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Yes but you can only apply it if you have the troops. We have a first 17 of top of the table quality, the available replacements are also quality but only ressies quality. One or two 'next men up' might be sustainable but six in critical spots? Nup. So 'preparing better' for WT, is having better next men up available. We are not that prepared.
"Next man up" has made a rapid rise to becoming Rugby Leagues biggest cliche. Its lost a bit of meaning.

Penrith were always "next man up" because they had freakish talent 3 deep. It doesnt apply so well to career reserve graders.
 
"Next man up" has made a rapid rise to becoming Rugby Leagues biggest cliche. Its lost a bit of meaning.

Penrith were always "next man up" because they had freakish talent 3 deep. It doesnt apply so well to career reserve graders.
Yes it does if the coaching staff drill the game plans into them and prepare them adequately.
Next man up simply means the replacement knows exactly what’s going on and can seamlessly fit into the established system.
We aren’t expecting the world from them. If they can hold their own and afford the elite guys the chance to play as per program than they have succeeded.
The last few weeks have clearly established thee is a lot more work to be done than most of us realised.
 
All but one winning margin above 20 points so far this weekend. Not the best look for one of the big weekends for the game. Not sure how they find the depth for 2 more NRL teams
It should be a red flag to NRL hierarchy ( it won’t be) but blowout scores becoming common is a terrible look for the game.

Something else that you should never see during an NRL game is “the wave”. I think it indicates crowd boredom and if they are bored at the ground, they aren’t sitting in front of the tv all afternoon/evening either.
 
Yes it does if the coaching staff drill the game plans into them and prepare them adequately.
Next man up simply means the replacement knows exactly what’s going on and can seamlessly fit into the established system.
We aren’t expecting the world from them. If they can hold their own and afford the elite guys the chance to play as per program than they have succeeded.
The last few weeks have clearly established thee is a lot more work to be done than most of us realised.
The problem is our ready made replacements are pure plod

You can have API in and around training as much as you want but Tristan Hope will only ever have the ability of Tristan Hope

Same goes for Mason and the other reserve graders
 
Yes it does if the coaching staff drill the game plans into them and prepare them adequately.
Next man up simply means the replacement knows exactly what’s going on and can seamlessly fit into the established system.
We aren’t expecting the world from them. If they can hold their own and afford the elite guys the chance to play as per program than they have succeeded.
The last few weeks have clearly established thee is a lot more work to be done than most of us realised.
it isnt exactly a new concept and probably not a phrase you hear Bellamy or Bennett say because its just common sense that replacement players know and understand the system they come in to. But if a player isnt good enough, he isnt good enough regardless of how well he knows the system

Its up there with "just taking it a week at a time" and "full credit to the boys" for me... both are true, but do they really need to be said ad nauseum?
 
The problem is our ready made replacements are pure plod

You can have API in and around training as much as you want but Tristan Hope will only ever have the ability of Tristan Hope

Same goes for Mason and the other reserve graders
If they are pure plod than that is on the coaching staff and Richo.
Personally I don’t see pure plod. I see guys playing without confidence and direction.
Look we shouldnt expect the nuance of the guys they are replacing, but we should expect that they can perform within the system and enact game plans as per the preparation they’ve been through.
 
If they are pure plod than that is on the coaching staff and Richo.
Personally I don’t see pure plod. I see guys playing without confidence and direction.
Look we shouldnt expect the nuance of the guys they are replacing, but we should expect that they can perform within the system and enact game plans as per the preparation they’ve been through.
Richo acknowledged our poor depth when he arrived and only had 18 months of a 3 year plan to fix it.
 
If they are pure plod than that is on the coaching staff and Richo.
Personally I don’t see pure plod. I see guys playing without confidence and direction.
Look we shouldnt expect the nuance of the guys they are replacing, but we should expect that they can perform within the system and enact game plans as per the preparation they’ve been through.
I think we have worked hard on getting our top 17 right, the next stage will be 18-30.

sadly no team has the cattle to account for 5-6 key players out,
 
it isnt exactly a new concept and probably not a phrase you hear Bellamy or Bennett say because its just common sense that replacement players know and understand the system they come in to. But if a player isnt good enough, he isnt good enough regardless of how well he knows the system

Its up there with "just taking it a week at a time" and "full credit to the boys" for me... both are true, but do they really need to be said ad nauseum?
If it’s so well known, and so obvious, then why can’t we get it right?
Hope doesn’t need to outsmart the defences. He needs to give good clean service to Luai and Madden and make his tackles.
Same goes for all of them. We don’t want people impersonating the guys they replaced. Just do your job without screwing up.Error free, good discipline and make your tackles.
It is up to the experienced guys still in the side to step up and drive wins.
 
I think we have worked hard on getting our top 17 right, the next stage will be 18-30.

sadly no team has the cattle to account for 5-6 key players out,
Of course they can’t. Falling in a heap though is very different to not being able to compete.
In some ways we are lucky we played who we did these past 3 weeks.
Had it been 3 games in a row of teams who are performing at a high level this year, we would have copped three 60+ results.
That’s not good enough.
 

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