Player fire sale just weeks away

[newtiger]

If my math is correct then the Bulldogs, Penrith, Roosters and Raiders will only need to get rid of one decent player.
They planned for a $10M cap now its $9.4M - that's only $600k over.

It's not quite as easy as that, for every player that you get rid of you need to replace him with another player to have 30 players in the top tier.
I think under the new agreement the lowest player payment is $100K.
Plus a club might/will have to subsidise the player/players they release. The clubs with cap space now know that some clubs will have to move players on they will not make it easy for the club nor should they.
Nathan Brown said that he was going to play hard ball and make the clubs that over spent sweat, and the other clubs with cap space should do the same.
Not give these greedy clubs an easy way out of their financial mess that they created for themselves, when they were warned by the NRL not to spend over $9.1million.
My heart bleeds for these greedy clubs.
:roll

 

[Harvey]

Dogs also have a few players off contract that you assume will not be re-signed. They still need to have a squad of 30, even if 8 of them are on minimum contracts of 100k or so

 

[newtiger]

If my math is correct then the Bulldogs, Penrith, Roosters and Raiders will only need to get rid of one decent player.
They planned for a $10M cap now its $9.4M - that's only $600k over.

for what its worth Reading the player has said that the dogs situation is worse than what's been reported. Even if the cap was set at 9.5mil the dogs would still be 1.1mil over that amount.

You are close to the mark. They will have to heavily subsidise players to get 1.1m off the books.
I think NZ or Knights will take Graham at 450k saving 550k. The Morris boys will have takers at 300k which should save the Dogs another 800k.

Their team losing Kasiano, Graham, Morris x2 will be inferior even with Woods & Foran. If the players refuse to leave then it will get very interesting.

Woods, Foran, Brown and Elliot are all backended to make things worse moving forward.

For every player that the Dogs get rid of they have to spend $100K to buy a replacement to fill their 30 players under the cap.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

I would think Woods would be a massive chance of having to play elsewhere now considering the 200k for long serving players wouldnt qualify any of their player bar Reynolds i would imagine. Of course that depends on if the stipulations are changed around the length of time. So effectively the dogs would be working off a $9.2 cap unless they spent the $200k on dev players, still massive issues either way.

Id take Woods back at 5ook for 4 seasons the dogs picking up the remainder how sweet would that be imagine his manager squirming back into Pascoe's office :laughing:

 

[Telltails]

Dib is very happy with the outcome - either foxing- or the player sale is not going to be anywhere near the scale that is being predicted.

 

[gallagher]

Dib is very happy with the outcome - either foxing- or the player sale is not going to be anywhere near the scale that is being predicted.

A deal has probably been done with a player moving on, this cap increase has likely put them right.

 

[05TIGZ]

No matter what, the bulldogs will have to write off next year and start a re build in 2019\. It's seems almost every decent player is signed up or retiring so that will be harder said than done. They will have to most likely rely on over paying for young talent and we all know that ends up. Woods could go 4 years at the bulldogs and not have much success. Come back woodsy before its too late.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

This just gets better and better. On many levels.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBarrett_/status/898047199392579584

So how many years at a club before your classed as a veteran. It's an extra 200k we have to spend if we just use it on Lawrences contract.

Woods has been having weekly coffees with the Dogs all season. That's enough for veteran status.

 

[stryker]

Whilst it would be nice to jam the bulldogs up the blirter, id offer Woods whatever our last offer was to him. I wouldnt be interested in lowballing everyone, because that will always backfire. If it means dogs add some, then tell woods that is up to him to either get or forego.

Pay him what he is worth, make him happy, breed loyalty and good club ethic, and get on with life.

Maybe we can all chip in and get him a welcome back cake as well?

 

[earl]

I love the pay him what he is worth and breed loyalty comment. We've been overpaying these guys for years and they showed no loyalty at all.

 

[LARDS]

The bargains available in the fire sale won't be in any marquee players being offloaded and subsidised. It will be the new talent coming through that clubs can't afford to fit in their cap. Like the eisenhooths and the twals.
Seems like Ivan's already onto that.

 

[05TIGZ]

Rumour on Facebook that dragons have mAde an offer to graham for $400k , rest to be subsidised by bulldogs.

 

[Nors05]

Rumour on Facebook that dragons have mAde an offer to graham for $400k , rest to be subsidised by bulldogs.

We should offer 500k a year on a 2 year deal (with Bulldogs paying the remainder for 2018 season)

 

[jadtiger]

Rumour on Facebook that dragons have mAde an offer to graham for $400k , rest to be subsidised by bulldogs.

We should offer 500k a year on a 2 year deal (with Bulldogs paying the remainder for 2018 season)

It would be a waste of money he is getting very injury prone

 

[sideline_eye]

Rumour on Facebook that dragons have mAde an offer to graham for $400k , rest to be subsidised by bulldogs.

We should offer 500k a year on a 2 year deal (with Bulldogs paying the remainder for 2018 season)

It would be a waste of money he is getting very injury prone

Well of course any player that they want to move on would also have to agree to go; contracted players have the right to remain at their present clubs until the contract expires.

 

[Telltails]

I love the pay him what he is worth and breed loyalty comment. We've been overpaying these guys for years and they showed no loyalty at all.

Dont think Teddy and Woods have been overpaid by this club, some others maybe.

 

[Chainlink]

I would think Woods would be a massive chance of having to play elsewhere now considering the 200k for long serving players wouldnt qualify any of their player bar Reynolds i would imagine. Of course that depends on if the stipulations are changed around the length of time. So effectively the dogs would be working off a $9.2 cap unless they spent the $200k on dev players, still massive issues either way.

Id take Woods back at 5ook for 4 seasons the dogs picking up the remainder how sweet would that be imagine his manager squirming back into Pascoe's office :laughing:

Morris would qualify I think.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

The bargains available in the fire sale won't be in any marquee players being offloaded and subsidised. It will be the new talent coming through that clubs can't afford to fit in their cap. Like the eisenhooths and the twals.
Seems like Ivan's already onto that.

That is how it should be. We need to identify the best of the young talent, especially young backs with genuine pace, on the cusp of the NRL. Let them grow into our young team, not grow out of it at the back end of careers.

 

[colmcd]

The bargains available in the fire sale won't be in any marquee players being offloaded and subsidised. It will be the new talent coming through that clubs can't afford to fit in their cap. Like the eisenhooths and the twals.
Seems like Ivan's already onto that.

That is how it should be. We need to identify the best of the young talent, especially young backs with genuine pace, on the cusp of the NRL. Let them grow into our young team, not grow out of it at the back end of careers.

No more young Talent. We picked the "Young" Brooks, Moses and Tedesco and they struggled to understand their roles without strong mentors.

James Graham for $400,000 I would say Yes. He brings a fair bit of experience and pride to the sides he plays. 500k, Hmm I would have to think about it, I would not pay more then 500K because of his injuries.

The sharks are playing with 36, 34 and 32 year old forwards and doing well with it. I would not rule people out because they are of that age. In fact I don't think anyone would object that we should have kept Chris H.