Round 8 Game Thread *Spoilers*

[jirskyr]

“Getting to one’s feet” must surely at least mean both feet are on the ground. Not one foot and the other leg kneeling.
There was a call of incorrect PTB near the end of the Manly game yesterday.

Arguably yes, but the rule does not say you can only place the ball once both your feet flat are on the ground. It says you must regain your feet AND lift/place the ball AND be facing the opposition's try line AND make an attempt to roll it back.

So to my point about the Finucane one, he is robbed of the ability to regain his feet after being pushed. It's not really relevant whether or not he's got the ball on the deck already, you can't have markers pushing at the PTB.

Specific to the incorrect PTB from the Manly game, I was actually thinking about that one. DCE got called for an incorrect PTB, challenged it and it was overturned in Manly's favour. DCE played the ball EXACTLY the same way as Finucane did.

Here is the screen shot.


DCE challenged a knock on as opposed to an incorrect PTB.

Yes I misspoke, I obviously went back and watched the tape. The point was he wasn't called for the PTB, and his PTB was exactly the same as Finucane's the other night. The refs were instead focused on the fumble (or not) with no comment at all about the player being on their feet.

 

[innsaneink]

Ew, that was nasty. Looks to be a dislocation or ACL.

Who got injured?

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Ew, that was nasty. Looks to be a dislocation or ACL.

Who got injured?

Braiden Burns

 

[innsaneink]

Ew, that was nasty. Looks to be a dislocation or ACL.

Who got injured?

Braiden Burns

Sounds bad one... May be out this week

 

[Russell]

“Getting to one’s feet” must surely at least mean both feet are on the ground. Not one foot and the other leg kneeling.
There was a call of incorrect PTB near the end of the Manly game yesterday.

Arguably yes, but the rule does not say you can only place the ball once both your feet flat are on the ground. It says you must regain your feet AND lift/place the ball AND be facing the opposition's try line AND make an attempt to roll it back.

So to my point about the Finucane one, he is robbed of the ability to regain his feet after being pushed. It's not really relevant whether or not he's got the ball on the deck already, you can't have markers pushing at the PTB.

Specific to the incorrect PTB from the Manly game, I was actually thinking about that one. DCE got called for an incorrect PTB, challenged it and it was overturned in Manly's favour. DCE played the ball EXACTLY the same way as Finucane did.

Here is the screen shot.

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.

Different ruling to Finucane.

 

[Russell]

What also needs to be stamped out is the marker being pushed after the PTB, sometimes actually pushed over, taking them out of the play.

Happens all the time, but looking at the other night Kikau and Mansour could have been penalised.

 

[voice_of_reason]

Sounds bad one... May be out this week

I think it was reported season ending

 

[Fade.To.Black]

I wouldn’t call that being on your feet. We’ll agree to disagree. I’ve seen plenty of those instances ruled as an incorrect PTB because a player “hasn’t risen to his feet before placing the ball down” as the ref would say.

If he drops the ball or places it on the opposition's foot or leg, I agree, it gets called a lot as a bad PTB. If it's a regular incident-free PTB, nothing happens 9999/10000 PTB. As I said, I don't believe it's technically illegal because the rule says you must "regain your feet". Exactly what does regaining one's feet look like?

If the marker pushes the guy trying to play it, they'll get called every time.

After this discussion I keenly watched the PTB styles of all matches during the weekend, players are doing this constantly, getting up on one leg before placing the ball.

It's not so much the 'is it/isn't it?' question surrounding PTB's that is so annoying, it's the fact that it is ruled on differently every time. Some teams get game-sealing penalty goals right in front of the posts, if Finucane was a WT player I've got a sneaking suspicion it would have been called an incorrect PTB. Different rules for different clubs in this league.....it's a massive lottery.

 

[jirskyr]

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.
Different ruling to Finucane.

I already clarified, it's not the call I was referencing, it's the fact that DCE was not deemed to have played the ball incorrectly. It got sent upstairs and the only thing they judged was he did not actually drop the football, but nobody cared or commented that he wasn't standing on both his feet.

There was an argument being made that a player has to be on both his feet, flat on the ground, to be properly playing the ball, wrt the Finucane incident. I maintain that players never get pinged for PTB whilst on 1 knee unless they actually do drop it.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.
Different ruling to Finucane.

I already clarified, it's not the call I was referencing, it's the fact that DCE was not deemed to have played the ball incorrectly. It got sent upstairs and the only thing they judged was he did not actually drop the football, but nobody cared or commented that he wasn't standing on both his feet.

There was an argument being made that a player has to be on both his feet, flat on the ground, to be properly playing the ball, wrt the Finucane incident. I maintain that players never get pinged for PTB whilst on 1 knee unless they actually do drop it.

Would love to have footage of the Nofoaluma incorrect PTB from a few rounds ago. Didn't seem much different (if any) from these 1000's of ones that get let go. That's the irratating part.

 

[jirskyr]

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.
Different ruling to Finucane.

I already clarified, it's not the call I was referencing, it's the fact that DCE was not deemed to have played the ball incorrectly. It got sent upstairs and the only thing they judged was he did not actually drop the football, but nobody cared or commented that he wasn't standing on both his feet.

There was an argument being made that a player has to be on both his feet, flat on the ground, to be properly playing the ball, wrt the Finucane incident. I maintain that players never get pinged for PTB whilst on 1 knee unless they actually do drop it.

Would love to have footage of the Nofoaluma incorrect PTB from a few rounds ago. Didn't seem much different (if any) from these 1000's of ones that get let go. That's the irratating part.

I agree, like Bryce Gibbs getting 3 weeks for sliding into a try-scoring tackle with the knees, never seen a bloke get more than a slap on the wrist since for anything similar except striking with the feet.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.
Different ruling to Finucane.

I already clarified, it's not the call I was referencing, it's the fact that DCE was not deemed to have played the ball incorrectly. It got sent upstairs and the only thing they judged was he did not actually drop the football, but nobody cared or commented that he wasn't standing on both his feet.

There was an argument being made that a player has to be on both his feet, flat on the ground, to be properly playing the ball, wrt the Finucane incident. I maintain that players never get pinged for PTB whilst on 1 knee unless they actually do drop it.

Would love to have footage of the Nofoaluma incorrect PTB from a few rounds ago. Didn't seem much different (if any) from these 1000's of ones that get let go. That's the irratating part.

I agree, like Bryce Gibbs getting 3 weeks for sliding into a try-scoring tackle with the knees, never seen a bloke get more than a slap on the wrist since for anything similar except striking with the feet.

For the one on Luke Burt? That was a disgrace. Might've even been 4 weeks. Since our inception we haven't got even remotely close to getting the rub of the green from the officials IMO.

 

[jirskyr]

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.
Different ruling to Finucane.

I already clarified, it's not the call I was referencing, it's the fact that DCE was not deemed to have played the ball incorrectly. It got sent upstairs and the only thing they judged was he did not actually drop the football, but nobody cared or commented that he wasn't standing on both his feet.

There was an argument being made that a player has to be on both his feet, flat on the ground, to be properly playing the ball, wrt the Finucane incident. I maintain that players never get pinged for PTB whilst on 1 knee unless they actually do drop it.

Would love to have footage of the Nofoaluma incorrect PTB from a few rounds ago. Didn't seem much different (if any) from these 1000's of ones that get let go. That's the irratating part.

I agree, like Bryce Gibbs getting 3 weeks for sliding into a try-scoring tackle with the knees, never seen a bloke get more than a slap on the wrist since for anything similar except striking with the feet.

For the one on Luke Burt? That was a disgrace. Might've even been 4 weeks. Since our inception we haven't got even remotely close to getting the rub of the green from the officials IMO.

Yes the Luke Burt one.

 

[gallagher]

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.
Different ruling to Finucane.

I already clarified, it's not the call I was referencing, it's the fact that DCE was not deemed to have played the ball incorrectly. It got sent upstairs and the only thing they judged was he did not actually drop the football, but nobody cared or commented that he wasn't standing on both his feet.

There was an argument being made that a player has to be on both his feet, flat on the ground, to be properly playing the ball, wrt the Finucane incident. I maintain that players never get pinged for PTB whilst on 1 knee unless they actually do drop it.

Would love to have footage of the Nofoaluma incorrect PTB from a few rounds ago. Didn't seem much different (if any) from these 1000's of ones that get let go. That's the irratating part.

I agree, like Bryce Gibbs getting 3 weeks for sliding into a try-scoring tackle with the knees, never seen a bloke get more than a slap on the wrist since for anything similar except striking with the feet.

For the one on Luke Burt? That was a disgrace. Might've even been 4 weeks. Since our inception we haven't got even remotely close to getting the rub of the green from the officials IMO.

Yes the Luke Burt one.

While that saints grub knees Tuquiri in the ribs and we don't even get a penaltyy.

 

[Harvey]

Another blunder from the bunker

 

[hobbo1]

Another blunder from the bunker

Round 9 ...that way ➡️

 

[innsaneink]

Some dumbo tipped dogs and sharks

 

[jirskyr]

The infringement that Atkins called on the DCE play the ball (was that he knocked on), that was what was overturned, not whether he put the ball down before/after he regained his feet.
Different ruling to Finucane.

I already clarified, it's not the call I was referencing, it's the fact that DCE was not deemed to have played the ball incorrectly. It got sent upstairs and the only thing they judged was he did not actually drop the football, but nobody cared or commented that he wasn't standing on both his feet.

There was an argument being made that a player has to be on both his feet, flat on the ground, to be properly playing the ball, wrt the Finucane incident. I maintain that players never get pinged for PTB whilst on 1 knee unless they actually do drop it.

Would love to have footage of the Nofoaluma incorrect PTB from a few rounds ago. Didn't seem much different (if any) from these 1000's of ones that get let go. That's the irratating part.

I agree, like Bryce Gibbs getting 3 weeks for sliding into a try-scoring tackle with the knees, never seen a bloke get more than a slap on the wrist since for anything similar except striking with the feet.

For the one on Luke Burt? That was a disgrace. Might've even been 4 weeks. Since our inception we haven't got even remotely close to getting the rub of the green from the officials IMO.

Yes the Luke Burt one.

While that saints grub knees Tuquiri in the ribs and we don't even get a penaltyy.

If only Tuqiri was in the act of scoring a try, it might have been different.

 

[PabloX]

Did our reserve grade players have a hit out against the Panthers?

I just came across this

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCNhzPspVO3/?igshid=7nw4qhmzjb7h

 

[innsaneink]

Yes they did