigers have to show that they are not there to be the downtrodden club of the NRL. There is nothing smart about being downtrodden because it will continue to happen.

What if you are guilty?

The most successful clubs even when caught, even when proved without a shadow of a doubt to be cheating, still proclaim their innocence! Storm still celebrate their Grand Final wins from the years they were caught cheating.

 

[Telltails]

Being found guilty is not the problem as I see it. It is the severity of the penalty. The NRL can decide to get tough whenever they like, however this penalty is outrageous for a breach that we received no benefit from, and and an accusation by the NRL that it was an act of deception when in fact there is enough evidence to suggest it was anything but.
Using our club as scapegoats when they choose to make a point is not on, and never should be, and just continues to demonstrate the level of discontent with the NRL hierarchy.

 

[diedpretty]

Because news limited.flogs is not the NRL..

Are you sure?

 

[prattenparkchild]

The club might be guilty,might not be also. At this stage in the public forum anyway there is too much in dispute regarding the status of contract, it's off site situation, the circumstances of events and application of penalty between WT and the NRL to just roll over and accept. We need to contest it and not in NRL hq but in a court where legal experts can have their day.

 

[Snake]

Being found guilty is not the problem as I see it. It is the severity of the penalty. The NRL can decide to get tough whenever they like, however this penalty is outrageous for a breach that we received no benefit from, and and an accusation by the NRL that it was an act of deception when in fact there is enough evidence to suggest it was anything but.
Using our club as scapegoats when they choose to make a point is not on, and never should be, and just continues to demonstrate the level of discontent with the NRL hierarchy.

Here lies the problem it is the inconsistency of the justice dealt out !! Whether guilty or not ,justice just can not be pulled out of the hat to suite the day . IMO the so called punishment for our CEO is appalling guilty or not …I can assure you other clubs are hoping this does not end up in the court system as there is a very very large Pandora’s box that can be opened.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Im just looking forward to the day when this drama is officially over…

A smart club would admit fault, cop the penalty and move on.

we are a stubborn mule i guess

And can only hope that we kick like one, as even if there is some guilt, the punishment seems nothing short of ridiculous when compared to others.

 

[Yossarian]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

 

[Geo]

Because news limited.flogs is not the NRL..

Are you sure?

Addendum…news.flogs aren't officially he NRL...

 

[JD Tiger]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

He did refuse to jump, he dug his heels in like none other I have ever seen.

I don't think they missed the point at all. We did ensure that Robbie was paid every cent that we owed him. The position seems to be that an outside sponsorship deal (a TPA) would likely fall through if he left WT, and to compensate Robbie personally for that, WT may have agreed to pay him some funds after his career to cover that lost income.

TPA is meant to be exclusive from the club, and it should not be the responsibility of the club to compensate a player when a TPA deal falls through. If this all went down like has been said, then Robbie screwed us over again, and whoever offered compensation made an idiot mistake if they left evidence of this.

Where is the evidence that this post-career role is intended to compensate Robbie for a lost TPA arrangement? I'm not asking people on the forum for evidence, I'm asking what evidence do the NRL have that this was the case? I guess they think they have something?? Why has it not been leaked, like all this other stuff has been leaked?

 

[cochise]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

He did refuse to jump, he dug his heels in like none other I have ever seen.

I don't think they missed the point at all. We did ensure that Robbie was paid every cent that we owed him. The position seems to be that an outside sponsorship deal (a TPA) would likely fall through if he left WT, and to compensate Robbie personally for that, WT may have agreed to pay him some funds after his career to cover that lost income.

TPA is meant to be exclusive from the club, and it should not be the responsibility of the club to compensate a player when a TPA deal falls through. If this all went down like has been said, then Robbie screwed us over again, and whoever offered compensation made an idiot mistake if they left evidence of this.

Where is the evidence that this post-career role is intended to compensate Robbie for a lost TPA arrangement? I'm not asking people on the forum for evidence, I'm asking what evidence do the NRL have that this was the case? I guess they think they have something?? Why has it not been leaked, like all this other stuff has been leaked?

The NRL don't need evidence the role was to compensate, all they need is evidence of the role as that is all that is needed to prove the Tigers breached the cap.

I'm a little more sympathetic to Robbie in regards to this, why would he leave the club if it would leave him $200K out of pocket? he had every right to stay.

 

[WT2K]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

He did refuse to jump, he dug his heels in like none other I have ever seen.

I don't think they missed the point at all. We did ensure that Robbie was paid every cent that we owed him. The position seems to be that an outside sponsorship deal (a TPA) would likely fall through if he left WT, and to compensate Robbie personally for that, WT may have agreed to pay him some funds after his career to cover that lost income.

TPA is meant to be exclusive from the club, and it should not be the responsibility of the club to compensate a player when a TPA deal falls through. If this all went down like has been said, then Robbie screwed us over again, and whoever offered compensation made an idiot mistake if they left evidence of this.

Where is the evidence that this post-career role is intended to compensate Robbie for a lost TPA arrangement? I'm not asking people on the forum for evidence, I'm asking what evidence do the NRL have that this was the case? I guess they think they have something?? Why has it not been leaked, like all this other stuff has been leaked?

The NRL don't need evidence the role was to compensate, all they need is evidence of the role as that is all that is needed to prove the Tigers breached the cap.

I'm a little more sympathetic to Robbie in regards to this, why would he leave the club if it would leave him $200K out of pocket? he had every right to stay.

I'm sure many would be dragging their heels for 200k. I know I would be.

 

[Yossarian]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

He did refuse to jump, he dug his heels in like none other I have ever seen.

I don't think they missed the point at all. We did ensure that Robbie was paid every cent that we owed him. The position seems to be that an outside sponsorship deal (a TPA) would likely fall through if he left WT, and to compensate Robbie personally for that, WT may have agreed to pay him some funds after his career to cover that lost income.

TPA is meant to be exclusive from the club, and it should not be the responsibility of the club to compensate a player when a TPA deal falls through. If this all went down like has been said, then Robbie screwed us over again, and whoever offered compensation made an idiot mistake if they left evidence of this.

Where is the evidence that this post-career role is intended to compensate Robbie for a lost TPA arrangement? I'm not asking people on the forum for evidence, I'm asking what evidence do the NRL have that this was the case? I guess they think they have something?? Why has it not been leaked, like all this other stuff has been leaked?

He was reluctant but ultimately he did agree to leave once arrangements were suitable.

I don’t see how this is RF’s fault. Who would give up that sort of money? In general yes you’re right, it’s not the club’s responsibility to compensate for lost TPA. But he stood to lose the money through the direct action of the club. So understandably he didn’t want to leave and lose money just to help out JT. But yes your description is pretty much the crux of it.

What evidence do the NRL have? Dunno. But it’s been a forensic investigation by the integrity unit. If there’s no evidence than I’m sure the club will be successful in its legal action.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

What exact date is all this rubbish set down to be appealed/enforced either way? It is not what the club needs for this to be played out any longer than it has to.
In absolutely no circumstance will the NRL admit any fault in all of this we can be certain of that. Those scumbags are not known for their willingness to accept blame or apologize.

 

[sheer64]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

He did refuse to jump, he dug his heels in like none other I have ever seen.

I don't think they missed the point at all. We did ensure that Robbie was paid every cent that we owed him. The position seems to be that an outside sponsorship deal (a TPA) would likely fall through if he left WT, and to compensate Robbie personally for that, WT may have agreed to pay him some funds after his career to cover that lost income.

TPA is meant to be exclusive from the club, and it should not be the responsibility of the club to compensate a player when a TPA deal falls through. If this all went down like has been said, then Robbie screwed us over again, and whoever offered compensation made an idiot mistake if they left evidence of this.

Where is the evidence that this post-career role is intended to compensate Robbie for a lost TPA arrangement? I'm not asking people on the forum for evidence, I'm asking what evidence do the NRL have that this was the case? I guess they think they have something?? Why has it not been leaked, like all this other stuff has been leaked?

**The NRL don't need evidence the role was to compensate, all they need is evidence of the role as that is all that is needed to prove the Tigers breached the cap.**
I'm a little more sympathetic to Robbie in regards to this, why would he leave the club if it would leave him $200K out of pocket? he had every right to stay.

You keep saying we breached the cap. Can you explain where this breach is?

 

[cochise]

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

He did refuse to jump, he dug his heels in like none other I have ever seen.

I don't think they missed the point at all. We did ensure that Robbie was paid every cent that we owed him. The position seems to be that an outside sponsorship deal (a TPA) would likely fall through if he left WT, and to compensate Robbie personally for that, WT may have agreed to pay him some funds after his career to cover that lost income.

TPA is meant to be exclusive from the club, and it should not be the responsibility of the club to compensate a player when a TPA deal falls through. If this all went down like has been said, then Robbie screwed us over again, and whoever offered compensation made an idiot mistake if they left evidence of this.

Where is the evidence that this post-career role is intended to compensate Robbie for a lost TPA arrangement? I'm not asking people on the forum for evidence, I'm asking what evidence do the NRL have that this was the case? I guess they think they have something?? Why has it not been leaked, like all this other stuff has been leaked?

**The NRL don't need evidence the role was to compensate, all they need is evidence of the role as that is all that is needed to prove the Tigers breached the cap.**
I'm a little more sympathetic to Robbie in regards to this, why would he leave the club if it would leave him $200K out of pocket? he had every right to stay.

You keep saying we breached the cap. Can you explain where this breach is?

If they have evidence of the role than the Tigers have breached the cap, they don't need to prove the role was to compensate for salary or a TPA. If he has a guaranteed role after retirement and the Tigers have not told the NRL about it or received approval for that amount to be not included in the cap then the club has breached the cap.

 

[cochise]

TPAs would have no impact on this matter. The club is not involved with TPAs and even if he changed clubs the private organisation that arranged the TPA with Robbie would most likely still hold it true after he went to Souths. If they actually did it because they like Robbie, moving from Leichhardt to Redfern makes zero difference to them. Only if they did it to support the Tigers may there be an issue for that company.

We paid Robbie every dollar he was owed and pay him market value now. Confirmed by both him and the club. There's nothing shady here.

You’re missing the point. If you’re getting a TPA at one club but not another why would you bother moving clubs? I have zero idea about the circumstances of how the money was owed but it was owed to him regardless. And given he was under contract he could simply refuse to jump.

He did refuse to jump, he dug his heels in like none other I have ever seen.

I don't think they missed the point at all. We did ensure that Robbie was paid every cent that we owed him. The position seems to be that an outside sponsorship deal (a TPA) would likely fall through if he left WT, and to compensate Robbie personally for that, WT may have agreed to pay him some funds after his career to cover that lost income.

TPA is meant to be exclusive from the club, and it should not be the responsibility of the club to compensate a player when a TPA deal falls through. If this all went down like has been said, then Robbie screwed us over again, and whoever offered compensation made an idiot mistake if they left evidence of this.

Where is the evidence that this post-career role is intended to compensate Robbie for a lost TPA arrangement? I'm not asking people on the forum for evidence, I'm asking what evidence do the NRL have that this was the case? I guess they think they have something?? Why has it not been leaked, like all this other stuff has been leaked?

You are exactly right to say that TPA's are outside the club and not their responsibility, but the speculation here is that the club took it on as their responsibility in order to get Farah to leave the club. That decision would be the clubs responsibility and not Farah's.

 

[happy_tiger]

I guess the other big question is will they get an interim CEO if Pascoe can't beat the charge or will someone like Kelly Egan step up for the short term ??