Russell Packer - What Now

[hsvjones]

For me I think all of our forwards need a kick up the A#@ .... You only have to watch Knights, Panthers yesterday to see what happens when they play with aggression and put pressure on the other team... They make mistakes and opens up the game for the backs but who am I to say this.... Surely as a forward in the team you would be embarrassed by what you are doing and letting the other team walk all over you... A good example is Jason T of the cows - He is signed up for alot of money for a lot of years but do you see him just pudding along and collecting the money ? NO he cares about his own performance and the team.. Its time for our team to wake up

 

[cochise]

(I only mentioned it 10 times a week every week)

Maybe that was the problem!

 

[jirskyr]

I honestly think some of you have it totally wrong. Packer and Mats were bought for a specific reason by the old coach.

Madge on the other hand has his own specific style and it's not surprising that the forwards are bearing the brunt of the changes - because Madge is known for his forwards style. He plays big bodies, maximum fitness (almost at risk of burnout) and opts for power where possible.

Now at Tigers Madge doesn't have a lot of power at his disposal, because we didnt recruit that way. We recruited toilers, some would say plodders, but guys who absolutely lack explosive power.

Who has benefitted from that 2019? The big bodies long minutes guys or power blokes (nobody is both) - Twal, Eiso, Mikaele, Aloiai. Who misses out? ET, Packer, Mats semi-demoted .

Of course Packer can still play to first grade level, but the coach wants a different type of player. So Packer is demoted - and it ends up no different to the Farah scenario where you don't want a fellow so you resign him to reggies. Yes I am totally aware Farah is a club legend etc but on the basic level - thr coach doesn't want him so he wallows in reggies.

Specific to Packer, lots of uninformed comments about what kind of guy he is, that he doesnt care etc. If may simply be he cant play the way Madge wants, which may be no reflection on the player - he didnt sign on to play under Madge. We don't know why he's not turning out in reserves - that might be a club decision. Farah didnt turn out for Magpies either - its not so straight forward to just play reserves until your form warrants a call-up.

The coach may have in fact said he will not call him back to firsts.

 

[TYGA]

We call for a coach to make players accountable for performance and we got what we asked for.
If they don’t respond you move on issue is recruitment and retention has been for a decade.

 

[WT2K]

He's definitely got it good at the moment. Not needing to get bashed every week and picking up his pay at the same time

 

[Bula]

Paid for Green Bay. Got Gretel.

 

[rex2ce]

He should be training with the first grade squad and playing whatever grade the coach wants him to,if he has a chronic injury, medical retirement, surely the club has some rights when they are paying full pay to this bludger

 

[Regan]

@tony-soprano

I have been told he has done his hip can not train or run properly

 

[bythebeardofzeus]

We want accountability at this club sometimes a strong stance sets a tone. I think we have to get big minutes out of Aloai and Mikalele in the middle so the others can play a smaller role.

I agree, this is the only solution if Packer is to see first grade again, pending injuries. But I’d have him as the 3rd prop on the bench, the remaining spot taken by a backrower, which means no more carrying a 2nd hooker in the team. Something like:

14. Lawrence
15. Aloiai
16. Mikaele
17. Packer

This would work if Packer focuses on shorter stints with more impact. A big “if” though. Also means he takes Clark’s spot & stunts his development in firsts. And I’d be going with Liddle as our hooker - which has his own question-marks. But what do we have to lose?!

 

[hsvjones]

@Regan If that's the case we have NO hope of moving him on... Dead money at it's greatest...

 

[Regan]

@hsvjones

I will find out more next week the guy i know works with the Dragons coach

 

[Snake]

Maybe the supporter base should call him out for what he actually is a weak individual taking money under false pretence.. what a pee heart !

 

[tigerap]

The ball is squarely in Packers court....he simply has to make 100M a game; good post contact meters and 20-30 REAL tackles a game....how hard is it Rusty!

 

[851]

The ball is squarely in Packers court....he simply has to make 100M a game; good post contact meters and 20-30 REAL tackles a game....how hard is it Rusty!

JT made over 100 post contact meters for the cows on the weekend, our blokes can’t even make 100m total

 

[jirskyr]

The ball is squarely in Packers court....he simply has to make 100M a game; good post contact meters and 20-30 REAL tackles a game....how hard is it Rusty!


JT made over 100 post contact meters for the cows on the weekend, our blokes can’t even make 100m total

Hardly a fair comparison. Gee whiz guys how hard is it to just play like Taumololo? Be more like Jason, cmon bludgers, more like an absolute genrtic freak specimen of a human.

 

[weststigers]

The ball is squarely in Packers court....he simply has to make 100M a game; good post contact meters and 20-30 REAL tackles a game....how hard is it Rusty!


JT made over 100 post contact meters for the cows on the weekend, our blokes can’t even make 100m total

Hardly a fair comparison. Gee whiz guys how hard is it to just play like Taumololo? Be more like Jason, cmon bludgers, more like an absolute genrtic freak specimen of a human.

Let's look closer to home...Twal does it regularly

 

[hsvjones]

@851 Unfortunately he is going to destroy us this week and make like 300m in a game... He is be my Captain of my super coach tam this week for certain.. Maybe our players like to have holidays in September as it might be cheaper...

 

[jirskyr]

The ball is squarely in Packers court....he simply has to make 100M a game; good post contact meters and 20-30 REAL tackles a game....how hard is it Rusty!


JT made over 100 post contact meters for the cows on the weekend, our blokes can’t even make 100m total

Hardly a fair comparison. Gee whiz guys how hard is it to just play like Taumololo? Be more like Jason, cmon bludgers, more like an absolute genrtic freak specimen of a human.

Let's look closer to home...Twal does it regularly

Maybe Twal is the new Taumololo?

Legitimately show me the side where all the starting forwards make 100m per week every week.

 

[WT2K]

@851 Unfortunately he is going to destroy us this week and make like 300m in a game... He is be my Captain of my super coach tam this week for certain.. Maybe our players like to have holidays in September as it might be cheaper...

So I should make him captain again in NRL Fantasy 🤔

 

[weststigers]

The ball is squarely in Packers court....he simply has to make 100M a game; good post contact meters and 20-30 REAL tackles a game....how hard is it Rusty!


JT made over 100 post contact meters for the cows on the weekend, our blokes can’t even make 100m total

Hardly a fair comparison. Gee whiz guys how hard is it to just play like Taumololo? Be more like Jason, cmon bludgers, more like an absolute genrtic freak specimen of a human.

Let's look closer to home...Twal does it regularly

Maybe Twal is the new Taumololo?

Legitimately show me the side where all the starting forwards make 100m per week every week.

C'mon mate relax...I wasn't having a go at you. The guy was making the point about your key forwards making 100m a game. Not all forwards...that's unrealistic.

So snappy this forum :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: