Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[cktiger]

**Yet if your family has plenty of money, you fly in, take one of the university places that a good amount of our politicians got for free and then hang around. They then of course bring their families in that have already had a property sitting vacant long term waiting for them.**

Meanwhile we have defence personnel participating in conflicts from which people are fleeing and yet offer little or no sanctuary for them, whilst voting against sanctions for snipers of a national army killing people throwing rocks that land far from them.

Go figure.

Too bad that's what people think… not what really happens.
Without the fees from overseas students our universities would crumble... and getting your family here is not easy unless they are incredibly wealthy.
As for your second paragraph I'm wondering if you believe we should open the floodgates and let anyone into the country and then support the Iran and Hamas agenda in the middle east?

 

[Tim Sheens]

**Yet if your family has plenty of money, you fly in, take one of the university places that a good amount of our politicians got for free and then hang around. They then of course bring their families in that have already had a property sitting vacant long term waiting for them.**

Meanwhile we have defence personnel participating in conflicts from which people are fleeing and yet offer little or no sanctuary for them, whilst voting against sanctions for snipers of a national army killing people throwing rocks that land far from them.

Go figure.

Too bad that's what people think… not what really happens.
Without the fees from overseas students our universities would crumble... and getting your family here is not easy unless they are incredibly wealthy.
As for your second paragraph I'm wondering if you believe we should open the floodgates and let anyone into the country and then support the Iran and Hamas agenda in the middle east?

It is not a matter of what people think, it is fact and the floodgate for those with fat wallets. Argue with the figures of your preferred conservative government's agencies if you think they are wrong, not me.

 

[supercoach]

In my days working in the airline games, I saw refuges being dragged onto aircraft screaming and shouting because they faced certain death when they returned to their country of birth.

I am not sure what the answer is, but its not sending them home to a death sentence

 

[Kul]

merged into the Politics thread

 

[Bob]

In my days working in the airline games, I saw refuges being dragged onto aircraft screaming and shouting because they faced certain death when they returned to their country of birth.

I am not sure what the answer is, but its not sending them home to a death sentence

I think mixing of the pool there. Humanitarian visas given to people facing purgery or fleeing inhabitable countries are very different to visas given for 457 “ skilled migration” visas. One is to help save needless suffering and saves lives. The other is to help cover a shortage in occupations Australia needs.. Two very different circumstances.

 

[magpiecol]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

Crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon?

I guess you weren't around when Mr Hitler was treating everyone so kindly.

😕 😱pen_mouth: :brick:

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

Crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon?

I guess you weren't around when Mr Hitler was treating everyone so kindly.

😕 😱pen_mouth: :brick:

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is using the same tactics as Hitler, scape-goating minorities, dangerous answers to problems that don't even exist, attempting to control the media and all facets of establishment.

I meant crueller than when he took office. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does not care if he wrecks the biosphere therefore doing even more damage than Hitler achieved. His anti-environmental policies almost guarantee the destruction of the environment.

One reason for wars is over-population causing resource shortages, this population increase is driven by modern medicines such as childhood vaccines etc. and longer life spans.

The point I was getting at is that even if we solve social injustice and inequality problems world wide it will be pretty useless if we don't also fix up the population and environment. In 100 years, if we don't change things, the world will be unrecognisable. People will wish that they were not born.

 

[magpiecol]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

Crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon?

I guess you weren't around when Mr Hitler was treating everyone so kindly.

😕 😱pen_mouth: :brick:

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is using the same tactics as Hitler, scape-goating minorities, dangerous answers to problems that don't even exist, attempting to control the media and all facets of establishment.

I meant crueller than when he took office. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does not care if he wrecks the biosphere therefore doing even more damage than Hitler achieved. His anti-environmental policies almost guarantee the destruction of the environment.

One reason for wars is over-population causing resource shortages, this population increase is driven by modern medicines such as childhood vaccines etc. and longer life spans.

The point I was getting at is that even if we solve social injustice and inequality problems world wide it will be pretty useless if we don't also fix up the population and environment. In 100 years, if we don't change things, the world will be unrecognisable. People will wish that they were not born.

I am really embarrassed for you.

😢 😢

 

[happy_tiger]

merged into the Politics thread

Sorry Kul I viewed this from a more social / moral pov

 

[swag_tiger]

I legally have to vote now. 😢 😢
And i don't know a think about politics even though i did Commerce and Business studies at school.

 

[happy_tiger]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

I look at things with the opposite view , the only way we will fix any global issue is to make it socially unacceptable

I look at what the youth in America are attempting with the gun lobby and it gives me a glimmer of hope

If we can potentially show our youth the issues and give them achievable solutions they will act

Lets put it this way , their parents have done SFA in regards to many of the issues raised

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

Crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon?

I guess you weren't around when Mr Hitler was treating everyone so kindly.

😕 😱pen_mouth: :brick:

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is using the same tactics as Hitler, scape-goating minorities, dangerous answers to problems that don't even exist, attempting to control the media and all facets of establishment.

I meant crueller than when he took office. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does not care if he wrecks the biosphere therefore doing even more damage than Hitler achieved. His anti-environmental policies almost guarantee the destruction of the environment.

One reason for wars is over-population causing resource shortages, this population increase is driven by modern medicines such as childhood vaccines etc. and longer life spans.

The point I was getting at is that even if we solve social injustice and inequality problems world wide it will be pretty useless if we don't also fix up the population and environment. In 100 years, if we don't change things, the world will be unrecognisable. People will wish that they were not born.

I am really embarrassed for you.

😢 😢

Coming from you I will take that as a compliment.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

I look at things with the opposite view , the only way we will fix any global issue is to make it socially unacceptable

I look at what the youth in America are attempting with the gun lobby and it gives me a glimmer of hope

If we can potentially show our youth the issues and give them achievable solutions they will act

Lets put it this way , their parents have done SFA in regards to many of the issues raised

I agree completely only global warming catastrophe has a deadline that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Abbot, etc. are determined to gallop us into, even though probably majorities are against their regressive actions. I have been a political activist for about 50 years and had a lot more losses than wins - in spite of winning the public on every issue. So it is about power, money and using it not morality, leadership and survival of the biosphere. Just look at this sites thread about everybody's big proud 4 wheel drives - no hope mate.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

Crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon?

I guess you weren't around when Mr Hitler was treating everyone so kindly.

😕 😱pen_mouth: :brick:

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is using the same tactics as Hitler, scape-goating minorities, dangerous answers to problems that don't even exist, attempting to control the media and all facets of establishment.

I meant crueller than when he took office. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does not care if he wrecks the biosphere therefore doing even more damage than Hitler achieved. His anti-environmental policies almost guarantee the destruction of the environment.

One reason for wars is over-population causing resource shortages, this population increase is driven by modern medicines such as childhood vaccines etc. and longer life spans.

The point I was getting at is that even if we solve social injustice and inequality problems world wide it will be pretty useless if we don't also fix up the population and environment. In 100 years, if we don't change things, the world will be unrecognisable. People will wish that they were not born.

I am really embarrassed for you.

😢 😢

Sound counter argument there Col

 

[happy_tiger]

My first cousin was on that panel but I still managed to fall asleep, the first time that I watched that show in years.

Global warming etc. will wipe us out before social injustice etc is wiped out. The world is getting crueller under Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. World armaments cost so much - all the world's problems could be virtually solved if that cost was re-directed to worthwhile aims.

I look at things with the opposite view , the only way we will fix any global issue is to make it socially unacceptable

I look at what the youth in America are attempting with the gun lobby and it gives me a glimmer of hope

If we can potentially show our youth the issues and give them achievable solutions they will act

Lets put it this way , their parents have done SFA in regards to many of the issues raised

I agree completely only global warming catastrophe has a deadline that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Abbot, etc. are determined to gallop us into, even though probably majorities are against their regressive actions. I have been a political activist for about 50 years and had a lot more losses than wins - in spite of winning the public on every issue. So it is about power, money and using it not morality, leadership and survival of the biosphere. Just look at this sites thread about everybody's big proud 4 wheel drives - no hope mate.

Look we are calling it Global Warming , I watched something about a year ago about a study they are currently doing about linking what happens directly before Geomagnetic Reversal

They believe something similar to Global Warming has occurred before the big ones , yet on our last one (which was extremely small ) was an Ice Age

We are hundreds of thousands of years overdue for a normal event , which could be cataclysmic …..

(Unfortunately you probably won't be able say "Bloody hell , Happy was right :astonished: )

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Nature can act decisively or gently and progressively. A giant comet striking the planet can cause rock and roll and even vertigo - causing major havoc. Whereas Ice Ages etc progress very slowly that nature can adjust for in their own way - permanent change yes but not destruction of the biosphere.

The warming up of the planet in only a few hundred years is radical.

 

[happy_tiger]

Nature can act decisively or gently and progressively. A giant comet striking the planet can cause rock and roll and even vertigo - causing major havoc. Whereas Ice Ages etc progress very slowly that nature can adjust for in their own way - permanent change yes but not destruction of the biosphere.

The warming up of the planet in only a few hundred years is radical.

They know for fact that a Geomagnetic Reversal occurred when many dinosaurs died out and the GMR would have made many possible issues more plausible because it interrupts the atmosphere so severely , we have little protection against solar storms or eruptions

 

[Geo]

What I do now..

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

What I do now..

I would rush to Dick Smith and get a demagnetiser, then to Harvey Norman for a giant spin dryer that can put you into fast-forward, bless yourself and Bob's your uncle

Don't take Benji with you he is already crazy enough - it could straighten him out. But it could crack Ivan's face so that he could actually grin, smile and laugh

 

[tsjonathan]

yes I read it and common sense tells me he was shot from in front and behind. Some people really wanted this guy dead. I wouldn't be suprised if there were 10 shooters,

I'm always a bit skeptical of reports from the Government such as the Warren report. I guess we will have to wait and read more of the files when they are released. I read somewhere 9/10 Americans do not believe the Warren report.

Okay well there it is I guess. I'm talking about primary evidence and expert testimony. If you'd rather go with gut instinct and internet amateurs that's your call.

Because politicians have never lied to us, lol I think we're both talking about primary evidence and therein lies the inaccuracies that don't make sense. Jusst because someone is sceptical it is "internet ametuers and gut instinct" LOL gtfo

Looks like other people can't even be bothered to argue and show you their evidence cause you are so close minded to counter theories. I could send you links to first hand witnesses but then again you wouldn't agree with it anyway. Debating the wind.

Ive tried to be respectful to you, it'd be nice if you returned the favour. Witnesses vary in what they report. That's what they do. But as an overall collective and when considered with actual proper evidence they don't support the 35 shooter theory… if you want to put something forward that's supported by evidence and not dotted lines or fantasy stories from ex felons go for it.

I just finished reading JFK and the unspeakable.. and read Brothers few years ago by Talbot…No doubt in my mind it was a conspiracy.

Amazing evidence in there from LHO's handler George de Mohrenschildt to Richard Case Nagell to Hoover and LBJ's hatchetman Mac Wallace; Clay Shaw and on and on and on.

one shooter from the texas book depository was Mac Wallace

People like Jim Garrison and Mark Lane have interviewed dozens and dozens of witnesses who all claim shots came from behind and in front on the grassy knoll. In my opinion the shot from the front came from James Files (linked to the mob/cia). The evidence is overwhelming. It really is. I am happy to run all of it through with you but...

perhaps lets all just agree to disagree.
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