@Spartan117 said:No Brainer - How could anyone vote for labour..
Since there is no party in Australia by that name nobody could…
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@Spartan117 said:No Brainer - How could anyone vote for labour..
@Yossarian said:@Spartan117 said:No Brainer - How could anyone vote for labour..
Since there is no party in Australia by that name nobody could…
@Yossarian said:@BRET said:@Yossarian said:Exactly. A lot of rubbish is written about preference flows. Preferences are up to the individual voter!! Unless you vote above the line in the Senate the only "deal" being done is the order of numbering on the HTV papers.
It would be just as accurate to say a vote for Fred Nile's lunatic party is a vote for the Liberals…
Most people (85% the most recent calculations) will follow the recommended preferences given by the main party they are voting for. Greens are in bed with Labor, it is in both their interests to have the preferences reflect that. Yes, you could choose any order you wish, however most don't as they only want to follow the prompts of the main party they want to win, so they will jot down their 1234's according to the HTV paper given by who they are voting for. So most people are not choosing a preference at all - the main party is choosing.
What a load of rubbish. If your numbers are to be believed all it means is 85% of voters (are you suggesting the Greens are a "main party"? If not does it matter how ALP or Lib voters follow the HTV??) CHOOSE to follow the HTV they are given. Nobody forces them to do anything and for you to suggest some big evil ALP-Green alliance is compelling unwilling voters to follow a HTV you are being disingenuous at best.
Like I said the flow of preference from Christian Democrats (Fred Nile) and Family First is a lot more solid than Greens to ALP but nobody sane actually thinks Fred Nile forces his voters to choose the Libs as a second preference.
@rollingstone said:I wonder if all you liberal voters have jobs. Going by your spelling and grammar you certainly didn't have an education. Anyway if you do have jobs, you would do well to consider what your employment situation would have been if the Liberal party had been in power. According to the World bank and the International Monetary Fund, under the policies espoused by the Liberals, more than 200,000 Australians would have lost their jobs and thousands of businesses would have gone broke. Australia, instead of being in a growth phase would be in a deep recession. Instead, we have low unemployment, high spending on infrastructure, a budget deficit so small that it is the envy of all major economies and a national debt which was described by Treasury as negligible. Our economy is known around the world as "the wonder from down under".
You probably owe your livelihood to the Labor Party, your kids either have or soon will have a laptop computer, you can go to a hospital which has substantially more nurses than when Tony Abbott as Health Minister took the axe to their numbers. All this, and you would go back to a political party which will reintroduce the worst aspects of Work Choices to cut your wages and conditions and allow your boss to sack you without a reasonable excuse.
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
@rollingstone said:I wonder if all you liberal voters have jobs. Going by your spelling and grammar you certainly didn't have an education. Anyway if you do have jobs, you would do well to consider what your employment situation would have been if the Liberal party had been in power. According to the World bank and the International Monetary Fund, under the policies espoused by the Liberals, more than 200,000 Australians would have lost their jobs and thousands of businesses would have gone broke. Australia, instead of being in a growth phase would be in a deep recession. Instead, we have low unemployment, high spending on infrastructure, a budget deficit so small that it is the envy of all major economies and a national debt which was described by Treasury as negligible. Our economy is known around the world as "the wonder from down under".
You probably owe your livelihood to the Labor Party, your kids either have or soon will have a laptop computer, you can go to a hospital which has substantially more nurses than when Tony Abbott as Health Minister took the axe to their numbers. All this, and you would go back to a political party which will reintroduce the worst aspects of Work Choices to cut your wages and conditions and allow your boss to sack you without a reasonable excuse.
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
@rollingstone said:Good to see all the dribble our current Ranga PM is feeding you has brain-washed you. All Labour achieved by abolishing Work Choices was to ensure less jobs in the future….
Neither party has a solution on Health, neither party has a solution on Immigration and neither party have a solution on Education, other than to appease minority groups to ensure they are elected....
I didn't get much of an education, but I own my on Company? And more importantly, I certainly won't be voting Labor!!!
@tiger watto said:@rollingstone said:good to see all the dribble our current ranga pm is feeding you has brain-washed you. All labour achieved by abolishing work choices was to ensure less jobs in the future….
Neither party has a solution on health, neither party has a solution on immigration and neither party have a solution on education, other than to appease minority groups to ensure they are elected....
I didn't get much of an education, but i own my on company? And more importantly, i certainly won't be voting labor!!!
@king sirro said:what about Gillards earlobes. They are disgusting
@BRET said:For those who missed the Alan Jones segment
http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=6672
@magpie mania said:My vote daniel fitzhenry just to keep him out of the wests tigers team on sundays.
@ron burgandy said:id vote for abbott because we cant have a PM making rash, erratic decisions for one week out of every month
@BRET said:For those who missed the Alan Jones segment
http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=6672
@stryker said:Did anyone catch Gillard getting her backside handed to her this morning by Alan Jones?
She is a deadset liar…unmitigated liar! I mean how can you trust her? She comes from VERY shady beginnings and leopards dont change their spots. She also has a big "tell". Whenever she is caught out or doesnt have a truthful answer for a question she does this extremely condescending fake laugh.