Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[stryker]

I don't like either.

Pick the lesser of two evils mate…..whoever you think that is.

im having trouble deciding that :laughing:

Your not alone mate….I'm expecting a record number of swing voters

 

[Newy_Tiger]

Benji

 

[Blackpearl]

the mad monk as pm….. i will be catching one of those boats out of oz !!
gillard definately. anyone who slags off great aussies like bernie banton is a complete joke, hey abbot !

 

[Centaur]

Liberal.

Can't stand the ALP.

 

[MacDougall]

How the hell anybody could ever vote for the Liberal Party is beyond me. They serve a small minority of fatcats and give nothing to the common man. They are the closest one can get to feudal rule in Australia circa 2010\. I will be voting for the Australian Sex Party.

 

[tigerpies1]

People need to realise it isn't the face you are voting for it is the party.

I will be voting Liberal.

And some advise to anyone wanting to 'take a stand' because neither choice in the main parties are desirable - please remember a vote for Greens is a vote for labour more or less. It takes no stand.

I am sick and tired of hearing or reading the old line "a vote for the Greens is a vote for Labor " (by the way there is no 'u' in Labor) I could vote for the Greens and give my preferences to the Liberal Party , so my 'Green' vote would end up a liberal vote , please stop the con .However I Will be voting Labor .

 

[stryker]

People need to realise it isn't the face you are voting for it is the party.

I will be voting Liberal.

And some advise to anyone wanting to 'take a stand' because neither choice in the main parties are desirable - please remember a vote for Greens is a vote for labour more or less. It takes no stand.

I am sick and tired of hearing or reading the old line "a vote for the Greens is a vote for Labor " (by the way there is no 'u' in Labor) I could vote for the Greens and give my preferences to the Liberal Party , so my 'Green' vote would end up a liberal vote , please stop the con .However I Will be voting Labor .

:laughing: You are so transparant tigerpies…...

 

[tigerpies1]

People need to realise it isn't the face you are voting for it is the party.

I will be voting Liberal.

And some advise to anyone wanting to 'take a stand' because neither choice in the main parties are desirable - please remember a vote for Greens is a vote for labour more or less. It takes no stand.

I am sick and tired of hearing or reading the old line "a vote for the Greens is a vote for Labor " (by the way there is no 'u' in Labor) I could vote for the Greens and give my preferences to the Liberal Party , so my 'Green' vote would end up a liberal vote , please stop the con .However I Will be voting Labor .

:laughing: You are so transparant tigerpies…...

Transparent ? Please explain or don't you know how our preferential voting system works ?

 

[wtffl2005]

voting for liberal

cause i dont trust red heads

and i want my vote to go to the person i voted for not some union cat that thinks he is more powerful than the pm

 

[Tiger_Watto]

How the hell anybody could ever vote for the Liberal Party is beyond me. They serve a small minority of fatcats and give nothing to the common man. They are the closest one can get to feudal rule in Australia circa 2010\. I will be voting for the Australian Sex Party.

Australian Sex Party?

I'm voting for them…. There is never enough Sex Parties in this country!!!
:wahoo:

 

[BRET]

I am sick and tired of hearing or reading the old line "a vote for the Greens is a vote for Labor " **(by the way there is no 'u' in Labor)** I could vote for the Greens and give my preferences to the Liberal Party , so my 'Green' vote would end up a liberal vote , please stop the con .However I Will be voting Labor .

There will be if they get another term.

 

[tigerpies1]

I am sick and tired of hearing or reading the old line "a vote for the Greens is a vote for Labor " **(by the way there is no 'u' in Labor)** I could vote for the Greens and give my preferences to the Liberal Party , so my 'Green' vote would end up a liberal vote , please stop the con .However I Will be voting Labor .

There will be if they get another term.

We can only hope then hey BRET :wink:

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

We lose out either way, this is why the two party system sucks…

You can either vote for the disloyal dishonest PM who knifed her former leader in the back and has absolutely no accountablility for the large part she played in the shambles that was the previous government, or you can vote for the religious zealot who will most definitely let his religion interfere with the governing of this country.

Bring back the "No beer and petrol tax" party.

 

[Yossarian]

voting for liberal

cause i dont trust red heads

and i want my vote to go to the person i voted for not some union cat that thinks he is more powerful than the pm

Well you didn't vote for Kevin Rudd did you? Not unless you live in Brisbane and happen to be in his electorate. Seriously as if you were going to vote ALP if Rudd was still there!!

 

[Yossarian]

People need to realise it isn't the face you are voting for it is the party.

I will be voting Liberal.

And some advise to anyone wanting to 'take a stand' because neither choice in the main parties are desirable - please remember a vote for Greens is a vote for labour more or less. It takes no stand.

I am sick and tired of hearing or reading the old line "a vote for the Greens is a vote for Labor " (by the way there is no 'u' in Labor) I could vote for the Greens and give my preferences to the Liberal Party , so my 'Green' vote would end up a liberal vote , please stop the con .However I Will be voting Labor .

Exactly. A lot of rubbish is written about preference flows. Preferences are up to the individual voter!! Unless you vote above the line in the Senate the only "deal" being done is the order of numbering on the HTV papers.

It would be just as accurate to say a vote for Fred Nile's lunatic party is a vote for the Liberals…

 

[Juro]

My god, what a choice!

Any way, it's not like my vote will actually make a difference. I live in one of the safest Liberal electorates in the country so my vote will not be noticed by either party regardless of what I put on the form…

 

[rollingstone]

I wonder if all you liberal voters have jobs. Going by your spelling and grammar you certainly didn't have an education. Anyway if you do have jobs, you would do well to consider what your employment situation would have been if the Liberal party had been in power. According to the World bank and the International Monetary Fund, under the policies espoused by the Liberals, more than 200,000 Australians would have lost their jobs and thousands of businesses would have gone broke. Australia, instead of being in a growth phase would be in a deep recession. Instead, we have low unemployment, high spending on infrastructure, a budget deficit so small that it is the envy of all major economies and a national debt which was described by Treasury as negligible. Our economy is known around the world as "the wonder from down under".

You probably owe your livelihood to the Labor Party, your kids either have or soon will have a laptop computer, you can go to a hospital which has substantially more nurses than when Tony Abbott as Health Minister took the axe to their numbers. All this, and you would go back to a political party which will reintroduce the worst aspects of Work Choices to cut your wages and conditions and allow your boss to sack you without a reasonable excuse.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

 

[Spartan117]

No Brainer - How could anyone vote for labour..

 

[BRET]

People need to realise it isn't the face you are voting for it is the party.

I will be voting Liberal.

And some advise to anyone wanting to 'take a stand' because neither choice in the main parties are desirable - please remember a vote for Greens is a vote for labour more or less. It takes no stand.

I am sick and tired of hearing or reading the old line "a vote for the Greens is a vote for Labor " (by the way there is no 'u' in Labor) I could vote for the Greens and give my preferences to the Liberal Party , so my 'Green' vote would end up a liberal vote , please stop the con .However I Will be voting Labor .

Exactly. A lot of rubbish is written about preference flows. Preferences are up to the individual voter!! Unless you vote above the line in the Senate the only "deal" being done is the order of numbering on the HTV papers.

It would be just as accurate to say a vote for Fred Nile's lunatic party is a vote for the Liberals…

Most people (85% the most recent calculations) will follow the recommended preferences given by the main party they are voting for. Greens are in bed with Labor, it is in both their interests to have the preferences reflect that. Yes, you could choose any order you wish, however most don't as they only want to follow the prompts of the main party they want to win, so they will jot down their 1234's according to the HTV paper given by who they are voting for. So most people are not choosing a preference at all - the main party is choosing.

 

[Yossarian]

Exactly. A lot of rubbish is written about preference flows. Preferences are up to the individual voter!! Unless you vote above the line in the Senate the only "deal" being done is the order of numbering on the HTV papers.

It would be just as accurate to say a vote for Fred Nile's lunatic party is a vote for the Liberals…

Most people (85% the most recent calculations) will follow the recommended preferences given by the main party they are voting for. Greens are in bed with Labor, it is in both their interests to have the preferences reflect that. Yes, you could choose any order you wish, however most don't as they only want to follow the prompts of the main party they want to win, so they will jot down their 1234's according to the HTV paper given by who they are voting for. So most people are not choosing a preference at all - the main party is choosing.

What a load of rubbish. If your numbers are to be believed all it means is 85% of voters (are you suggesting the Greens are a "main party"? If not does it matter how ALP or Lib voters follow the HTV??) CHOOSE to follow the HTV they are given. Nobody forces them to do anything and for you to suggest some big evil ALP-Green alliance is compelling unwilling voters to follow a HTV you are being disingenuous at best.

Like I said the flow of preference from Christian Democrats (Fred Nile) and Family First is a lot more solid than Greens to ALP but nobody sane actually thinks Fred Nile forces his voters to choose the Libs as a second preference.