LIVE GAME Round 14 v the Panthers

[innsaneink]

Hold on, hold on... what's happened to Blind Freddy?

He works with Junky Joey

 

[TheEnz]

I honestly don't think it's just a Tigers thing - some players cannot excel outside of excellent systems.

The players we are referencing here were doing well at Storm and Panthers, two of the best and continuously successful systems. And they were plonked into ordinary systems with ordinary rosters. Warriors are another prime example - they have signed some unbelievable talent over the years but it's really only clicked when their system was doing the hard work, e.g. back in the Stacey Jones era or now under Webster.

So you need threats across the park for important players to excel, otherwise the opposition will just double-up in defence. This was very evident when Tigers were last good in 2010-11, when Benji had strong options on both sides of the park (Ellis, Dwyer, Lawrence) and Farah / Lui / Moltzen to offer alternatives in attack.

Tedesco had the same thing when he joined Roosters. He didn't play better than he played at Tigers (he was already playing Origin at this stage), he just had less responsibility and more threats within his team, to pressure the defence.

spot on, high performing sports teams are like a domino effect, each high quality player pulls the next one up a few notches and the more good players you have the higher the baseline for the rest....unfortunately the same is true in reverse and that's what we are seeing now...early season with a full strength team we looked like a top 4 side, take 3 of our top players out and the bottom across the team drops.

 

[Tigerdazz2]

The incredibly quick speed of the play the ball from Penrith vs Wests Tigers on Sunday gone comes down to the pure hunger of their players & the inability of the Tigers to legally slow their play the ball.

From SEN:
“Their play of the ball speed was just out of sight yesterday, 3.34 seconds, fastest in the round. (It’s) just so quick and therefore (there’s) so much pressure on the opposition to be able to reset and get off the line."

 

[hodgo]

The incredibly quick speed of the play the ball from Penrith vs Wests Tigers on Sunday gone comes down to the pure hunger of their players & the inability of the Tigers to legally slow their play the ball.

From SEN:
“Their play of the ball speed was just out of sight yesterday, 3.34 seconds, fastest in the round. (It’s) just so quick and therefore (there’s) so much pressure on the opposition to be able to reset and get off the line."

we got pinned every time we tried they didnt seem to. I know it not our only reason for losing but man it seems to happen a bit

 

[EllisFan]

we got pinned every time we tried they didnt seem to. I know it not our only reason for losing but man it seems to happen a bit

Pretty easy tape to break down this week. Penrith ran harder, tackled harder and respected the ball.

One thing to identify it, another to fix it.

Hopefully the embarrassment hit hard.