LIVE GAME Round 17v Manly

[Droppy05]

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I said tongue in cheek, last year that we may get a set (6). Unfortunately that is seeming more probable than possible. Funny if the rift go for the same number of titles.

 

[TSP]

No he was considered maybe he did an interview but they decided to go Mal with Gardiner joining him as an assistant. Des is done as a coach you can’t have the likes of Tino, Fifita, AKP, Brimson, Campbell as well as other talented players they have and be dead last. It might not be a premiership winning team it’s sure not a bottom 4 team on paper for them. Brad is the only one available that we can make a claim for for a new coach, otherwise Benji most likely gets the job for next year.

Yeah, I’m sorry you’re dead right.

 

[Needaname]

So what was worse tonight - the way we played or the way were were coached?

Obviously the unforced errors aren’t at the result of the coaching.
The chopping and changing of our spine definitely is.
The question I have which makes all the difference in a match;
Is it the coaching or the players that has them recieving hit ups with a 1 or 2 step run up?
Watch the other teams take a hit up; from either their backline or their forward pack, it is all done at speed!

 

[innsaneink]

They have a coach that has done his apprenticeship under very good coaches. He is starting to get a structure to the eels and once Moses is back they will be threatening the good sides.
Will finish ahead of us by a mile.

Theyre playing pretty good at the moment....would rather be in their shoes than ours

 

[TSP]

It all starts in the forwards. I thought this was a game we would win the middle battle but alas 🤬

Why can we NEVER win the forward battle? Every week it seems the opposition run harder & tackle harder especially the first 10 mins in each half. It has been this way since at least the end of the Maguire regime.

Why? It has to be coaching & strategy. Can someone explain why this happens every bloody week?

kpp is coming…

 

[Droppy05]

The team selections and interchange reeks of a coach who’s clueless, directionless and is clutching at straws.

Reminds me of when Fittler was at the Roosters in 2009 and played Anasta in fullback. Roosters had the sense to sack him that year and move onto an experienced coach in Smith.

Very good analogy. Good player that never made it as a good coach.

 

[Glenji95]

Yeah, I’m sorry you’re dead right.

Des was a great coach in his day but sadly his time has passed. I also think though a lot of quality coaches wouldn’t put their hand up if the job did become available.

 

[Droppy05]

Brads at the bears isn’t he?

I think Des is the best option.

But Benji is likely to get another year unless we spoon.

Wait for Luai to activate exit clause and Benji will be gone.

 

[TSP]

Des was a great coach in his day but sadly his time has passed. I also think though a lot of quality coaches wouldn’t put their hand up if the job did become available.

A lot of people would agree with you.

 

[Jolls]

Obviously the unforced errors aren’t at the result of the coaching.
The chopping and changing of our spine definitely is.
The question I have which makes all the difference in a match;
Is it the coaching or the players that has them recieving hit ups with a 1 or 2 step run up?
Watch the other teams take a hit up; from either their backline or their forward pack, it is all done at speed!

Has anyone ever at training since U7's come off a 2 step run up? There is something amiss here, I'm willing to bet that what is being practiced isn't ebing executed; but why?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Des was a great coach in his day but sadly his time has passed. I also think though a lot of quality coaches wouldn’t put their hand up if the job did become available.

Not ones who had better opportunities, Not even rookies with potential are willing to take the job (Ciraldo). Our best hope is an experienced coach who doesn’t really have much hope of getting another gig somewhere else. A Brad Arthur type. Or even Des if he gets the sack. Surely he is running out of chances.

 

[Furious1]

It all starts in the forwards. I thought this was a game we would win the middle battle but alas 🤬

Why can we NEVER win the forward battle? Every week it seems the opposition run harder & tackle harder especially the first 10 mins in each half. It has been this way since at least the end of the Maguire regime.

Why? It has to be coaching & strategy. Can someone explain why this happens every bloody week?

Exactly. May and Pole in particular were easily outplayed by their opposites. Once again I bring it back to coaching. Earn the right to ball play by winning the middle first. It just never happened tonight. They were too busy fluffing around instead of charging through the middle and then getting up for quick play the balls.

 

[Glenji95]

A lot of people would agree with you.

Maybe mate. I understand why the ones on here want Benji gone, but there isn’t real quality out there to replace him with.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Obviously the unforced errors aren’t at the result of the coaching.
The chopping and changing of our spine definitely is.
The question I have which makes all the difference in a match;
Is it the coaching or the players that has them recieving hit ups with a 1 or 2 step run up?
Watch the other teams take a hit up; from either their backline or their forward pack, it is all done at speed!

That’s what I’m asking too. We never dominate the middle. Why are we coached this way? It is not conducive to winning regularly & awfully frustrating to watch. We could have Payne Haas & still lose the middle.

 

[TSP]

Wait for Luai to activate exit clause and Benji will be gone.

Flanno?

 

[cone]

Neither would come here

Exactly

 

[Glenji95]

Not ones who had better opportunities, Not even rookies with potential are willing to take the job (Ciraldo). Our best hope is an experienced coach who doesn’t really have much hope of getting another gig somewhere else. A Brad Arthur type. Or even Des if he gets the sack. Surely he is running out of chances.

Des is done there’s no way he gets a head coach job after this gig. Brad Arthur is the only one that’s available that has some quality but even he’s not the greatest coach in the game.

 

[gallagher]

Can only hope, got tickets to the races on Saturday hopefully I can win there then put it all on the roosters, would be happy to lose that bet just to see the tigers win

Have a look at Spywire , race 5

 

[cone]

I think one of the most embarrassing things I hear quite often is how all the players talk about how Benji 'jumps in' with them at training. No other head coach would do that shit. It's childish and reeks of an inexperienced coach, he can be their mate but he also has to be their boss. Doing set plays among them just carving them up isn't helping anybody and honestly makes them view him as one of the boys/players instead of their coach.

 

[watersider]

This is a really bad moment for our club...

The results haven't been there but we've hidden behind close score lines. In reality, our play is declining this year, attack still lacking and players like TDS, Galvin (before he left and Samuela (promising young players) are all declining.

The thing that gets me about our play is our hesitancy and indecisiveness, especially in the forwards. Players seem in two minds all the time about where to be and what to do, out players take hit ups really deep and flat footed and it's almost like they don't expect it.

Then there are our incredibly slow play the balls where our players stop and have a chat with a referee before actually playing it.

Then there's all the tampering and switching by Benji giving them even less sense of trust.

We look like the worst team in the comp. Slow, weak and dumb. Plenty of good players look poor. I don't like to blame coaches, but they have a responsibility to get us better or walk away.

Last year I saw a 'training' session and it was random and half hearted beside API and Sullivan. Lots of standing around, lots of choppy stop start transitions and very little that looked like it linked together.

That was diabolical.