LIVE GAME Round 5 versus Eels

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mtd#2 said:
Javon looks sharp with the ball its his defence that concerns me.

Toa looked ok. Id walk him straight back in and its his jersey to lose. Turuva isnt a centre and we need maka on the wing.

I saw Herbert stuff up a basic defensive read that led to a try, I wrote him off after that.
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What's your fascination with To'a? If he can't outplay people in cup, what makes you think he deserves to be gifted NRL opportunity? His performances for most of last year were horrible. He needs to play in cup, perform well and prove he deserves selection
 
Camel2281 said:
What's your fascination with To'a? If he can't outplay people in cup, what makes you think he deserves to be gifted NRL opportunity? His performances for most of last year were horrible. He needs to play in cup, perform well and prove he deserves selection
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He was playing injured last year. I dont think he needs 10 games in Reggie's to prove himself. If he has one or two matches thats enough.

Re your other reply to me, turuva is better on the wing for us.
 
innsaneink said:
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Parra fans trying to go at LL

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It’s the way of the world these days….people speak or act to each other like they’ve never been smacked in the mouth….and that is because most haven’t.
It’s easy to act tough when you are 99.99% sure there’ll be no ramifications. 30 years ago someone in the crowd would have cleaned those two maggots up for carrying on like that.
Today…it just doesn’t happen much anymore.
 
Our defence won the game yesterday. Our Coaching staff have all in the team much fitter resulting in big improvement in defending. Api 57 tackles, Twal 51 and KPP 46 tackles , and all playing big minutes, incredible stats .
“ No one ever drowned in sweat!” One of Jack Gibson’s best quotes referring to training hard in pre-season to improve in defence. Were on the up for sure!!
 
Tucker said:
It’s the way of the world these days….people speak or act to each other like they’ve never been smacked in the mouth….and that is because most haven’t.
It’s easy to act tough when you are 99.99% sure there’ll be no ramifications. 30 years ago someone in the crowd would have cleaned those two maggots up for carrying on like that.
Today…it just doesn’t happen much anymore.
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If you acted that way at the El Rancho pub in North Ryde back in the day you would of been knocked on your arse with missing teeth.
 
Tucker said:
It’s the way of the world these days….people speak or act to each other like they’ve never been smacked in the mouth….and that is because most haven’t.
It’s easy to act tough when you are 99.99% sure there’ll be no ramifications. 30 years ago someone in the crowd would have cleaned those two maggots up for carrying on like that.
Today…it just doesn’t happen much anymore.
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Jolls said:
That was my thoughts as well until I looked it up this morning. There is no definition of what cleard the ruck means so the NRL rule interpretation is that the Ref calls go when the ruck is clear so no movement can be mande until that call. See the post for the detail here.

I don't recall the refs calling go each and every tackle so pretty sure it is loosely officiated. I think it is very strange that having the ball clear the ruck is not defined clearly.
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Alwats thought the 'ruck' was deined as the player playing the ball and the marker...but thats going back some time now.
 
innsaneink said:
Alwats thought the 'ruck' was deined as the player playing the ball and the marker...but thats going back some time now.
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Used to be - in the dim dark ages of the 5 yard rule - that you could move off the mark as soon as the foot was on the ball - that is when the rules were clear an unambiguous. It was also a time where playing the ball was a contest between the man playing the ball and the marker and the ruck was defined as you say - the area between the back foot of both players. Not sure why the international rules don't define the ruck (they should) and the NRL has imposed the burden on the referees.

As an aside - first marker was always seen as an opportunity to win the ball back early in the tackle count; especially if the hooker made the tackle and was last up.
 
Jolls said:
Used to be - in the dim dark ages of the 5 yard rule - that you could move off the mark as soon as the foot was on the ball - that is when the rules were clear an unambiguous. It was also a time where playing the ball was a contest between the man playing the ball and the marker and the ruck was defined as you say - the area between the back foot of both players. Not sure why the international rules don't define the ruck (they should) and the NRL has imposed the burden on the referees.

As an aside - first marker was always seen as an opportunity to win the ball back early in the tackle count; especially if the hooker made the tackle and was last up.
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That was when the game was still based on skill imho,unfortunately these days it is all about power.Don't get me wrong i still enjoy watching the game but it has stagnated in many ways.
 
jadtiger said:
That was when the game was still based on skill imho,unfortunately these days it is all about power.Don't get me wrong i still enjoy watching the game but it has stagnated in many ways.
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The game has definitley changed over the years. I was lucky enough to play under several of the rule changes - but the skill component of the game has definitely changed. In some ways modern players are much more skillful but in other areas they have lost the art of the game in favour of systems. I don't recall which game it was on the weekend that someone did a pass around the body of the defender and the commentators were flabbergasted. That was just a normal day at the office once.

I like the way Benji is approaching the game - asking the players to express themselves - I trust it is the undoing of much of the systems approach to the game. We have a way to go - but bringing skill back into the game to overcome power will make it a much better game to watch and play.
 
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Jolls said:
The game has definitley changed over the years. I was lucky enough to play under several of the rule changes - but the skill component of the game has definitely changed. In some ways modern players are much more skillful but in other areas they have lost the art of the game in favour of sytems. I don't recall which game it was on the weekend that someone did a pass around the body of the defender and the commentators were flabbergasted. That was just a normal day at the office once.

I like the way Benji is approaching the game - asking the players to express themselves - I trust it is the undoing of much of the systems approach to the game. We have a way to go - but bringing skill back into the game to overcome power will make it a much better game to watch and play.
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Excellent point, nowhere is it seen more than in the halfback position. Theyve just become so robotic, as soon as a half does something like a chip and chase or just a play out of the ordinary its seen as amazing, but the halves in the 80s and 90s were doing those things all the time.
 
liltiger said:
Excellent point, nowhere is it seen more than in the halfback position. Theyve just become so robotic, as soon as a half does something like a chip and chase or just a play out of the ordinary its seen as amazing, but the halves in the 80s and 90s were doing those things all the time.
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This is why I like where Benji is taking us so much. I know that it looks a littel chaotic at the moment but it is a controlled chaos. With time and exposure the skills will develop further - Twal and May need to watch a bit of Beetson in his prime - Twal off May up the middle would be dynamic.
 
Jolls said:
This is why I like where Benji is taking us so much. I know that it looks a littel chaotic at the moment but it is a controlled chaos. With time and exposure the skills will develop further - Twal and May need to watch a bit of Beetson in his prime - Twal off May up the middle would be dynamic.
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If they maintain the trajectory and tidy up some of the headless chicken runs in the attacking red zone they will be the most entertaining team to watch by a long shot. Although I am in awe of the Panthers at the moment, almost like watching perfection on both sides of the ball.
 
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