Referees and commentators

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It astounds me how much the referees are blamed nowadays. Their job is the pull up infringements in the game and enforce the rules, NOT to create a spectacle. That's the players and coaches job. If you're not happy with the amount of penalties…..stop giving them away. They should be criticised for the howlers like the Klein decision, but the 33 penalties last night is a product of two ill-disciplined teams.

Sooner or later one of two things will happen
1\. The referees will "put the whistle away" and the rucks will become a contest of who can cheat the best
2\. The coaches will start to give away fewer penalties in an attempt to gain an advantage.

I sincerely hope the latter is true.

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Blame the players and coaches , no one else is to blame
 
At one point yestetday the ref said to Melbourne markers "you have to be squarer than that" Here's an idea…..blow the whistle and give us a penalty!
 
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Interesting to see the Sunday footy show Matt Checchin asking his VR for '**numbers' , 'how's it looking' , 'should I keep doing what I'm doing' ?**

This proves they are going into games with preconceived ideas… As. If we didn't know

They should just judge what they see.

I noticed Masters and Kaylen Pongia both not binned for pro fouls... Normal programming resuming

Thats odd isn’t it… it’s as if they have certain goals they must meet every game. They should just be playing what they see, not bothering if what they’re doing is “okay”.
 
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At one point yestetday the ref said to Melbourne markers "you have to be squarer than that" Here's an idea…..blow the whistle and give us a penalty!

Yeah I heard that! Think it might have been Hoffman? In which case he really deserved to be pinged later on…
 
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It astounds me how much the referees are blamed nowadays. Their job is the pull up infringements in the game and enforce the rules, NOT to create a spectacle. That's the players and coaches job. If you're not happy with the amount of penalties…..stop giving them away. They should be criticised for the howlers like the Klein decision, but the 33 penalties last night is a product of two ill-disciplined teams.

Sooner or later one of two things will happen
1\. The referees will "put the whistle away" and the rucks will become a contest of who can cheat the best
2\. The coaches will start to give away fewer penalties in an attempt to gain an advantage.

I sincerely hope the latter is true.

x 2 MM

Blame the players and coaches , no one else is to blame

There were certain elements to the referees that the smart coaches like Bellamy & Robinson played on. The refs were never going to blow 15 penalties against one team, and were always going to keep the penalty counts as even as possible. They knew if they could get their players to slow the ruck down to a crawl they would get away with it for a while and if they were penalised into oblivion then they would get square up penalties the other way. It's all been a product of coaches like Hasler, Stuart & Flanagan being able to blame all their failures as a coach on a referee, rather than having the ability to take ownership of it themselves.
 
Melbourne cheating again last night and the dopey refs not up to it. Slater leveraged himself up with the ball, quick tap close to line, Knights player infringes, 10 in the bin. Huge penalty to play when they should have received a penalty. Melbourne have done this in every game this year.
 
Slater is milking the stupid rule. You cna hate Slater but people would cheer if Benji pulled a penalty like that.

As for the quick tap. I hate it, absolutely hate it. it needs to be taken out of the game as its just rubbish and the refs interpretation of it is ruining good games.

The defense need time to be able to get back onside.
 
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Slater is milking the stupid rule. You cna hate Slater but people would cheer if Benji pulled a penalty like that.

As for the quick tap. I hate it, absolutely hate it. it needs to be taken out of the game as its just rubbish and the refs interpretation of it is ruining good games.

The defense need time to be able to get back onside.

Totally agree on the quick tap. The ruling is never consistent and it goes unexplained when it’s disallowed.
 
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Slater is milking the stupid rule. You cna hate Slater but people would cheer if Benji pulled a penalty like that.

As for the quick tap. I hate it, absolutely hate it. it needs to be taken out of the game as its just rubbish and the refs interpretation of it is ruining good games.

The defense need time to be able to get back onside.

Agreed. the quick tap is so subjective and usually allowed for the favoured players/teams only
 
I can't stand penalty goals. 9 games out 10 these days, the first scoring play is a penalty goal. Then 5 minutes later the other team is on the attack, they get a penalty and they take the penalty goal as well to make it 2-2\. Because its so important to get back level at that point of the game. Drives me mad.
 
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Slater is milking the stupid rule. You cna hate Slater but people would cheer if Benji pulled a penalty like that.

As for the quick tap. I hate it, absolutely hate it. it needs to be taken out of the game as its just rubbish and the refs interpretation of it is ruining good games.

The defense need time to be able to get back onside.

Totally agree on the quick tap. The ruling is never consistent **and it goes unexplained when it’s disallowed.**

yep…this.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Brent Tate really shouldnt be allowed anywhere near an interviewers mic again. My God, if you can't interview a mate in the sport you know inside out, then you really should chuck it in. He makes Finchy and dare I say even Scott Prince look like academics
 
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said the same thing in another thread

i love hearing opinions of sterlo, johns, gould, fittler etc but they need to give them in their coulumns, footy shows etc not while the game is going on.

Why?
If It's relevant to the game they're calling I don't see a problem.
What I have a Problem with is Rabs talking about MKR and Gus babbling on about which direction Grrystanes is

there's more to the game than refs calls.
cameras should point to the exact person who was offside and how much by.
commentators giving opinions as the play is going on influences you as a viewer- i bet you in 1-2 weeks the same people will commend the NRL for sticking to it. commentators should be adding to the theatrical of NRL, talk about tactics, talk about a good line break, a good tackle, the winger who came in 30m off his sideline to take some pressure off his forwards etc. plenttyyy more to talk about than trying to blame refs for pulling up players who do the wrong thing

X5
…....AND, PLEASE call/identify the player in the action. All of the TV stations forget that there are many people (NOT ME) watching the game, who have defective sight. If you watch English soccer, their commentary includes .... Smith.. Jones.. Brown, when that player has the ball. Some of this would be better than some ex-player reminiscing on some aspect of their playing days, which were long before many of the viewers were born!
 
Just get the people asking a question a microphone for God's sake.

I am tired of guessing what the question is.

OR are they trying out a new reality show "Guess the question"
 
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Slater is milking the stupid rule. You cna hate Slater but people would cheer if Benji pulled a penalty like that.

As for the quick tap. I hate it, absolutely hate it. it needs to be taken out of the game as its just rubbish and the refs interpretation of it is ruining good games.

The defense need time to be able to get back onside.

Agreed. the quick tap is so subjective and usually allowed for the favoured players/teams only

I actually think it's policed ok. You can't take a quick tap when any of your team are in front of you, also not if the ref calls a stoppage like an injury, to warn a captain, to bin someone. The ref must also award the mark first, so the player can't just assume where the mark is.

You can't take a quick tap within 10m of the opponent's line.

You can't take a quick tap off a 10m offside penalty. I think that's the only penalty type that is excluded. Perhaps scrum penalties too, on the latter I'm not sure actually.

Why take it out though? It's an advantage to the attacking side and it makes for interesting play, i.e. not always going for touch.
 

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