Russian invasion of Ukraine

[the_third]

It is usually the "conspiracy theory" people who get these threads shut down covid/anti-vax for example.I have little problem with people who have different opinions to me it is just that when those opinions are so blatently false it upsets most people.

Spot on.

 

[Demps]

At least you ain’t living in millk town mate! Lmfao 😂 kinda hoping to WFH in sydney

Cessnock, 1 hour drive from me.
Town is clearly riddled with drugs at the moment too.

Sad state.
Not a fan.

 

[Nelson]

and

look where the thread went. Im all for healthy discussion, but asking people for proof on an invasion is not really a debate. It's pathetic. Some of the people here cant handle this type of conversation

I know but if they don't do it in here then they'll just do it somewhere else.

 

[the_third]

fine

I know but if they don't do it in here then they'll just do it somewhere else.

fine by me.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I know but if they don't do it in here then they'll just do it somewhere else.

A lot better to have one's beliefs heard where they will be discussed and/or questioned, rather than simply confirmed and echoed.

 

[Nelson]

fine


fine by me.

I mean they will just talk about it in other threads on here...I would be quite happy to see them banned, which would seem a better solution that trying to sanitise people discussing important topics. The ban hammer seems to have disappeared though.

 

[gallagher]

Would be good to get the ignore thread function back but alas in the meantime perhaps not openeing it may help..

Great tip

 

[Cobarcats]

These days protection of ones borders is paramount, we do it with our coastal waters, but to cross the line and kill innocent civilians is an evasion which can lead to war crimes.
I've read all the comments so far and none of you can justify murder.
You say it's tit for tat, that's no excuse for war.
The senseless killings between the jew and the gentile, racial tensions, border wars, political agendas, cultural differences all of which do not justify taking someones life especially women and children.
Stop beating your chests and pray for the Meek and Downtrodden caught up in this mess driven by egotistical politicians.
😒

 

[BZN]

G'day @magpie1963,
A nuclear war is just unthinkable, if even it were a small nuclear war it would cause a nuclear winter that would destroy crops all over the planet and plunging billions into famine and death.
It is just unthinkable.

G'day @FinestTigers Totally agree with you.
So this means rasPutin can march into any non NATO country bordering Russia?

 

[BZN]

To answer your question about origins of the videos, they are both genuine promotional videos

Yeh...put together by someone that is wanting the Yanks to look like a bunch of unrealistic weak dreamers.

 

[BZN]

Trudeau has had a number of press conferences bragging about seizing the bank accounts of anyone who donated to the truckers gofundme

And did he actually seize any bank accounts?

 

[Odessa]

Итак. Информация следующая.

Ночью было совещание. Путин на Урале. Бизнесменов созывают специально на совещания, чтобы никто не улетел в панике.
Из аэропортов на частных бортах их не выпускают.

Заранее были найдены и пристреляны все укрепления со стороны Украины. Тактического плана не было. Цитирую: "у нас все было по ходу событий". Надеялись все взять за 1-4 дня.

Обсуждают финансовые потери.
Война обходится в день в 20 млрд $.
Путин лютует. Был уверен, что это будет лёгкая прогулка.
Ракет мало. Хватит дня на 3-4 потолок. Их берегут.
Оружия нет. Тульский завод и остальные 2 завода Ротенберга не могут выполнить заказы на оружие. Винтовки и пули. Физически. Оружия не хватает. Следующее оружие реально получить месяца через 3-4. И то!!!
Нет сырья. Итого возможно и дольше.

Раньше поставки были из Словении в основном, Финляндии и Германии. Их сейчас заблокировали.

Обсудили, что если Украина выстоит 10 дней, то придётся садиться на стол переговоров. Потому что не хватает ни денег, ни оружия, ни ресурсов. Санкций особо не боятся.

Альфа, силы спец операций ещё с 18-го где-то под Киевом.
Весь расчёт на то, что возьмут Киев и поставят своего ставленника. И типа не придётся тратить ни денег, ни военных, ни оружия.

Готовят провокацию по мирному населению. Атака детей, женщин. Чтобы посеять панику.
Это их козырь.

Весь план - надежда на панику.
И что сдадутся сами или Зеленский сбежит.
Рассчитывают, что сдастся первый Харьков. И остальные города последуют его примеру, чтобы избежать кровопролития.

Проблемы в России с аэропортами. Нет беспилотников. Очень огорчены потерей колонны под Харьковом и 200 человек погибло.
Потери с их стороны серьёзные.

Цитата: встретили ожесточённое сопротивление противника.
Они в шоке.

Задача: выстоять 9 дней ещё.
Убрать панику.
Объяснить про ракеты, что это все для запугивания. Намерено бьют как попало и куда попало и "случайно" цепляют жилые дома.
Чтобы создать эффект массовости






So. The information is as follows. There was a meeting at night. Putin is in the Urals. Businessmen are called specially to meetings so that no one leaves in a panic. They are not allowed to leave airports on private boards. All fortifications from Ukraine were found and shot in advance. There was no tactical plan. I quote: "we had everything in the course of events." We hoped to take everything in 1-4 days. They discuss financial losses. The war costs $20 billion a day. Putin is furious. I was sure it would be an easy walk. There are few rockets. Enough days for 3-4 ceiling. They are protected. There are no weapons. The Tula plant and the other 2 plants of Rotenberg cannot fulfill orders for weapons. Rifles and bullets. Physically. There are not enough weapons. The next weapon can really be obtained in 3-4 months. And then!!! There are no raw materials. In total, it is possible and longer. Previously, supplies were mainly from Slovenia, Finland and Germany. They are now blocked. We discussed that if Ukraine stands for 10 days, we will have to sit down at the negotiating table. Because there is not enough money, weapons, or resources. They are not particularly afraid of sanctions. Alpha, special operations forces since the 18th somewhere near Kiev. The whole calculation is that they will take Kiev and put their henchman. And like you don't have to spend any money, no military, no weapons. They are preparing a provocation against the civilian population. Attack of children, women. To sow panic. This is their Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon card. The whole plan is a hope for panic. And that they will surrender themselves or Zelensky will run away. They expect that the first Kharkiv will surrender. And the rest of the cities will follow his example to avoid bloodshed. Problems in Russia with airports. There are no drones. We are very saddened by the loss of the column near Kharkov and 200 people died. The losses on their part are serious. Quote: we met fierce enemy resistance. They're in shock. Task: to survive for 9 more days. Remove the panic. Explain about the missiles that this is all for intimidation. They intentionally hit randomly and randomly and "accidentally" cling to residential buildings. To create a mass effect



This is official

 

[Odessa]

Google translation not the best

But the plan was to take Kiev in 4 days then after that rape the woman shoot the kids

My friends are in line waiting for guns and other weapons the air sirens going off and no one ran away hundreds of men just waiting to get weapons as the planes came over

 

[BZN]

lol what?

if one side pushes their nuclear missles how on earth would the other push theirs? LMFAO

ok enough forum fun for today for me

I had to check Google to find out what LMFAO stood for.
What a nasty way to finish your post, then to say you've had forum fun while people are being killed/slaughtered on both sides.

 

[coivtny]

I had to check Google to find out what LMFAO stood for.
What a nasty way to finish your post, then to say you've had forum fun while people are being killed/slaughtered on both sides.

Spot on mate. You'd be better not wasting your time with this bloke. He lies in his posts to boost his arguments. He's part troll and part faux academic. Best ignored. Hope you're doing well.

 

[Odessa]

Stories coming now that the some towns and villages and beating to death stray Russian soldiers with sticks and rocks

Just horrible

 

[clokan]

DFAT cable. I didn’t read it though I’m in a different Department.

You are either not very bright, or lying. I imagine this information would be classified, yet you are comfortable to confirm it on an Internet forum.

 

[Odessa]

Also another Rally in the city tomorrow 3pm

 

[the_third]

pretty grim

 

[FinestTigers]

G'day @FinestTigers Totally agree with you.
So this means rasPutin can march into any non NATO country bordering Russia?

Just as the US has been doing it for countless years supposedly in the name of democracy (aka, Oil) and being solely responsible for millions of dead people, i assume Magpie tbat if the Russian military tacticians propose another invasion then i think Putin probably would.