Russian invasion of Ukraine

TrueTiger said:
I can...The ruble is about to be gold backed...the old swift system is going to be defunct in the next week or so...the swift system was connected to the fiat system which the big banking families such as the Rockerfellers,Rothchilds,Vatican and Royals dominated for decades and decades....changes are coming globally ....and for the BETTER....
The Canadians were pulling their money out as were a lot of the USA people,what does that tell you..?
the USA will be on a new currency called the rainbow currency,the USTN...
United States Treasury Note...all gold,silver and precious metal backed...
All is not as it seems...you and others call me a conspiracy theorist and lunatic...
funny how Covid is on the back burner,Canada was in the limelight and now have dropped all mandates,now its all about Ukraine,where everybody is crying for the people of a country they know little about only what MSM tell them,dont worry about coersion of getting the jab or crimes against humanity in other places such as the borders in USA where child trafficking is rife as well as drug cartels running rampant...and yet all those so called immigrants can get into USA with no jabs,visas or passports...
I said before ..lets see what the TRUTH is when it is finally revealed....
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Wasnt all of this happening over a month ago?

The SWIFT system is NOT connected to the fiat system for currency. SWIFT is simply software that ensures transfers.

You have no idea what you are talking about. No one "dominates" fiat currency, thats the whole point. It is based on an open market, exactly what is happening now in Russia. The system that you are spouting is central control (gold backed) and would be controlled by either big banks or governments. Australia had that system until 1983.
 
Tiger5150 said:
Putin apologists tend to try to have it both ways on Ukraine. One day it was always part of Russia, the next they were fighting each other in WW2?
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Tiger 5150 can you not see that the main theme in Ukraine atm isnt all that the MSM is telling you...NATO is the main concern...Putin was assured that Ukraine would not be a member of NATO...he didnt want nuclear missiles that close to his country and the only ones that keep pushing that narrative is the USA..I wonder why...have a look at the corrupt business people who are in there,Biden,Pelosi.Kerry, Clintons and Obama...
AS I SAID there is more to this than we know...Im not anywhere near Ukraine so I wouldnt know what the people want or dont want....I do know that the Neo nazis have a lot to do with it as well...
 
Tiger5150 said:
Wasnt all of this happening over a month ago?

The SWIFT system is NOT connected to the fiat system for currency. SWIFT is simply software that ensures transfers.

You have no idea what you are talking about. No one "dominates" fiat currency, thats the whole point. It is based on an open market, exactly what is happening now in Russia. The system that you are spouting is central control (gold backed) and would be controlled by either big banks or governments. Australia had that system until 1983.
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Did you know that the American dollar was gold backed until 1971 and Nixon took it off gold standard and introduced the fiat currency that has been exploited by the people I have mentioned earlier...Did you also know that those big banking cartel printed money out of thin air and introduced the harshest taxing of the people as well as inflation that the people lose but the banks make huge money off...
I know enough....do your homework...
 
TrueTiger said:
I can...The ruble is about to be gold backed...the old swift system is going to be defunct in the next week or so...the swift system was connected to the fiat system which the big banking families such as the Rockerfellers,Rothchilds,Vatican and Royals dominated for decades and decades....changes are coming globally ....and for the BETTER....
The Canadians were pulling their money out as were a lot of the USA people,what does that tell you..?
the USA will be on a new currency called the rainbow currency,the USTN...
United States Treasury Note...all gold,silver and precious metal backed...
All is not as it seems...you and others call me a conspiracy theorist and lunatic...
funny how Covid is on the back burner,Canada was in the limelight and now have dropped all mandates,now its all about Ukraine,where everybody is crying for the people of a country they know little about only what MSM tell them,dont worry about coersion of getting the jab or crimes against humanity in other places such as the borders in USA where child trafficking is rife as well as drug cartels running rampant...and yet all those so called immigrants can get into USA with no jabs,visas or passports...
I said before ..lets see what the TRUTH is when it is finally revealed....
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what if that truth isn’t the truth you believe it is?
 
TrueTiger said:
Did you know that the American dollar was gold backed until 1971 and Nixon took it off gold standard and introduced the fiat currency that has been exploited by the people I have mentioned earlier...Did you also know that those big banking cartel printed money out of thin air and introduced the harshest taxing of the people as well as inflation that the people lose but the banks make huge money off...
I know enough....do your homework...
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check out the Austrian school: Menger, Wieser, Mises, Borm-Bawrek, Hayek, They are strongly for free market, against Keynes, abolishing of the gold standard, they are against federal banks that play 'free market' when winning and socialism when they lose etc.
 
InBenjiWeTrust said:
the truth is not black and white, but has a lot of shades of grey🙂 Saying that "Chechens love Russia" has to be interpreted as "some Chechens like Russia" - or the faction that "invited" Russia to occupy Chechnya "loves" Russia.
This is similar to say Afghans love Russia😏
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The guy reckons Assad is democratically elected. Not worth engaging with Putin apologists with such a poor grip on reality.
 
TrueTiger said:
Tiger 5150 can you not see that the main theme in Ukraine atm isnt all that the MSM is telling you...NATO is the main concern...Putin was assured that Ukraine would not be a member of NATO...he didnt want nuclear missiles that close to his country and the only ones that keep pushing that narrative is the USA..I wonder why...have a look at the corrupt business people who are in there,Biden,Pelosi.Kerry, Clintons and Obama...
AS I SAID there is more to this than we know...Im not anywhere near Ukraine so I wouldnt know what the people want or dont want....I do know that the Neo nazis have a lot to do with it as well...
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Of course NATO is part of it and that is something to be negotiated. NOT an excuse to invade and bomb the crap out of innocent civilians. Massively corrupt (like Russia)...NOT an excuse to invade and bomb the crap out of innocent civilians. Ukraine treats minorities very poorly (I know this via family)....NOT an excuse to invade and bomb the crap out of innocent civilians.

Mate 4 days ago you literally said Ukraine was still a part of Russia and doubled down with some rubbish about UN not "registering" Ukraines borders. Complete made up rubbish. Prior to 1991, Ukraine had a seat at the UN, representing their current borders as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. In 1991 Ukraine announced they were taking over the seat as independent Ukraine and the UN accepted it, in 2014 the UN doubled down with resolution 68/262 further reinforcing their endorsement of Ukraine as a seperate sovereign state. Even more critically, on 5 December 1994, RUSSIA signed the Budapest Memorandum endorsing that Russia "respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders".

But you argue that Ukraine is still part of Russia. Mate you end each of your rants you say "who knows, lets just respect each other and see what the truth brings". If you continue to post things that are complete rubbish, lies, you give up all objectivity and nothing you say can been considered rationally.
 
TrueTiger said:
Did you know that the American dollar was gold backed until 1971 and Nixon took it off gold standard and introduced the fiat currency that has been exploited by the people I have mentioned earlier...Did you also know that those big banking cartel printed money out of thin air and introduced the harshest taxing of the people as well as inflation that the people lose but the banks make huge money off...
I know enough....do your homework...
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Mate you are in over your neck and you are drowning. You have no idea what you are talking about.

The US started getting out of the gold standard in 1931, same time the UK did. Nixon took the last amount out in 71. Australia did in 1983. The reason they all did is for the EXACT reason you claim the current fiat system is flawed. Under the gold standard, the value of your currency is a factor of the value of gold and therefore your currency and therefore the whole economy and inflation fluctuates on the value of gold which is completely suply and demand. Super wealthy Rothchilds etc could impact the value of the currency by buying massive amounts of gold or conversely dumping gold on the market.

The fiat system minimises the capacity for outside interference with the value of the currency, it is an open market and therefore directly related to the strength of the nations economy. It is a resource and therefore relates to supply and demand and if a nation prints massive amounts of money (Google US Quantative Easing) it reduces the value of the currency.

"Big Banking Cartels" dont print money out of thin air.......central banks do. The US Treasury Department in the US and The Reserve Bank in Australia. Printing more money reduces the value of the currency.

Mate you are way over your skis.
 
Tiger5150 said:
Of course NATO is part of it and that is something to be negotiated. NOT an excuse to invade and bomb the crap out of innocent civilians. Massively corrupt (like Russia)...NOT an excuse to invade and bomb the crap out of innocent civilians. Ukraine treats minorities very poorly (I know this via family)....NOT an excuse to invade and bomb the crap out of innocent civilians.

Mate 4 days ago you literally said Ukraine was still a part of Russia and doubled down with some rubbish about UN not "registering" Ukraines borders. Complete made up rubbish. Prior to 1991, Ukraine had a seat at the UN, representing their current borders as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. In 1991 Ukraine announced they were taking over the seat as independent Ukraine and the UN accepted it, in 2014 the UN doubled down with resolution 68/262 further reinforcing their endorsement of Ukraine as a seperate sovereign state. Even more critically, on 5 December 1994, RUSSIA signed the Budapest Memorandum endorsing that Russia "respect Belarusian, Kazakh and Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders".

But you argue that Ukraine is still part of Russia. Mate you end each of your rants you say "who knows, lets just respect each other and see what the truth brings". If you continue to post things that are complete rubbish, lies, you give up all objectivity and nothing you say can been considered rationally.
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But its only your opinion that its rubbish....you have done what you think is your research and I have done mine...lets see what transpires...

I will say it again,none of us are in the Ukraine and I dont care what the MSM tell us or people who know someone in Ukraine that posted whatever...sometimes the wrong people get the blame for things that they dont do....
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Certainly the financial ramifications of this are huge. This is a net positive for the U.S. as they can call back their dollars worldwide boosting their dollar and the dollar has pegging to the oil price which allows them to raise interest rates in a much more orderly fashion despite rampant inflation.
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Please explain to me how the US dollar is "pegged to the oil price"?

Then explain to me how the US Govt raises interest rates?
Magpie_Magic said:
Certainly, the U.S. dollar is stretched relative to it's physical backing so economic blocks may suit them allowing for dollar concentration and the breaking down of upstart Cryptocurrencies.
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Please then explain to me what the "physical backing" is of the US dollar?

Magpie_Magic said:
One thing for sure the way the stock market is behaving in a very rational way tends to reflect this was factored in as adjustment if Russia couldn't be broken down allowing for relative U.S. hegemony.
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Explain to me how the Russian share exchange totally collapsing and then not even opening today is "rational behaviour"?
 
Tiger5150 said:
Mate you are in over your neck and you are drowning. You have no idea what you are talking about.

The US started getting out of the gold standard in 1931, same time the UK did. Nixon took the last amount out in 71. Australia did in 1983. The reason they all did is for the EXACT reason you claim the current fiat system is flawed. Under the gold standard, the value of your currency is a factor of the value of gold and therefore your currency and therefore the whole economy and inflation fluctuates on the value of gold which is completely suply and demand. Super wealthy Rothchilds etc could impact the value of the currency by buying massive amounts of gold or conversely dumping gold on the market.

The fiat system minimises the capacity for outside interference with the value of the currency, it is an open market and therefore directly related to the strength of the nations economy. It is a resource and therefore relates to supply and demand and if a nation prints massive amounts of money (Google US Quantative Easing) it reduces the value of the currency.

"Big Banking Cartels" dont print money out of thin air.......central banks do. The US Treasury Department in the US and The Reserve Bank in Australia. Printing more money reduces the value of the currency.

Mate you are way over your skis.
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You stick to your falacies and I will stick by my thoughts and info...wait and see...
 
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TrueTiger said:
But its only your opinion that its rubbish....you have done what you think is your research and I have done mine...lets see what transpires...
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No we dont need to "see what transpires". Your research came up with "Ukraine is still part of Russia". UN have said Ukraine is a sovereign nation in its existing borders since 1991. RUSSIA signed a memorandum in 1994 stating it was a sovereign nation in its existing borders (including Crimea).

When you double down and cling to patently incorrect assertions, nothing you say can be taken objectively and we dont need to wait to see.

Its not "my opinion" that its rubbish. Its patently objectively proven. Was Ukraine acknowledged in 1991 by UN, 1994 for Russia and the subject of resolution 68/262?
 
Tiger5150 said:
Please explain to me how the US dollar is "pegged to the oil price"?

Then explain to me how the US Govt raises interest rates?


Please then explain to me what the "physical backing" is of the US dollar?



Explain to me how the Russian share exchange totally collapsing and then not even opening today is "rational behaviour"?
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Can I just ask you 5150, why is the Iraqui dinar so important to globally financial security atm...they need to seat the govt before the next 5/7 days in order to be revalued on the international stock exchange...they have been released from the IMFs chapter 7 ...which for people that dont know,it was set so Iraque had to pay back Kuwait for compensation in regards to war reparation...watch what happens when it releases the exchange rate value....
Iraque has now paid all debts and when the price of oil hits $120 a barrel their economy will thrive after years of suffering...they also have oil that hasnt been drilled as well as gold silver and other precious metals...no wonder everybody wanted to invade them...watch and see...
 
Tiger5150 said:
No we dont need to "see what transpires". Your research came up with "Ukraine is still part of Russia". UN have said Ukraine is a sovereign nation in its existing borders since 1991. RUSSIA signed a memorandum in 1994 stating it was a sovereign nation in its existing borders (including Crimea).

When you double down and cling to patently incorrect assertions, nothing you say can be taken objectively and we dont need to wait to see.

Its not "my opinion" that its rubbish. Its patently objectively proven. Was Ukraine acknowledged in 1991 by UN, 1994 for Russia and the subject of resolution 68/26
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I will leave it at that....hope to see you for a beer when all this crap is over and we can talk about the way the world is transpiring....
 
TrueTiger said:
Can I just ask you 5150, why is the Iraqui dinar so important to globally financial security atm...they need to seat the govt before the next 5/7 days in order to be revalued on the international stock exchange..
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The International Stock Exchange is an exchange for trading shares in companies, not countries or currency. Stop making stuff up.

TrueTiger said:
.they have been released from the IMFs chapter 7 ...which for people that dont know,it was set so Iraque had to pay back Kuwait for compensation in regards to war reparation...
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Seems to me that people that dont know tend to make up fantasies. For those that would actually like to know, IMF Chapter 7 merely defines a countries International Investment Position and how it is calculated. It is a factor of the countries balance sheet. IMF Chapter 7 has nothing to do with Iraq.
www.elibrary.imf.org

chapter 7 International Investment Position

Abstract 7.1 The international investment position (IIP) is a statistical statement that shows at a point in time the value and composition of
www.elibrary.imf.org www.elibrary.imf.org

Also the IMF is not a financial police force and doesnt impose penalties or sanctions. They cant "release" anyone from anything.


TrueTiger said:
Iraque has now paid all debts and when the price of oil hits $120 a barrel their economy will thrive after years of suffering...they also have oil that hasnt been drilled as well as gold silver and other precious metals...no wonder everybody wanted to invade them...watch and see...
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Mate.....everything you post is objectively false. Why should we what and see about anything you make up.

Is Ukraine STILL part of Russia?
 
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