Potters position in jeopardy

[happy_tiger]

every one on this thread thinks potter has done a good job, well lets look at two areas, defence and attack
1) defence is pretty well gone out the window, our one on one is terrible and the outside backs could not read a kids fairly tale book on how to get to Grammys house, that's how well there coached. week after week they come up with the same crap, I know its not the coach not reading the play but the buck stops with him. if he can not fix the problem then he has to go.
2) we hit the ball up one out nearly every play or it goes to brooks who turns the player back in to the ruck. are one big play is with brooks down a short blind and play out the back, every team now knows this play as we don't have any other plays. he keeps brooks only on the left side and he is now starting to crab across field just like benji did. watch the top sides they have players in motion all the time we don't, it is from poor coaching again if he can not come up with plays he has to go.
please don't use the one about how we are a young side or we have injuries all teams have this problem it means the coach has to coach better and put more time into the structure he wants not just go through the motions.
sorry potter time to go.

BP we are a young squad and we have had lots of injuries

Its not an excuse , it is fact

You can't expect 20 year old players who don't have experienced players around them to be able to perform at their best every week

They will be inconsistent , its just the nature of the beast unfortunately

We are currently missing our

1 /fullback
2 / winger
4 /centre
6/ five eight
11/ back rower

With such a young squad you take that from any club and see how they perform week after week

so all that lets him of the hook for not having any game plan at all and for not been able to get any defensive structure in place, I would not care if we lost every remaining game as long as we tried some sort of plays and had some punch in our defence, but it takes a coach to instil these measures in to a team he clearly does not do this.

You are talking about a side that was thrown together defensively on 5 days notice in some positions against a side that has been together for many seasons

How many seasons now has Ballin, DCE , Foran ,Matai ,Lyon and Brett Stewart been together ??

They would have developed some many options on so many plays with slight variations to all of them that at full strength we would struggle with at Brookvale to keep them quiet

I'm not arguing we weren't bad , but Manly are a bloody good side , probably premiership favourites at this stage and they are missing Glen Stewart and Anthony Watmough two SOO class players

 

[Joshu]

every one on this thread thinks potter has done a good job, well lets look at two areas, defence and attack
1) defence is pretty well gone out the window, our one on one is terrible and the outside backs could not read a kids fairly tale book on how to get to Grammys house, that's how well there coached. week after week they come up with the same crap, I know its not the coach not reading the play but the buck stops with him. if he can not fix the problem then he has to go.
2) we hit the ball up one out nearly every play or it goes to brooks who turns the player back in to the ruck. are one big play is with brooks down a short blind and play out the back, every team now knows this play as we don't have any other plays. he keeps brooks only on the left side and he is now starting to crab across field just like benji did. watch the top sides they have players in motion all the time we don't, it is from poor coaching again if he can not come up with plays he has to go.
please don't use the one about how we are a young side or we have injuries all teams have this problem it means the coach has to coach better and put more time into the structure he wants not just go through the motions.
sorry potter time to go.

BP we are a young squad and we have had lots of injuries

Its not an excuse , it is fact

You can't expect 20 year old players who don't have experienced players around them to be able to perform at their best every week

They will be inconsistent , its just the nature of the beast unfortunately

We are currently missing our

1 /fullback
2 / winger
4 /centre
6/ five eight
11/ back rower

With such a young squad you take that from any club and see how they perform week after week

so all that lets him of the hook for not having any game plan at all and for not been able to get any defensive structure in place, I would not care if we lost every remaining game as long as we tried some sort of plays and had some punch in our defence, but it takes a coach to instil these measures in to a team he clearly does not do this.

I agree! IMO it is also the HEAD COACHES job to make sure that the structures are there in RESERVE GRADE and 20's so we have players that can cover injuries and bad form when required! It is the coach who ultimately decides his top 25 and if the majority are younsters well then he has no one to blame but himself!! :deadhorse: :brick:

 

[happy_tiger]

Totally agree Josh

But in some positions we are down to our 4th or 5th best option

We don't have depth in some positions that we have had major issues in

Potter hasn't been in the job long to get the depth he requires and no doubt that is why Brian Smith has been brought to help the club with

 

[Fraze23]

One of my major gripes with Potter is there seems to be little or no variation in our game at all. We try to play the same style of football regardless of who is in or out of the team and who our opposition is.
Our attack is predictable, pedestrian and usually one out, we don't look like scoring unless it is off the back of some Brooks or Tedesco brilliance.
Our defence in the opening rounds was good when it needed to be namely against Souths and Manly. But we still have a long way to go. Of the 8 games we have lost this year 7 of them have been by a 13 + margin which is unacceptable for a team in finals contention.
The coach has changed and so has the roster, but to me it seems as though a lot of the same old problems are seeping through the cracks.

 

[supercoach]

Kidwell,Payten and Webster are all part of his coaching team now so I fail to see how they will do any better as what ever they are doing now is not working with the NRL squad.

In a nutshell, we have a couple of elite players, a couple of very promising kids, a few run of the mill type NRL players and quite a few who just are not and never will be NRL standard players and till that is addressed we are going to struggle. Even if we had the cap space and the cash their just is not that quality players out their to attract to our club.

Their will be good days in the years ahead, but this year we will fall way short of the eight and next year will be bottom eight at best, after it should get better

 

[Flippedy]

Considering what he has been up against, I think Potter has done an admirable job in the short time he has been at the club. He has changed the attitude of the players and culture at the club - it was only a couple of weeks ago, after the narrow win over Canberra, that he stated the players would 'die for each other'. This would never have been the attitude in latter part of Sheens' coaching tenure, so that's an improvement for starters. He has also shown that he is not scared to give the young players a go in the top grade. Once again, guys like Brooks, Tedesco, Nofo, Moses, Ava, Akoula and Sue would probably still be waiting their turn in State Cup if Sheens was still in charge!

Considering this latter point though, I am really baffled and annoyed that Potter has continued to select players like Lawrence, Lulia and, to a lesser extent, Anasta when they have been hopelessly out of form/inept in their positions for a large part of the season, and young players like Fine, Taukafa and Hitchcox have been loudly knocking on the door for a several weeks now. I don't know, maybe Potter thinks that too many rookies in first grade at the one time is a bad idea and this is probably true under normal circumstances, but surely it is worth the risk in this instance - it couldn't be much worse than what we're getting from our centre pairing right now and who knows, they may even surprise and give us that much needed spark out wide that we're sadly lacking at present.

That's my major gripe with Potter's coaching, along with his apparent reluctance to address refeering issues and our bad discipline, which is effectively killing our once promising season - though from an article I read on another thread, I believe he has finally taken a stance and written to the ref's boss about his concerns - hallelujah! It's only take three quarters of the season, but better late than never I suppose.

I like Potter and, for the most part, I like what he has done with the team, but whether he is the coach to take us to the next level or not, I cannot really say. I know one thing though - it sure would be nice to see what he could actually do with near full roster, in an entire season, just for once.

 

[Goose]

People at the beginning of the year said we would run last or near abouts, we wont do that.

We have had a good go most of the year with a side still lacking experience, we have had a heap of injuries to key players.

Given all this it has been a pretty reasonable effort from Potter, Id like to see him get us into the semies which is still a possibility.

The only drama is the next 3 seasons, with a little more experience in these kids we will want to take advantage of our "window", although I think Potter has done a reasonable job, and overall I like him, Im not cnvinced he is the man to take us all the way.

 

[razor7]

The crux of the problem lies mainly in the woeful medical/ rehab/ injury management regime in place at the club. This cannot be construed as bad luck when it happens season after season. I would hope this is high on the list of things Brian Smith has been tasked with looking at.
Recruitment wise a top line centre should be the priority. We are on the improve but still have a way to go

 

[jirskyr]

Do yourselves a favour, whenever you open the Telecrap newspaper or on-line, mentally prepare yourself that most of what you are about to read is tabloid sensationalist crap.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Agree with Ink , I don't think any other coach could get much more out of the club

Unless they brought players with them …......

I hate to disagree with you guys - you have so many points -
but i think Toovey would of made men out of them

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[innsaneink]

Agree with Ink , I don't think any other coach could get much more out of the club

Unless they brought players with them …......

If you saw the options Mayer mentioned when commenting on the club having to move home base in three months time, youd know just what a pickle this club is in.
Im very worried.

 

[TurnStyle]

After reading through 2 threads basically covering the same issue I will say that if people were to warp back in time to when he took over, I think a lot of them would be very happy with the change that has come over the club in that time.

He has a plan that is not going to work in one or two years; It involves the development of young players and an overhaul of attitude and tomorrow brings with it 50-60 games behind those youngsters and an entire squad who have winners' attitudes.

I think the tigers have started on this course and it is the right one. Give it everything and have faith in potter.

 

[guyofthetiger]

Pretty sure they're just finalising the deal with Bennett

 

[bigsiro]

Pretty sure they're just finalising the deal with Bennett

Sounds good. As long as he doesn't bring the gimp.

 

[tigeru]

Pretty sure they're just finalising the deal with Bennett

Is this a stitch up? Haha

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[LaT]

Waiting for the new board, Brian Smiths review being finished/examined/implemented etc.

Bottom line, coaches record dictates a clubs willingness to re-sign quickly…..shocking stuff.

 

[larrycorowa]

Guys it is clear what the delay is….they were waiting for the appointment of the new board to make a decision. The naming of the new board has been delayed to the extent that they have decided to make a decision at the next board meeting to quash all this media talk. Mayer's recommendation to appoint Potter for a further 2years will be rubber stamped by the lame duck board. I will be dumbstruck if any other scenario unfolds.

Potter has done an outstanding job IMO.