Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[innsaneink]

I think if you start measuring players performances based on their price tag you are bound to be disappointed. Did Greg Inglis earn what he was worth this year - probably not. Is he worth less this year because of that - doubt it. It seems that if you want to retain and or attract good players you are going to have to pay for them. As for FARAH no one was measuring his performances two years ago when he was playing for less than what he was worth. Now some are hell bent on measuring him based on a figure that is inclusive of money owed to him.

Hardly
- Any big money/name player you can bother to dream up isn't in the same category…
You have a short memory, I can think of one game in the last few years Farah played like the marquee player he is selling himself as. The last one before that was the 63 tackle origin game years ago, Even then - It wasn't for us.
Farah hasn't cared about anything outside Origin for 4 years, And wouldn't have played half a dozen "Marquee Player" games for us since 2011... I can't think of any "Marquee" player you can say that about - Except maybe Barba....

Thats because Batboy you dont rate him, dont like him, or both. I got that a long time ago. But those on big money will always carry a higher level of expectation and they dont always live up to it - for various reasons.He is a representative player and with that comes a price tag. His next contract if there is one will be reflective of his age and his form. But his current contract is reflective of where he was at when he signed it. And we will have to agree to dis agree I believe clubs often don t get their value from their marquee players - for the very fact that they are overcommitted due to representative fixtures and the demands of a long competition.

Think back to the back end of last seeson….all he did was tackle, tackle and tackle...yeah people were getting all in a jizz over his stats, 50 and 60 tackles per game, big whoop...he was doing nothing else, he was waiting for forwards to run at him, and he tackled...he was on auto, there was little talk, no creativity...no imagination, no scheming...he was Dallas Johnson.

Clubs, particulalrly those down the bottom are under pressure to play players on big coin regardless of whatever form theyre in...those looking for teams to be selected on form only are living in the past

 

[batboy]

Played in the same team, With the same coach against the warriors and had a real dig.
If we had been getting 60% of that guy - I'd not have a problem with him or whatever we're paying him…..
His the first person to touch the ball every set - All decisions come from him....
Our roll on comes from him.

- When it's not there, It's because he's not giving it to us.
- When he isn't taking advantage of markers, It's his fault.
- When he looks for a penalty time and time again and doesn't get one, Effectively wasting a play and taking himself out of the next one, It's his fault.

Just cos he's a club legend, and currently signed...
That doesn't mean he doesn't should get red carpet.
He's not performing - Simple.
It doesn't matter who he is or how old he is or how much he's getting paid to be honest...

If it did, Darren Senter and Ben Galea would still be hooking for us.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Insaneink:
Think back to the back end of last seeson….all he did was tackle, tackle and tackle...yeah people were getting all in a jizz over his stats, 50 and 60 tackles per game, big whoop...he was doing nothing else, he was waiting for forwards to run at him, and he tackled...he was on auto, there was little talk, no creativity...no imagination, no scheming...he was Dallas Johnson.

Clubs, particulalrly those down the bottom are under pressure to play players on big coin regardless of whatever form theyre in...those looking for teams to be selected on form only are living in the past.

BB Fan: what else would you expect him to do if they are running at him? Someone has to do it. If the team does not have the ball how can he do anything but defend. If the team copied him they may have had the best defensive record for the season.

Was there any chance he was on auto as was following coach's instructions?

Nathan Hindmarsh was the Eels' captain and main tackler just like Farah, when he left they went in reverse.

 

[innsaneink]

:brick: :brick: :brick:

 

[Ed_Reschs]

Played in the same team, With the same coach against the warriors and had a real dig.
If we had been getting 60% of that guy - I'd not have a problem with him or whatever we're paying him…..
His the first person to touch the ball every set - All decisions come from him....
Our roll on comes from him.

- When it's not there, It's because he's not giving it to us.
- When he isn't taking advantage of markers, It's his fault.
- When he looks for a penalty time and time again and doesn't get one, Effectively wasting a play and taking himself out of the next one, It's his fault.

Just cos he's a club legend, and currently signed...
That doesn't mean he doesn't should get red carpet.
He's not performing - Simple.
It doesn't matter who he is or how old he is or how much he's getting paid to be honest...

If it did, Darren Senter and Ben Galea would still be hooking for us.

Everyone talks about the Warriors performance. Funny tho in that performance no one talks about the grubber kick from dummy half on the 2nd tackle or the fact he was defending 2 in from the wing on occasions. The guy has had his time and that's proven by the fact no one wants him full stop.

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[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Well up in this part of the State everyone I have consulted are 100% for him, on the field and in this crisis. That includes a few ex-Sydney lower grade players whom are the most aggressive for him.

 

[Defiant]

I notice Fletch and Hindy have rated Farah the 12th best hooker in the game.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-power-rankings-we-rate-every-clubs-hooker-from-1-16/story-fnp0lyn3-1227583939535

Can't say I can argue against there analysis. Robbie has had one MOM performance in the last few years for the Tigers and that was only after he was told to look around.

 

[batboy]

My point exactly….

All I hear in his defence is "He is a Club Legend"
- I never hear... He is one of the best hookers in the game!!

Because he is the Origin hooker, People assume he is 2nd best behind Smith.
They must forget the other QLD hookers: Ballin, McCollough, Friend... Even that Granville the Cows pulled from Q Cup this year is a better rake than Robbie...

Say I have something against him all you like, It's simply not true....
What is true, Is his stats for a 9 for the last few years are amongst the lowest in the comp.
And he's the NSW "vice captain".

People need to stop sniffing fairy dust, Forget his name and what tattoo he has on his bicep and actually watch him play - Base assessments on this alone.
Then tell me how much you love him....

 

[gallagher]

My point exactly….

All I hear in his defence is "He is a Club Legend"
- I never hear... He is one of the best hookers in the game!!

Because he is the Origin hooker, People assume he is 2nd best behind Smith.
They must forget the other QLD hookers: Ballin, McCollough, Friend... Even that Granville the Cows pulled from Q Cup this year is a better rake than Robbie...

Say I have something against him all you like, It's simply not true....
What is true, Is his stats for a 9 for the last few years are amongst the lowest in the comp.
And he's the NSW "vice captain".

People need to stop sniffing fairy dust, Forget his name and what tattoo he has on his bicep and actually watch him play - Base assessments on this alone.
Then tell me how much you love him....

Amen

 

[gallagher]

I notice Fletch and Hindy have rated Farah the 12th best hooker in the game.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-power-rankings-we-rate-every-clubs-hooker-from-1-16/story-fnp0lyn3-1227583939535

Can't say I can argue against there analysis. Robbie has had one MOM performance in the last few years for the Tigers and that was only after he was told to look around.

Are you able to post the column mate?

 

[ghost]

This whole "he hasnt played well in two years' is a ridiculous argument.

coaches not allowing him to play his natural game have killed him off.

we all saw what he can do when he plays his own game re the one at Cambo!

 

[Geo]

LOL against a Warriors team that had given up and hadn't won a game in 2 months….

Let me guess the following week against a team fighting for their position in the Top 8 he went back to following instructions...

 

[Tim Sheens]

"he was Dallas Johnson" :laughing:

 

[Telltails]

I notice Fletch and Hindy have rated Farah the 12th best hooker in the game.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-power-rankings-we-rate-every-clubs-hooker-from-1-16/story-fnp0lyn3-1227583939535

Can't say I can argue against there analysis. Robbie has had one MOM performance in the last few years for the Tigers and that was only after he was told to look around.

Fletch and Hindy - seriously??

 

[cktiger]

Played in the same team, With the same coach against the warriors and had a real dig.
If we had been getting 60% of that guy - I'd not have a problem with him or whatever we're paying him…..
His the first person to touch the ball every set - All decisions come from him....
Our roll on comes from him.

- When it's not there, It's because he's not giving it to us.
- When he isn't taking advantage of markers, It's his fault.
- When he looks for a penalty time and time again and doesn't get one, Effectively wasting a play and taking himself out of the next one, It's his fault.

Just cos he's a club legend, and currently signed...
That doesn't mean he doesn't should get red carpet.
He's not performing - Simple.
It doesn't matter who he is or how old he is or how much he's getting paid to be honest...

If it did, Darren Senter and Ben Galea would still be hooking for us.

Everyone talks about the Warriors performance. Funny tho in that performance no one talks about the grubber kick from dummy half on the 2nd tackle or the fact **he was defending 2 in from the wing on occasions.** The guy has had his time and that's proven by the fact no one wants him full stop.

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Yep , he's always been a shirker in defence….:unamused: :laughing:

 

[ghost]

LOL against a Warriors team that had given up and hadn't won a game in 2 months….
.

Oh IM sorry…..I was unaware that game did not count.

Im assuming we didnt get two points for it either....

Damn...

 

[Telltails]

My point exactly….

All I hear in his defence is "He is a Club Legend"
- I never hear... He is one of the best hookers in the game!!

Because he is the Origin hooker, People assume he is 2nd best behind Smith.
They must forget the other QLD hookers: Ballin, McCollough, Friend... Even that Granville the Cows pulled from Q Cup this year is a better rake than Robbie...

Say I have something against him all you like, It's simply not true....
What is true, Is his stats for a 9 for the last few years are amongst the lowest in the comp.
And he's the NSW "vice captain".

People need to stop sniffing fairy dust, Forget his name and what tattoo he has on his bicep and actually watch him play - Base assessments on this alone.
Then tell me how much you love him....

All a matter of opinion Batboy. Rated number 11 in the top 50 players in the NRL for the last two years
http://www.nrl.com/nrlcoms-top-50-for-2015-the-full-list/…/default.aspx

 

[Geo]

LOL against a Warriors team that had given up and hadn't won a game in 2 months….
.

Oh IM sorry…..I was unaware that game did not count.

Im assuming we didnt get two points for it either....

Damn...

The one the following week obviously didn't…

 

[Eddie]

My take….

We need Robbie back, we need some tough proven competitors in a young squad. He is not the problem or the cancer as some deluded Tigers fan seem to think

However I would be saying mate your days as captain are over and the way you play will be in consideration when discussing 2017.

Like it or not he has presided over 4 very turbulent years. Some things maybe his fault, plenty are not. But the captaincy has burnt out his best football and thats what he needs to concentrate on. Getting that spark back.

Concentrate on your football and let that do the talking. Lead the team to some wins.

Have a good year, then retire from Origin and you might even see out 2017.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Wise words Eddie, I just hope that Robbie does not read this forum and gets turned off, hopefully, being the professional he is it won't affect him. Some of those tries against the Warriors were brilliant, maybe because they did not have four defenders on each ball runner, which is what I hate and think should be banned. No more than one on one to get the game more flowing and individual strength, agility and speed get their just rewards.