So what does this mean with regards to Lui and the club ! I too hope the young couple can work out their differences, and other issues that Lui may have - so that he can be reinstated with the team, as he appears to have lots of talent, and it would be a great pity if we lose him :bulb:
Robert Lui Incident/Contract Thread
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Hopefully good news for the Tigers if the story follows the Inglis precident.
@Spartan117 said:
For mine I don't want it to just follow the precedent set by the Inglis case simply for the sake of keeping him at the club. If he is guilty he should be found so and rightly punished for his actions.
innsaneink
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I just want him to turn into a great 7 for us, I couldnt give a stuff about his personal life, its none of our business.
@innsaneink said:
I somewhat agree with you Ink. I would love for him to stay on and go on to be a club great for the Tigers, but if it all comes out in the wash and he's found guilty I don't the club tarnishing its image by retaining him. No one player is greater than the club.
We are extremely lucky that we follow a club where they're not in the headlines for all the wrong reasons, and I would like it to stay that way.
tig_prmz
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@innsaneink said:
I kinda disagree. That is because I love the culture Sheens has built in this club. Yeh I know I have gone on about this in the other thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sheens kicks him out like Daley.
As for his personal life, I know it's none of our business but if he has assaulted his girlfriend, I would be really upset if he actually did stay at the Tigers after this.
Also, I don't wanna cause any trouble or anything and this is just my opinion. I tried to do that in another thread and got smashed. :laughing: :laughing:
If he is found guilty, and we let him go.. what happens then.. he takes off the 12 mths cause the NRL suspend him then he returns to another NRL club.. aka CARNEY and BIRD.. who looses out.. THE CLUB…. it prooves nothing.. if the club wants to keep its image it makes it VERY CLEAR they are putting him through counciling and help courses...
Troy
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@Cultured Bogan said:
Its the Law that punishes or lets him go - Not the NRL or the WT.
I just wanna see the guy with his mrs and playing in our no 7
@T-REXX said:
Agreed, in this case the WTs would lose out as did Cronulla and Canberra in that the clubs developed these players then they lose them albeit necessarily so because of the actions of the players however the NRL should introduce a rule whereby when the player is due back from suspension, the club they were at before suspension should have first opportunity to recruit the player back again if the club wishes to.
innsaneink
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@tigeress said:
Its as simple or as complicated as you wish to make it.
If he is merely a player of a team we support - nothing more- then its very simple.
If we go deeper, into his private family & personal life….then it starts to get tricky.
@Cultured Bogan said:
Are you suggesting Inglis was guilty?
@Yossarian said:
Perhaps I should have clarified that better. I believe the club should not be getting involved with his case and should be letting Lui fight it himself. Lui has put himself in a position to have this situation brought upon him and it is his responsibility, not the club, to deal with it. Inglis (as was Stewart,) was still playing for his club when serious charges were haning over his head.
I still think Cronulla and Canberra both did the right thing with Carney and Bird. Sure Bird wasn't convicted but he'd brought a whole lot of bad publicity to a club already on its knees.
I am suggesting that if anyone is found guilty of a crime they should be punished in accordance with the law. As far as I'm concerned, some places will not hire you if you've been convicted of a serious crime as they do not want to tarnish the company's image. I don't want to see Robbie go, but I don't want the club to be associated with felons either. We've had too many drug addicts, alleged rapists, and serial criminals play within our ranks for my liking.
Hopefully it all comes out in the wash and Robbie is found not guilty and everyone can go on with their lives. I personally don't care for his personal life. If footballers misbehaving didn't get such coverage in the media to the point where it reflects upon the club they play for, I wouldn't care what they got up to. I'm grateful we support a club that has a relatively cleanskin image and we don't have a toxic image like that of the Bulldogs, Roosters, Newcastle or Canberra and I would like it to stay that way.
And for what it's worth I don't think Inglis was innocent, but he is in the eyes of the law and it holds precedence over my humble opinion.
redemption
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The Telegraph reports that Lui returned to training yesterday after the alteration to his bail conditions on Monday.
He is due back in court on December 20th - and undoubtedly his status with the club hinges on the outcome of these pending court appearances.
I am glad he is back with the boys for now - as I think that it is the best thing for his stability and state of mind!
As for Inglis - while having no conviction recorded - he essentially pled guilty and did a deal with the prosecution. That does not equate to a not-guilty finding!
He is due back in court on December 20th - and undoubtedly his status with the club hinges on the outcome of these pending court appearances.
I am glad he is back with the boys for now - as I think that it is the best thing for his stability and state of mind!
As for Inglis - while having no conviction recorded - he essentially pled guilty and did a deal with the prosecution. That does not equate to a not-guilty finding!
@redemption said:
Apologies, Yoss asked if i suggested he was guilty. I made the assumption that he was found not guilty based on his question to me. Will gladly eat the humble pie on this one.
redemption
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Not correcting you CB - just pointing out that a "no conviction recorded" determination is not a "not guilty" finding as others throughout the NRL community seem to have assumed!
I must admit I wasn't totally up to speed with the final outcome. I thought his defence rested on the assertion that he was trying to save his girlfriend from harming herself but having read some more now it seems that this was not mentioned in the trial.
Also he was ordered to undergo some sort of anger management course and donate money to a women's health group, so maybe the original defence was a bit of a red herring. Or maybe given the lack of conviction and token sentence, perhaps Inglis' legal team suggested it was better than trying to defend it.
Hard to say what happened really.
Also he was ordered to undergo some sort of anger management course and donate money to a women's health group, so maybe the original defence was a bit of a red herring. Or maybe given the lack of conviction and token sentence, perhaps Inglis' legal team suggested it was better than trying to defend it.
Hard to say what happened really.
redemption
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The defence sought a downgrade to the original charges and no conviction to be recorded pending a guilty plea - a commitment to counselling and a significant financial contribution to a domestic violence charity!
No actual defence against the prosecution brief was offered!
They also negotiated a suppression order with the court against release of the details of the deal to the public!
$113,000 well spent - but very easy money for the silks!
No actual defence against the prosecution brief was offered!
They also negotiated a suppression order with the court against release of the details of the deal to the public!
$113,000 well spent - but very easy money for the silks!
When I said hard to say what happened I meant the actual incident but that's a very good run down of the legal side of it. The suppression order is interesting…
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