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formerguest said:
The killing of fully formed babies under the previous Roe v Wade decision debate is basically just yet another furphy.

When during pregnancy do most abortions occur?​

The vast majority of abortions – around nine-in-ten – occur during the first trimester of a pregnancy. In 2019, 93% of abortions occurred during the first trimester – that is, at or before 13 weeks of gestation, according to the CDC. An additional 6% occurred between 14 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, and 1% were performed at 21 weeks or more of gestation. These CDC figures include data from 42 states and New York City (but not the rest of New York).
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"according to the CDC" So a reputable source 😵
 
Yossarian said:
About Sam Harris? Of course not. So who were you previously on this forum?
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Yossarian said:
Well I’m no Bush supporter. I’ve made my point. I don’t think either Bush would have claimed they lost because the election was rigged. That’s really what I was driving at.
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Fair question, what's your take on all those Senate Democrats not wanting to certify Trumps Presidency? Clinton droning on for years about her stolen election, Stacy 'the tank' Abrams calling for years the Georgia election fake news? Thoughts??
 
Winston Churchill said:
Fair question, what's your take on all those Senate Democrats not wanting to certify Trumps Presidency? Clinton droning on for years about her stolen election, Stacy 'the tank' Abrams calling for years the Georgia election fake news? Thoughts??
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After the 2016 election? It’s an unreasonable position for them to take. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon clearly won. I’ve not seen much from Clinton suggesting that the vote was rigged and she actually won (although of course she did get more votes).

It’s disappointing you feel the need to take a crack at her body weight. I’m not across what SA has said on that front. My general take is she comes across as a very bright and capable woman.
 
Earl said:
Good info. Facts matter.
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I could refute just about every single one of the posts of the blinded on here on all subjects, and I already knew those figures to a percentage or so from memory.

Just won't waste the time when most of them wouldn't even know that a woman is almost always asking second trimester onwards termination based on medical advice, let alone that they actually have to go through the process of giving birth through inducement.

An extremely emotional process to a person that nature has them chemically wanting to protect said baby.
 
formerguest said:
The killing of fully formed babies under the previous Roe v Wade decision debate is basically just yet another furphy.

When during pregnancy do most abortions occur?​

The vast majority of abortions – around nine-in-ten – occur during the first trimester of a pregnancy. In 2019, 93% of abortions occurred during the first trimester – that is, at or before 13 weeks of gestation, according to the CDC. An additional 6% occurred between 14 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, and 1% were performed at 21 weeks or more of gestation. These CDC figures include data from 42 states and New York City (but not the rest of New York).
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Thank you FG for making my case. So its clear its not a binary.

What then is it necessary for 33 of the 50 states to legalise killing babies from 24 weeks up until birth?

I cant believe that people continue with the whole "one side good, other side bad" bullshit.
 
Yossarian said:
After the 2016 election? It’s an unreasonable position for them to take. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon clearly won. I’ve not seen much from Clinton suggesting that the vote was rigged and she actually won (although of course she did get more votes).

It’s disappointing you feel the need to take a crack at her body weight. I’m not across what SA has said on that front. My general take is she comes across as a very bright and capable woman.
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You must be fun at all the parties you dont get invited to.

Name was fairdinkumaussie OG member from 2004-2010 on the old forum. Passing of an old mate on here recently from way back in the early days of this place, brought me back to this forum and reading 700 pages of lefties carrying on like petulant little children made me want to join back up and stir up your little sensitive feels around the midterms.
 
formerguest said:
I could refute just about every single one of the posts of the blinded on here on all subjects, and I already knew those figures to a percentage or so from memory.

Just won't waste the time when most of them wouldn't even know that a woman is almost always asking second trimester onwards termination based on medical advice, let alone that they actually have to go through the process of giving birth through inducement.

An extremely emotional process to a person that nature has them chemically wanting to protect said baby.
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Aborting a child at any stage of the pregnancy to save the life of the mother is legal in 50 states in the US and 6 states and two territories in Australia. It is a complete red herring.
 
Earl said:
I've never been into politics but I think you are using dumb simplistic arguments so it's probably not worth engaging with you.

Here is my main thought - a lot of people today argue extremist viewpoints and it's stupid.

I'll give a good example. I consider myself fairly well educated on climate change. I think it's a real issue and potentially apocalyptic. The kicker is I don't think it's that bad just yet and we are actually managing it a lot better than how the issue is being framed. There is a lot of crap science about how any extreme weather event is climate change.

You need to discuss issues with me rationally and factually.

Carefactor earlier tried to
Yossarian said:
That’s their choice though. That’s the point. But let’s be honest, the legislation changes that have been made or proposed aren’t to stop the situations you’re talking about, they’re to outlaw ALL abortions.

Do you support a termination under any circumstances?
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THEY ARE NOT!!!! Holy crap dude doesn't it come to a point where you start thinking ... hmmm perhaps the news is full of shit.?
Each state makes their own laws.
Biggest REPUBLICAN held state Florida post court ruling PUT IN TO LAW 2022 Legal 15 week abortion and or medical reasons.
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Winston Churchill said:
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You must be fun at all the parties you dont get invited to.

Name was fairdinkumaussie OG member from 2004-2010 on the old forum. Passing of an old mate on here recently from way back in the early days of this place, brought me back to this forum and reading 700 pages of lefties carrying on like petulant little children made me want to join back up and stir up your little sensitive feels around the midterms.
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My sensitivities? I think I’ve made a couple of general observations on the midterms from psephology perspective.

It’s not my idea of fun to crack fat jokes.
 
Yossarian said:
After the 2016 election? It’s an unreasonable position for them to take. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon clearly won. I’ve not seen much from Clinton suggesting that the vote was rigged and she actually won (although of course she did get more votes).

It’s disappointing you feel the need to take a crack at her body weight. I’m not across what SA has said on that front. My general take is she comes across as a very bright and capable woman.
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Do you actively try to be ignorant when it comes to your lefties acting the way they do or are you genuinely uneducated on how the left has behaved for the last 6 years? Smelling a fish either way.
 
Yossarian said:
After the 2016 election? It’s an unreasonable position for them to take. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon clearly won. I’ve not seen much from Clinton suggesting that the vote was rigged and she actually won (although of course she did get more votes).

It’s disappointing you feel the need to take a crack at her body weight. I’m not across what SA has said on that front. My general take is she comes across as a very bright and capable woman.
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There is literally a trillion videos of her saying this -

....and now she's already getting a head start on 2024......we all know how the lefties love their conspiracy theories.
 
CloudyGlock said:
Thank you FG for making my case. So its clear its not a binary.

What then is it necessary for 33 of the 50 states to legalise killing babies from 24 weeks up until birth?

I cant believe that people continue with the whole "one side good, other side bad" bullshit.
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FG felt good like he was making some significant point lol ... just supported conservative views .
 
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