LIVE GAME Preseason Challenge v Canterbury

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batboy said:
I'd have Galvin on the ball - Always
He certainly has the ticker for it.

I've likened his tenacity to Jonathan Thurstons more than once here...
And I think we should be doing the same with Galvin, Luai has also played a little the same...
Screw this left half right half crap - Get the halves linking up, On both sides...

Re: JT - I heard it in commentary once,
You could tie JT's bootlace to the ball and you'd barely break it all game.
I thought it was a great analogy...

He's hoping our 'Coaches' get both halves causing havok all over the park rather than locking them into a corridor (Like they did with the last ones)
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I think that is most likely what we will see happen with Galvin and Luai, lets just hope we have the players backing them up in support.
 
Tucker said:
Daley and Fittler played light years ago. They were also big boys.
You put him at lock or on an edge in this day and age where every decision is micromanaged to the 'enth degree and hell be targetted by ruthless coaches and elite players.
He is not just a ball runner. He didnt get to show his ballplaying the other day because his halves partner totally ball hogged. I suspect had Galvin sat out yesterday, we may have won.
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Latu is beginning to sound like Brookes 2?
Not a controlling half, no authority or voice; but great defender.
Lets persist and blame those around him. The forwards not winning the middle, the 5/8 over calling him etc.
We can teach him all those deficiencies over the next 10 years. NO THANKS!
I'm beginning to think left centre not a bad option to start him.
 
innsaneink said:
Wouldn't surprise me what Benji wants... If Galvin overdoes it again on Friday we know it's with Benji's blessing.... He should've had a coaches boot up the arse after last sunday
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It’s not just Benji, most of the rugby league media which consist of former players and Phil Gould who knows a thing or two about the game all seem to think Galvin is doing great.
We seem to have a few experts on this forum who think otherwise and know better.
 
Tiger Stripes said:
Latu is beginning to sound like Brookes 2?
Not a controlling half, no authority or voice; but great defender.
Lets persist and blame those around him. The forwards not winning the middle, the 5/8 over calling him etc.
We can teach him all those deficiencies over the next 10 years. NO THANKS!
I'm beginning to think left centre not a bad option to start him.
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Its too early to say that. He had 40 minutes in a trial.
Im confused as to how the club is going to use him.
The sensible decision was to play Galvin first 40 and Latu second 40. Im annoyed they didnt do so.
Weve only barely scratched the surface with him and you cant blame supportrs for wondering "is he any good"? The jury is out.
For mine, he showed some absolute class with ball playing last year in tiny snippets. I want to see more. I want to see him dominate KOE this year with the odd NRL appearance when Luai is in Origin.
 
Jolls said:
Interesting debate on Luai/Galvin and our edges last night; however, I think it is a bit academic.

I don't think what we saw of Galvin on the weekend is workable, or the way we will play. I am really unsure what happened in that first half. Galvin definitely overplayed his hand and definitley overplayed his halves partner. He may be a kid who is keen to have his hands on the ball but that needs to be curbed for him to be effective. Having him touch the ball on almost every set is not much different to having Hastings do the same when he was here. NRL level defences will shut him down easily and our attack will suffer for it. Maybe he was given a licence to play whet he saw and was given the role of running our attack, a bit like TDS with the C beside his name.

We also did not see a ball playing lock being used; nor did we see our edges running the lines that you would expect to see. I expect that we were playing a simple structure to get the cobwebs out, get some contact ad nmiles into legs and assess how the young crop are coming along. Which is why I'm not overly concerned with the weekend's result or performance. Our defence was not torn apart like we were by Saints last year and our kicking game was not too bad.

What I expect to see on Friday is a similar no frills game plan: a simplified attack to grind out the yards, kick to the corners/for repeat sets and then focus on our defensive structure. I also expect us to kick early in sets to make us defence hard and get used to attacking with our defence.

Our attack this week should be field dependent - with our backs responsible for getting us of our 20 and then the middles dominating possession in the centre third of the field. This is where the hooker should cfocus on providing good ball to the middles in support. My preference would be to see a lock dominating play in this area supported by the other middles. I want to see whoever is at lock running with the ball in two hands and then setting up a quick play the ball, dropping it off to another middle at the ad line or linking with a half as the opportunity presents. We should then hand the ball over to the half controlling each edge when they want it. The key is in keeping the edge combination so the first receiver should change depending on where we are on the field laterally.

For this game our dominant play maker should not come into effect until we are in strike range. This is when we want to control the play with a focus on setting up for repeat sets, naturally scoring if the opportunity presents.

We should be looking at different combinations all being able to replicate these fundamentals throught the game. Winning isn't everything just yet!
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good post as usual mate. I think you're probably right about Galvin being told to go and get a feel for things and he decided it'd be worth having 50 touches first half. I'll be surprised if we see him pop up on the left as much as he did and he certainly won't be overcalling Jarome as often as he did. Api will also send the ball where he thinks it will be best utilised which will mean he'll see less of the footy.

I'm anticipating a similar structure in attack this weekend to what we did last week. no frills, play short often and rarely use the edges. Birdy might ballplay a little bit but I won't be surprised if he's told to tuck it under the arm like Matamua was.

looking at what Parramatta did on the weekend our defensive edges are going to be tested, which is the most important thing at this time of year. they look extremely fit and fast and guys like Penisini and Lomax are going to cause our boys plenty of headaches, which again I'm quite happy about.
 
Vicious said:
It’s not just Benji, most of the rugby league media which consist of former players and Phil Gould who knows a thing or two about the game all seem to think Galvin is doing great.
We seem to have a few experts on this forum who think otherwise and know better.
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Gus also has said (more than once)
Lachlan Galvin shouldn't have played as much NRL as he has, And he shouldn't have done it in
'that' team.
And before everyone gets off their goat - He meant bringing in a young bloke and floggin him to death having him try spearhead our bunch of Nufties.

Or do we not listen to that because it doesn't fit the narrative?

Sam Walker was being talked about in Origin conversations
- And his coach sent him back to Ressies to work on things after a couple of seasons.
His coach also knows a thing or 2 about football.

**Edit** Galvin is doing great, Being a kid with no experience in a crap team.
He's doing well... And?
 
Vicious said:
It’s not just Benji, most of the rugby league media which consist of former players and Phil Gould who knows a thing or two about the game all seem to think Galvin is doing great.
We seem to have a few experts on this forum who think otherwise and know better.
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Galvin is developing well - but he definitely overplayed his hand on Sunday to the detriment of the team. He doesn't have to reign it in too much but he can't be touching the ball almost every play - an NRL defence will plan for and and nullify him as they did mid last season.

He should be encouraged to play what he sees and have a system between him, Latu and Luai for how they slide or wrap so that it is seamless. That is just simple structure that enables ad lib footy. If he is running about like a chook with his head cut off on Friday I expect one of the Captains to reel him in while he is out there.
 
Tucker said:
Its too early to say that. He had 40 minutes in a trial.
Im confused as to how the club is going to use him.
The sensible decision was to play Galvin first 40 and Latu second 40. Im annoyed they didnt do so.
Weve only barely scratched the surface with him and you cant blame supportrs for wondering "is he any good"? The jury is out.
For mine, he showed some absolute class with ball playing last year in tiny snippets. I want to see more. I want to see him dominate KOE this year with the odd NRL appearance when Luai is in Origin.
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If Luai is in Origin.
 
Vicious said:
It’s not just Benji, most of the rugby league media which consist of former players and Phil Gould who knows a thing or two about the game all seem to think Galvin is doing great.
We seem to have a few experts on this forum who think otherwise and know better.
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He is the new shiny toy. An 18 year old kid who skipped the senior grades to play the majority of the NRL season as a half....its a great story until you really look at it.

He was allowed to do whatever he wanted last year and it resulted in 5 wins from 21 games played. The commentators were way over the top in their praise for him...to the point that they put him in the PMs game where he looked like a complete imposter. Luke Brooks of all people had to come on and save the game. The fact that Brooks, a 230 game NRL veteran who played finals that year and did really well for a new club was overlooked for a rookie who won the spoon was embarrassing. You can call people on here know it all "experts" if you want. The fact is no one watches our team play as closely as us fans. Most of the commentators couldnt give a shit about us. Gould speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Andrew Johns has this weird homo-erotic fixation with the bodies of the players. Freddy Fittler just wants to be loved.

Yes Galvin is a good player at his core. Yes his potential has a high ceiling. Yes he has an excellent motor and enthusiastic approach. Yes he does some great things during most games but fair dinkum, Andrew Voss and Michael Ennis call him a superstar for doing the most basic of things. He is a 19 year old kid still learning his trade and coming to terms with real pressure of expectation and fame. He has a very experienced and accomplished player join our squad as a playmaker and mentor and you want that guy to take a backseat so Galvin can run around the field, touching the ball twice every set trying to pull off miracle plays because a few old blokes, likely with vested interests, are over rating him....its crazy talk.
Seriously, leave the kid alone and let him develop.
 
Tucker said:
Moses was shit in that game until he broke the line at the end.
He wasnt worrying the defence of QLD much at all up until Luai broke through them.
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Luai contribution was the defining moment in that game to turn momentum into a win it was a great effort thank god we won his signature and he goes on to make the difference here.
 
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