I think the positional change should be Luai at six and Madden at seven where to fit a AD is a interesting one —but in the press conference last night Benji said I put Jock on to try and ice the game isn’t that telling us something? ?Should’ve put him in sooner, I think.(benji obviously had no confidence in us winning without madden at that stage of the gamevery strange.)
LIVE GAME Round 7 versus Brisbane
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Must be the reason we lost last night
crazycat
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I agree with almost all of this.
Why not Turuva and Tavana as wings? Or bring a Skelton in out of the closet?
May + AD as centers is probably a good pairing.
One of the things I dislike about Benji's coaching style is he doesn't respect combinations. Players need to feel comfortable playing around the same players.
We are chopping and changing our backline and we need people to feel comfortable with who they are playing with.
Jock + AD formed a good combination. We need to keep our backline similar throughout the season so that wingers trust their centers and people don't move in on defense. Sadly we keep changing now and TayTay May returning has added talent while breaking working combinations.
We changed too much this game. We still did well, Brisbane is a top side but we need to do better, just stop changing so much Benji.
hank37w
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While people are having a sulk they could also argue that maybe those 6 agains were given for a reason, just a shame we didn't do much with them.
You could also ask why then with so many 6 agains in the red zone why weren't the Broncos even issued a warning about repeated infringements.
hank37w
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Definitely need a bigger Magpie. 🤣
Rock Hopper Steve
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Lol, stirring the pot for the bird stew of choice, you're a bad man hank.
Haven't commented till now been busy
However Benji
give the kid Makasini a break in Nsw Cup for a couple of weeks to regain some confidence which must be shot to bits at the moment
His 6 errors must be some kind of record
You have Toa or Skelton on the sideline .If either were in his place I dare say we might have won over Broncos ( i know Skelton had a brain snap vs Knights last week but with Makasini its a pattern week after week )
However Benji
give the kid Makasini a break in Nsw Cup for a couple of weeks to regain some confidence which must be shot to bits at the moment
His 6 errors must be some kind of record
You have Toa or Skelton on the sideline .If either were in his place I dare say we might have won over Broncos ( i know Skelton had a brain snap vs Knights last week but with Makasini its a pattern week after week )
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Tucker
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Did our on field leaders approach the ref and state this case?
If this was Parra, Moses would have made sure someone got 10 in the bin.
Other comment Andrew Voss is so biased against tigers
Questioned Warriors sin bin vs Tigers like he doesn't know the rules
Constantly deriding tigers with so many years since won 4 in a row which he mentioned 10 times I counted on replay .
He constantly talked up poor struggling Broncos and Tigers excessive fan base making it a "cauldron " for poor Bronx
Looks for reason why Tigers trys might be disallowed with no such scrutiny on other team .
He tries to sound impartial but in Tigers games he fails at this .
He annoys the sh* t out of me !
Questioned Warriors sin bin vs Tigers like he doesn't know the rules
Constantly deriding tigers with so many years since won 4 in a row which he mentioned 10 times I counted on replay .
He constantly talked up poor struggling Broncos and Tigers excessive fan base making it a "cauldron " for poor Bronx
Looks for reason why Tigers trys might be disallowed with no such scrutiny on other team .
He tries to sound impartial but in Tigers games he fails at this .
He annoys the sh* t out of me !
hank37w
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Moses has quietened down in that area in the last 2 weeks but couldn't help but notice that he is still pretty close with the adjudicating officials, only too happy to share a drink with the referee during a stoppage in the game.
I saw Adam Reynolds complain to the ref about all the 6 agains. Todd smith said he will take them into account. Never gave anither 6 again after that. Even with bronx still being all over us. Yet when we were on them for even half the time they were on us they were awarded them.
jrtiger
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games against good sides like Brisbane come down to a few key moments and we didn't get them right. it doesn't come down to the Bunker or Todd Smith, it was simply down to execution or lapses on WT's part. teams like Brisbane will make you pay regardless of the amount of ball they have, and they did.
the game model is there and the system holds up, it's simply down to execution, particularly inside the 20.
short turnaround after a brutal clash and result isn't ideal, but if there is one positive it means they can flush it quickly. Canberra are going to be bloody tough.
the game model is there and the system holds up, it's simply down to execution, particularly inside the 20.
short turnaround after a brutal clash and result isn't ideal, but if there is one positive it means they can flush it quickly. Canberra are going to be bloody tough.
Jolls
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Good analysis - we played to our system and went close to getting the bickies. The game was lost on moments not the system, the effort or the performance of AD and Luai (although both could have been better).
I didn't get to watch the game live as I was at a wedding at Monkerai - no phone or internet coverage. Two of my sons are Broncos supporters so despite trying to insulate myself from the result so I could watch the replay as if it was live it didn't happen. I just finished watching the replay having read through the live game thread. I was expecting to see absolute shit show performances from Luai and AD; but it wasn't the case at all.
If you look at the game objectively:
- We crossed the stripe on three occasions on top of what we scored only to be held up or called back for an obstruction - the system is working
- The first of the Donkeys tries was off a forward pass
- Makasini had a game like Edwards early in his career with a couple of bad drops - but he was pretty solid otherwise. It happens!
- The penalty against Api was ridiculous he was well clear of the ruck!
- Running the ball into touch when we could have levelled the game was a gamble that didn't pay off - I'm sure we expected to have another shot at it - but Reynolds got us again.
- The Broncs defence was up and in (and quite offside down on their line) but yet again we did not choose to kick in behind to relieve the pressure or take advantage of it.
- AD was doing a lot of 6 play off Luai but the Boncs defence was up for it. This was the opportunity to skip to the outside or kick in behind - instead we tended to kill the play by running. This is exactly the same issue we had v Souths - our system breaks down too often in this situation.
- AD's drop off plays are so telegraphed it is like watching U/15s so the defence picking up KPP against the grain was pretty easy.
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liltiger
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No, though weve seen worse let go. Every chance the second one could have been allowed. The first one though was worse.
Rock Hopper Steve
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Glad you picked up on the donkeys forward pass Jolls, they get away with a hell of a lot of them in their games that lead to tries especially at Suncorp.
All this talk from the NRL to try technologies to pick them up has gone cold, with all the changes they keep making, they should be looking at this glairing blight on the game that hasn't been solved for decades.
With the speed of the modern game, you can give excuses for the ref and Bengal lancers but no excuses when it's right in front of their eyes, fatigue affecting judgement or just head up arses.
liltiger
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True, though my point is worse have been let go. They just as easily could have allowed them through.
TheEnz
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Agree with your analysis Jolls, we cant forget that this is a team (broncs) that won plenty of games last year without their starting halves and fullback. Reyno is a bloody gem of a player, that field goal not only got them the lead, it also meant they got the ball back and were able to run down more of the clock, without him in that side we win by plenty. AD is like a handbrake in attack and whilst he has done some great things to win us games I would argue that none of it is really related to playing as a 7. If Benji were to make a change I would say that the fact we don't have a fit quality right center could be the opportunity he needs to get Madden in at 7 and move AD to right center and perhaps his hooking of Herbert is paving the way for that as Toa has not been setting the world on fire in KOE and looks to be playing with some niggles.
BirchgroveTiger
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I’d replace Doueihi with Luai ( both playing 6), keeping Madden at 7. The team will bounce back into the winner’s circle this Thursday!!!
