Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[cktiger]

With Robbie leading the way and fighting for what he thinks is unfair treatment by the club, and with the RLPA backing him up, i think more players in the future will do the same, if they feel they've been genuinely, hard done by their clubs.
For too long now clubs had it all their own way.
It would also make clubs think twice about trying to shaft a player in the future.

Really? You say all this as if players are cleanskins and honour contracts no matter what. This a month after arguably our best player walked out mid contract. If players are so hard done by and the clubs have it all their own way, why did we release him? We didn't have to. There are many many more examples of players walking out on contracts, it goes both ways. You can't be serious if you think otherwise.

And don't you love the irony of people demanding the club honour Farah's contract, but sacking the coach mid contract would be acceptable.

Poor hard done Robbie the only reason he is still at the club is no one wants the baggage ,what unfair treatment he was told as with many before him and undoubtable many more in the future that he was no longer required as the club wants to go in a different direction in his position ..the only unfair treatment was the way he trashed the club with the help of his manager ..I make no excuses that I believe he should of been sacked last season and for the record if he wanted to leave the club as with any other players in any other club they just walk as the clubs knows to well they will make life hard . Poor hard done by players :bawling So it is alright that players bleed and leave clubs in the lurch but the clubs can do nothing to reorganise its roster Poor hard done Robbie!

The only reason he's still at the club is because he has a contract and chose not to leave.
Where all your bitterness towards him comes from only you know.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Until that press release comes out nothing is certain. Robbie is not that bad, the Tallis affair was more unfortunate than intentional. Other than that Robbie has attitude - so what is new Robbie has always had attitude and usually it is used in sticking up for the team during the game. I agree with was stated earlier today, that JT game plan only works if you have the appropriate players that WT did not have. And if that same strategy was repeatedly used and failed repeatedly then that is not good coaching. That is not Robbie's fault either. At least he always pulled his weight so did as much as possible to earn his salary, whether deserved or not. As I was correctly told in another thread to pick on someone else - well the same goes here.

 

[Snake]

With Robbie leading the way and fighting for what he thinks is unfair treatment by the club, and with the RLPA backing him up, i think more players in the future will do the same, if they feel they've been genuinely, hard done by their clubs.
For too long now clubs had it all their own way.
It would also make clubs think twice about trying to shaft a player in the future.

Really? You say all this as if players are cleanskins and honour contracts no matter what. This a month after arguably our best player walked out mid contract. If players are so hard done by and the clubs have it all their own way, why did we release him? We didn't have to. There are many many more examples of players walking out on contracts, it goes both ways. You can't be serious if you think otherwise.

And don't you love the irony of people demanding the club honour Farah's contract, but sacking the coach mid contract would be acceptable.

Poor hard done Robbie the only reason he is still at the club is no one wants the baggage ,what unfair treatment he was told as with many before him and undoubtable many more in the future that he was no longer required as the club wants to go in a different direction in his position ..the only unfair treatment was the way he trashed the club with the help of his manager ..I make no excuses that I believe he should of been sacked last season and for the record if he wanted to leave the club as with any other players in any other club they just walk as the clubs knows to well they will make life hard . Poor hard done by players :bawling So it is alright that players bleed and leave clubs in the lurch but the clubs can do nothing to reorganise its roster Poor hard done Robbie!

The only reason he's still at the club is because he has a contract and chose not to leave.
Where all your bitterness towards him comes from only you know.

There is no bitterness ,just hard facts ,his antics last year were totally unacceptable and he should of paid the price ..this year his employer told him his services were no longer required and told he would not be financially out of pocket if he could find another employer (alas not).His manager told the club not to advise him of this (this alone is bizarre ),the trashing of my club by his manager and his media mates is the last straw ..Farah has finally been kicked where it hurts and I give the guy that done it the thumbs up and not before time . I have always enjoyed except on a few occasions watching him play but his time is up at this club and I just hope he realises this as next year could be very testing for him …

 

[PJ_]

Really? You say all this as if players are cleanskins and honour contracts no matter what. This a month after arguably our best player walked out mid contract. If players are so hard done by and the clubs have it all their own way, why did we release him? We didn't have to. There are many many more examples of players walking out on contracts, it goes both ways. You can't be serious if you think otherwise.

And don't you love the irony of people demanding the club honour Farah's contract, but sacking the coach mid contract would be acceptable.

Poor hard done Robbie the only reason he is still at the club is no one wants the baggage ,what unfair treatment he was told as with many before him and undoubtable many more in the future that he was no longer required as the club wants to go in a different direction in his position ..the only unfair treatment was the way he trashed the club with the help of his manager ..I make no excuses that I believe he should of been sacked last season and for the record if he wanted to leave the club as with any other players in any other club they just walk as the clubs knows to well they will make life hard . Poor hard done by players :bawling So it is alright that players bleed and leave clubs in the lurch but the clubs can do nothing to reorganise its roster Poor hard done Robbie!

The only reason he's still at the club is because he has a contract and chose not to leave.
Where all your bitterness towards him comes from only you know.

There is no bitterness ,just hard facts ,his antics last year were totally unacceptable and he should of paid the price ..this year his employer told him his services were no longer required and told he would not be financially out of pocket if he could find another employer (alas not).His manager told the club not to advise him of this (this alone is bizarre ),the trashing of my club by his manager and his media mates is the last straw ..Farah has finally been kicked where it hurts and I give the guy that done it the thumbs up and not before time . I have always enjoyed except on a few occasions watching him play but his time is up at this club and I just hope he realises this as next year could be very testing for him …

100% agree. Spot on mate

 

[Tigermama]

Yeah the poor hard done by players alright.

Daly Cherry-Evens anyone?

It's not so much the high profile players I'm thinking off, but the less high profile and fringe players. I hope it encourages them to speak up and stand up for their rights.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

With Robbie leading the way and fighting for what he thinks is unfair treatment by the club, and with the RLPA backing him up, i think more players in the future will do the same, if they feel they've been genuinely, hard done by their clubs.
For too long now clubs had it all their own way.
It would also make clubs think twice about trying to shaft a player in the future.

Really? You say all this as if players are cleanskins and honour contracts no matter what. This a month after arguably our best player walked out mid contract. If players are so hard done by and the clubs have it all their own way, why did we release him? We didn't have to. There are many many more examples of players walking out on contracts, it goes both ways. You can't be serious if you think otherwise.

And don't you love the irony of people demanding the club honour Farah's contract, but sacking the coach mid contract would be acceptable.

I agree that players are the same as well
I think that they shouldn't be allowed to go wherever they like if they are still contracted.
clubs can sign players on back ended contracts by Coaches and clubs, knowing full well that they will be able to sell them off and clear cap space well before the contract is up. They'll still have to pay some of his contract money, but can still get away with paying less than if the player stayed.
In the meantime they may be able to get a squad together, with a better chance for a premiership .
Coaches are different, as they don't come into the cap, so if a club wants to get rid of a coach, that is not manipulating the Cap, as it is with players.
If a club wants to pay out the Coach, and can afford it then they can pay out as many as they want, and there is no affect on the cap.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Really? You say all this as if players are cleanskins and honour contracts no matter what. This a month after arguably our best player walked out mid contract. If players are so hard done by and the clubs have it all their own way, why did we release him? We didn't have to. There are many many more examples of players walking out on contracts, it goes both ways. You can't be serious if you think otherwise.

And don't you love the irony of people demanding the club honour Farah's contract, but sacking the coach mid contract would be acceptable.

Poor hard done Robbie the only reason he is still at the club is no one wants the baggage ,what unfair treatment he was told as with many before him and undoubtable many more in the future that he was no longer required as the club wants to go in a different direction in his position ..the only unfair treatment was the way he trashed the club with the help of his manager ..I make no excuses that I believe he should of been sacked last season and for the record if he wanted to leave the club as with any other players in any other club they just walk as the clubs knows to well they will make life hard . Poor hard done by players :bawling So it is alright that players bleed and leave clubs in the lurch but the clubs can do nothing to reorganise its roster Poor hard done Robbie!

The only reason he's still at the club is because he has a contract and chose not to leave.
Where all your bitterness towards him comes from only you know.

There is no bitterness ,just hard facts ,his antics last year were totally unacceptable and he should of paid the price ..this year his employer told him his services were no longer required and told he would not be financially out of pocket if he could find another employer (alas not).His manager told the club not to advise him of this (this alone is bizarre ),the trashing of my club by his manager and his media mates is the last straw ..Farah has finally been kicked where it hurts and I give the guy that done it the thumbs up and not before time . I have always enjoyed except on a few occasions watching him play but his time is up at this club and I just hope he realises this as next year could be very testing for him …

Well maybe by next season you and your venom can catch up with Taylor down at Centrelink and have a chat with him about how he kicked Farah where it hurts
, somehow Taylor has been sidelined , and do we still have a board, they seem to have pulled the hard hats on and are backing away from something it seems

 

[supercoach]

People keep bagging Taylor as a coach, take away the handling of the Farah thing and look at the nuts and bolts of his coaching.

Last year where we finished on the table did not reflect the gain we had made in over all standard as a NRL team. By the end of the season we were able to defend multiply sets in our own 20 and we actually had some attitude in defence. Now that has not been the case for a few years. Taylor copped a truck load of flack from most people at the start of the year when he had them playing one out and bomb football, but he was putting in place structures, the old saying you have to learn to walk before you can run.

This year will be the acid test, but he has been able to do some budget recruiting and our overall depth looks okay. I think he should be given at leat half year before we start calling for the hangman. I wonder what would happen if we actually won six from our first eight or nine, would all his distractors be still calling for his head. I known highly its unlikely, but its time to accept the fact that both Farah and Taylor will be around come round one, so get behind them and the club and look for positives

 

[Blaze]

Poor hard done Robbie the only reason he is still at the club is no one wants the baggage ,what unfair treatment he was told as with many before him and undoubtable many more in the future that he was no longer required as the club wants to go in a different direction in his position ..the only unfair treatment was the way he trashed the club with the help of his manager ..I make no excuses that I believe he should of been sacked last season and for the record if he wanted to leave the club as with any other players in any other club they just walk as the clubs knows to well they will make life hard . Poor hard done by players :bawling So it is alright that players bleed and leave clubs in the lurch but the clubs can do nothing to reorganise its roster Poor hard done Robbie!

The only reason he's still at the club is because he has a contract and chose not to leave.
Where all your bitterness towards him comes from only you know.

There is no bitterness ,just hard facts ,his antics last year were totally unacceptable and he should of paid the price ..this year his employer told him his services were no longer required and told he would not be financially out of pocket if he could find another employer (alas not).His manager told the club not to advise him of this (this alone is bizarre ),the trashing of my club by his manager and his media mates is the last straw ..Farah has finally been kicked where it hurts and I give the guy that done it the thumbs up and not before time . I have always enjoyed except on a few occasions watching him play but his time is up at this club and I just hope he realises this as next year could be very testing for him …

Well maybe by next season you and your venom can catch up with Taylor down at Centrelink and have a chat with him about how he kicked Farah where it hurts
, somehow Taylor has been sidelined , and do we still have a board, they seem to have pulled the hard hats on and are backing away from something it seems

How are they backing away from anything? They gave Farah an option to look around….. Nothing after that has changed one bit.... Taylor sidelined? Um how?, as far as I have seen, he is still the man bloke at training telling Farah and the rest what he wants. A reduced media presence maybe, but why would you bother the way the club has been treated of late? I'd pull my boys from doing interviews too if the media were being so reckless too..The only thing that has changed is that the bloke that's said something stupid and out of line, got sacked straight after. I think you may be getting carried away with media beat up just a little perhaps?

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

People keep bagging Taylor as a coach, take away the handling of the Farah thing and look at the nuts and bolts of his coaching.

Last year where we finished on the table did not reflect the gain we had made in over all standard as a NRL team. By the end of the season we were able to defend multiply sets in our own 20 and we actually had some attitude in defence. Now that has not been the case for a few years. Taylor copped a truck load of flack from most people at the start of the year when he had them playing one out and bomb football, but he was putting in place structures, the old saying you have to learn to walk before you can run.

This year will be the acid test, but he has been able to do some budget recruiting and our overall depth looks okay. I think he should be given at leat half year before we start calling for the hangman. I wonder what would happen if we actually won six from our first eight or nine, would all his distractors be still calling for his head. I known highly its unlikely, but its time to accept the fact that both Farah and Taylor will be around come round one, so get behind them and the club and look for positives

We won quite a few games in the beginning this year, and where did we finish…...?
Equal last!!!!
Obviously if there was anything that we improved under him, it wasn't enough, as more teams finished above us than ever before, Equal Last

 

[Blaze]

People keep bagging Taylor as a coach, take away the handling of the Farah thing and look at the nuts and bolts of his coaching.

Last year where we finished on the table did not reflect the gain we had made in over all standard as a NRL team. By the end of the season we were able to defend multiply sets in our own 20 and we actually had some attitude in defence. Now that has not been the case for a few years. Taylor copped a truck load of flack from most people at the start of the year when he had them playing one out and bomb football, but he was putting in place structures, the old saying you have to learn to walk before you can run.

This year will be the acid test, but he has been able to do some budget recruiting and our overall depth looks okay. I think he should be given at leat half year before we start calling for the hangman. I wonder what would happen if we actually won six from our first eight or nine, would all his distractors be still calling for his head. I known highly its unlikely, but its time to accept the fact that both Farah and Taylor will be around come round one, so get behind them and the club and look for positives

We won quite a few games in the beginning this year, and where did we finish…...?
Equal last!!!!
Obviously if there was anything that we improved under him, it wasn't enough, as more teams finished above us than ever before, Equal Last

Your forgetting that we are a very young side with our halves last season being absolute turnstiles in defence… And that was the reason for playing like we did, to develop a defence based mindset in these young blokes.. It was stated by the coach early on in the season, which even the players were all said to be onboard to a bigger plan to develop..our for and against was better than the team running in at 11th position... The improvement was there to see.. We were never going to win the comp with a squad that young, and I believe we made a huge leap forward in defence skills.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I think the major reason we came equal last was due to Robbie being out so long. If he was there all the time and uninjured we would have at least being half way. I can understand ambitious supporters not being happy with that situation but that is reality with SOO being the big drawcard. The club mistakenly asked Farah to leave because of his fan base and that fan base is justified due to Robbie's passion for the game. So now they are moving in the correct direction (if commentators are correct) and have to make the best with the cards in their hand. If the goodwill is back on all sides that is our best chance.

 

[stevetiger]

People keep bagging Taylor as a coach, take away the handling of the Farah thing and look at the nuts and bolts of his coaching.

Last year where we finished on the table did not reflect the gain we had made in over all standard as a NRL team. By the end of the season we were able to defend multiply sets in our own 20 and we actually had some attitude in defence. Now that has not been the case for a few years. Taylor copped a truck load of flack from most people at the start of the year when he had them playing one out and bomb football, but he was putting in place structures, the old saying you have to learn to walk before you can run.

This year will be the acid test, but he has been able to do some budget recruiting and our overall depth looks okay. I think he should be given at leat half year before we start calling for the hangman. I wonder what would happen if we actually won six from our first eight or nine, would all his distractors be still calling for his head. I known highly its unlikely, but its time to accept the fact that both Farah and Taylor will be around come round one, so get behind them and the club and look for positives

I think the idea that Taylor got our structures defensively right at the start of the is laughable. I think Taylor has recruited well and I think he typically choose the right team and I hope that he has learned that he has to give the team a winning game plan. I honestly think he didn't realize that at the start of last year or maybe better put he didn't have the ability at that point to give the team a winning game plan.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

The only reason he's still at the club is because he has a contract and chose not to leave.
Where all your bitterness towards him comes from only you know.

There is no bitterness ,just hard facts ,his antics last year were totally unacceptable and he should of paid the price ..this year his employer told him his services were no longer required and told he would not be financially out of pocket if he could find another employer (alas not).His manager told the club not to advise him of this (this alone is bizarre ),the trashing of my club by his manager and his media mates is the last straw ..Farah has finally been kicked where it hurts and I give the guy that done it the thumbs up and not before time . I have always enjoyed except on a few occasions watching him play but his time is up at this club and I just hope he realises this as next year could be very testing for him …

Well maybe by next season you and your venom can catch up with Taylor down at Centrelink and have a chat with him about how he kicked Farah where it hurts
, somehow Taylor has been sidelined , and do we still have a board, they seem to have pulled the hard hats on and are backing away from something it seems

How are they backing away from anything? They gave Farah an option to look around….. Nothing after that has changed one bit.... Taylor sidelined? Um how?, as far as I have seen, he is still the man bloke at training telling Farah and the rest what he wants. A reduced media presence maybe, but why would you bother the way the club has been treated of late? I'd pull my boys from doing interviews too if the media were being so reckless too..The only thing that has changed is that the bloke that's said something stupid and out of line, got sacked straight after. I think you may be getting carried away with media beat up just a little perhaps?

And isn't the rugby league world much poorer for the loss of JT's famous off the cuff door stop media interviews. Was it at the start of this year when he regaled us with his equally famous defensive strategy; the one that would have us well placed for an assault on the summit of the NRL's Everest. We all now know we didn't leave base camp and finished equal last. No wonder he has a media ban slapped upon him.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

if its true there is a media ban on Taylor, he needs to walk.

 

[Blaze]

There is no bitterness ,just hard facts ,his antics last year were totally unacceptable and he should of paid the price ..this year his employer told him his services were no longer required and told he would not be financially out of pocket if he could find another employer (alas not).His manager told the club not to advise him of this (this alone is bizarre ),the trashing of my club by his manager and his media mates is the last straw ..Farah has finally been kicked where it hurts and I give the guy that done it the thumbs up and not before time . I have always enjoyed except on a few occasions watching him play but his time is up at this club and I just hope he realises this as next year could be very testing for him …

Well maybe by next season you and your venom can catch up with Taylor down at Centrelink and have a chat with him about how he kicked Farah where it hurts
, somehow Taylor has been sidelined , and do we still have a board, they seem to have pulled the hard hats on and are backing away from something it seems

How are they backing away from anything? They gave Farah an option to look around….. Nothing after that has changed one bit.... Taylor sidelined? Um how?, as far as I have seen, he is still the man bloke at training telling Farah and the rest what he wants. A reduced media presence maybe, but why would you bother the way the club has been treated of late? I'd pull my boys from doing interviews too if the media were being so reckless too..The only thing that has changed is that the bloke that's said something stupid and out of line, got sacked straight after. I think you may be getting carried away with media beat up just a little perhaps?

And isn't the rugby league world much poorer for the loss of JT's famous off the cuff door stop media interviews. Was it at the start of this year when he regaled us with his equally famous defensive strategy; the one that would have us well placed for an assault on the summit of the NRL's Everest. We all now know we didn't leave base camp and finished equal last. No wonder he has a media ban slapped upon him.

Oh right, your one of those that wants all the results straight away… My apologies. We get it, you hate Taylor... Congrats.

 

[Blaze]

if its true there is a media ban on Taylor, he needs to walk.

It wouldn't be true mate, the club and Taylor just have nothing else to say, purely because there is nothing doing, which is why the media have the need to make stuff up to satisfy the nuffies…

 

[Russell]

Say what you like.

We finished 15th and not equal last.
For and against is the criteria and that put us 2nd last.

If you have a better for an against and are equal eighth, who is 8 and who is 9.
I think you would find 9 are not going to play finals football.

You can say I am picky all you like, but you are either correct or incorrect.
Saying we ran equal last is incorrect.

Now, please go on with your JT agendas.

 

[Geo]

if its true there is a media ban on Taylor, he needs to walk.

He spoke to the Media on 9 News the night Ritchie's 'exclusive' broke …saying the Clubs position hasn't changed....as per the last Official statement on the matter Justin Pascoe said that the Club would continue to work with Farah and his management regarding his playing future with Wests Tigers....details of those conversations set to remain confidential....

What is Taylor supposed to say...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

if its true there is a media ban on Taylor, he needs to walk.

He spoke to the Media on 9 News the night Ritchie's 'exclusive' broke …saying the Clubs position hasn't changed....as per the last Official statement on the matter Justin Pascoe said that the Club would continue to work with Farah and his management regarding his playing future with Wests Tigers....details of those conversations set to remain confidential....

What is Taylor supposed to say...

I also like how people think Pascoe has come in and is now running the club with an iron first and somehow the board has cowered to him as a result.

Huh?

Pascoe answers to the board, not the other way around.