foreveratiger
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@TrueTiger said:
Yeah where getting the Wooden spoon and don't blame Taylor :unamused: , lets extend Taylors Contract while were at it .
How some think Taylor can Coach is :laughing:
Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....
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Yeah where getting the Wooden spoon and don't blame Taylor :unamused: , lets extend Taylors Contract while were at it .
How some think Taylor can Coach is :laughing:
foreveratiger
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You can clearly see by the body language out there , there not believing in what Taylor is trying to implement and look disinterested.
His lost the Dressing room .
His lost the Dressing room .
Pawsandclaws
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@Geo. said:
Is that the line in the sand that keeps on being redrawn as the tide shifts?
@barrytiger said:
Farah has always been somewhat narcissistic. He won the jackpot when he got this ludicrous contract for the next couple of years. But his ego won't allow him to accept the fact that there is someone else out there that is ready for the challenge to step into his role on a full time basis. It was ego that had him in strife over the last few seasons (coaches) and it's own ego once again that is challenging him. If I could get in front of him, I'd say he needs to "take a pay cut to what you're worth mate and maybe you can stick around to assist with the changing of the guard. There's actually a lot of satisfaction to be gained out of doing things for others instead of thinking of yourself all the time." Would he listen? Not a chance.
Nobody is saying he can't finish his career as a tiger. But it won't be as the no.1 hooker. And the reason - probably because he's not anymore.
@TrueTiger said:
yes i agree the club as a entity has made poor decisions in the past.
some of those you're still dealing with right now.
And yes, at some stage everything needs to fall back in line and or "be cleaned up" as you stated.
agree.
My point is this.
the Tigers as a club have had leadership issues for sometime.
Sacking potter was a blunder on massive proportions.
To then hire a new coach who not only implemented changes that have backfired but is also not looked up to by the player roster is an even bigger blunder by the club.
yes people will say "proof hearsay, rumors etc etc
but the proof is in the pudding.
As a coach - he is not respected .
There is NO senior rugby league player playing in the NRL competition that would put his hand up and say "i want to be coached by Jason taylor"
Dont be fooled to think this decision has been made by the board and this is to "clean up a mess" or even (ridiculously) try and say it will ease the salary cap pressure …..
This is the coaches decision.
And... copy this post or thread .... as it will all eventuate... If the tigers stick with Taylor - they will lose their young stars before they have any real success.
Speak to player managers if you can... the wheels are in motion.
Well FT,perhaps Taylor can or cant coach,it also appears the super talented and some senior players cant play or can play…if they were so good at this level you would think that they would be consistent game after game,not win really well against a top side and then lose the plot in the next 4/5 games and be beaten by worse teams than us....
you can lead a horse to water,but you cant make him drink...
As I have said many times before,if anyone has an NRL coaching certificate,go and apply for the job and see if you can do better with the roster we have at the moment and the huge depth we have as back up...
Im not going to judge Taylor until this mess is at least partially cleaned up and we can recruit players of quality,if he doesnt show improvement by mid 2016 then I will gladly call for him to be given the same treatment as Potter...theres the door....
you can lead a horse to water,but you cant make him drink...
As I have said many times before,if anyone has an NRL coaching certificate,go and apply for the job and see if you can do better with the roster we have at the moment and the huge depth we have as back up...
Im not going to judge Taylor until this mess is at least partially cleaned up and we can recruit players of quality,if he doesnt show improvement by mid 2016 then I will gladly call for him to be given the same treatment as Potter...theres the door....
goldcoast_tiger
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@Magpie Magic said:
I still want to know who's going to pull their finger out and start doing the defence that they've been happy to leave to Farah over the last 10 yrs. oh that's right….Cherrington of course..no wait?????
@bobo125 said:
bobo, I do agree with a lot of what you are saying,I really liked Potter and most didnt,I cant change how they feel,in regard to Taylor I really havent seen him with a top quality roster although we have a hell of a lot of potential.Until I can see that we play a more consistent game at NRL standard week in week out and win a majority of winnable games and not lose them,then I will cast my vote if Taylor can or cant coach…
@foreveratiger said:
But 10th 15th and 13th was so much better with a better playing roster….that is the issue here....Everyone excused Potter cause he didn't get what he wanted ....
BTW irrespective of the Coach you think the Players want to be known as the first Wests Tigers team to earn a spoon....Farah said no way in his presser so lets see how we go in the last 2 Rounds....Taylor won't be sacked ....It's up to them to see if they respond to their QWNERSHIP of results....
A Coach can only do so much... in the end the 80mins on the paddock is what counts...
goldcoast_tiger
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@wd in perth said:
Does this mean that anyone who has been under performing is going to be sacked or made to play reserve grade, if so then I'll be delighted to see the real under performers in the earlier games next season.
some of us have been asking for that for most of the season,
Can we have a list of the players that are deemed to be Koalas again in 2016
And the worst performer in the club has been Taylor , so where's he off to in the new year, I'll gladly give him a lift if he wants
Farah is just a scapegoat for the boards ineptitude, and Taylor's incompetence
All this I'm sure will be noted by players who we want to recruit , and if they have any brains , they won't touch us with a barge pole
foreveratiger
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@TrueTiger said:
A Coach is responsible in implementing a game plan to be affective and contributing to improvements throughout the year , injuries have been fairly kind to us and there has not been any continuity in the way we are playing .
He's stated that we are getting back to basics and getting our defence in order , checkout the desperation defence from 4 of our players when the Raiders get a penalty 10 metres out and Shannon Boyd gets to the tryline and scores , theem seem disinterested .
It's taken 3/4 of the Season for Taylor to realise that style his trying to get us to play just simply don't suit the players we have ( Brooks and Moses ) of the cuff type players and play what they see and are not so structured footballers that Taylor is trying to do .
There is no doubt that it's not easy being an NRL Coach but that is why they get paid accordingly.
It is the Coaches responsibility as he is responsible what happens at training and he directs them how to play .
Also him saying the results don't matter or where we are on the Ladder….is he for real ? Will see what he will be saying when the Club is trying to convince Members to renew there Memberships for 2016 ? people vote with there feet and if there not happy with the direction the Club is going they will soon know about it .
I'm not a fan of him and i'm not going to convince you to think otherwise or anyone else for that matter .
goldcoast_tiger
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@TrueTiger said:
Good.
who's the two new halves that are coming next year then . Seeing that we are now in new territory, where players have to perform. Hopefully that means useless Coaches as well
foreveratiger
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@Geo. said:
Of course they don't want the spoon but you can't tell me that there busting there gut for the cause , why should they bother ? they will still get picked in 1st Grade the following week.
Like i said Taylor has lost the dressing room
@hobbo2803 said:
So it's always someone else fault….so Ricky Henry and Arthur can coach that will do me..Are those sides playing finals footy? ... Is a 9th to 15th finish now somehow acceptable cause you didn't get a spoon...please..
@NT Tiger said:
mate theres no imagination needed at all here.
look at whats happened.
under taylors leadership, they have been extremely poor
when given freedom they have looked great and resembled the potential everyone saw earlier.
In the their last game - during a kick off, a commentator commented that the players had asked the coach "now that the seasons gone can we please free up and play footy" - and that was in regards to the way they kicked the ball at a kick off position.
earlier in the season - at a press conference -
aaron woods sat next to taylor and looked him up and down - while Taylor was dribbling that they had stuck to their game plan - they got smashed on that particular day.
body language of the players can and does reveal a lot more than a well trained media interview….
We're talking about young men who are looking for leadership that will enable them to play in a successful environment and ultimately have success.
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look at your young guns.
look at who their families are. Who their families closest friends and associates are.
look at who their managers are.
look at which other players are managed by their managers.
very quickly you will start to gain an insight into the "type" of advise their managers will have given them.
in a professional environment, any manager worth his salt will be advising them of their options.
if you want to play in a winning team......
If you want to be playing well enough to be eligible (or even thought of) for or working towards representative roles
if you want to be playing in a team thats competitive
if you want to be playing in an environment where you can be coached, taught and build on your skills......
if you want to play in a team with players you can learn from......
If you want to play in a team where the coach is a leader ............
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none of this imagination. No actual conversations have to be revealed here to state what anyone and evryone outside of the tigers can see here.
it might be hard to cop if you are a Jason Taylor fan but the reality is just what was said earlier.
and that is
can anyone name ANY senior player that will honestly say "i want to be coached by Jason taylor"
And that is also reflected and communicated by friends, family, managers and more importantly fellow league stars.
