Sack Sheens Thread

[slacko]

I got annoyed when I received a renewal email earlier in the week, the season still alive. I don't care that it's a business, I saw that when we shafted Gibbs.

That was the first thing that had me questioning my membership to the club, and if I'm honest took a lot of passion out of the club. For me Gibbs was a large part of the personality of the club, furthermore I came to realise he represented Campbelltown, when many Campbelltown fans feel they are not terribly well represented out here.

I've generally been a supporter of Sheens. The players being so poor defensively at times is not his fault, but perhaps it is time for a change, I can not remember a year I have been more embarrassed. I can not remember a year we have under achieved and been smacked as bad as this,

There are players that should be sacked with sheens, but none of this will happen. ( Utai is one of them, I'm surprised it had taken till this week for his defensive liabilities to be shown. He is bad under the high ball, he is slow turning for grubbers and at times his reading of the play is not of NRL standard. He does run well from dummy half, but I wouldn't put off finding a better winger just for that)

The problem with Wests Tigers is we don't vote in the board. This is not an ordinary club.

The only thing we can do is pullback our membership. Let's face it, the club doesn't seem to look after the members nearly as well as other clubs. We support the team no matter what, we don't need membership to the club to keep supporting the team.

A couple of months to settle down and gather our thoughts, but boy was I really upset yesterday.
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[angeman]

I would also encourage everyone to write to the club expressing their disappointment but also vote for change at the next wests or balmain agm. Our board of directors are too comfortable in their cushy jobs!!!
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[angeman]

Defence and kicking game amongst the worst in the league and sheens and his staff (minus folkes) have no idea. Time to go otherwise more of the same..,
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[SPD]

Simple facts are

10 seasons and three finals appearances - 33%. ( yes we won a comp in 2005)

If anyone can tell me that the squads post 2005 are not good enough to be in the top 8 teams I would be interested.

A good coach who has just been at a club too long.
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[Merlot_Tiger]

Who missed vital tackles, who kicked out on the full, who passed the ball over the line, who knocked on from the kick off, who gave away stupid penalties to piggy back the opposition down to within 20 meters of our try line, who ? Sheens ?

 

[jadtiger]

The thought of Sheens Georgie and Royce guiding our team next year makes me ill.I dont want any of these clowns anywhere near our club next year.I dont care what it costs to pay out Sheens but it will be money well spent.To be honest i am not overwhelmed by the coaches who are on the market but surely Anderson Brown or Folkes would bring in fresh ideas which is what we need badly.

It wont happen but i can dream

 

[Mighty_Tigers]

Who missed vital tackles, who kicked out on the full, who passed the ball over the line, who knocked on from the kick off, who gave away stupid penalties to piggy back the opposition down to within 20 meters of our try line, who ? Sheens ?

Who got them mentally prepared, there was no game plan no nothing. I used to like Sheens as well but to put it simple he has been there to long. The players have lost respect there is a poor attitude there and Sheens can't fix it. Not to mention his team selections for the year.Time to go Timmy :arrow_right:

 

[tigerbenji]

Its been a bad year year with injuries & whatever, but you cant just blame the coach. Sjeens didnt miss a tackle or drop the ball, so maybe the players shoiuld take some blame.

 

[madunit]

The fact this same shit has happened every year Sheens has been head coach and folkes was not at the club, tells me it is the coach.

Every year it is the same issues, the same problems.

They say insanity is making the same mistake over & over again.

Sheens needs a straightjacket.

You can never make a carefree attacking weapon a general to control gameplans etc.

 

[madunit]

When you have a team with this much international experience and calibre, you should be saying that anything outside the top 4 is a failure.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Its been a bad year year with injuries & whatever, but you cant just blame the coach. **Sjeens didnt miss a tackle or drop the ball, so maybe the players shoiuld take some blame**.

By this analogy no coach should ever get sacked. It may be harsh on the coach but thats just the way things are, when things aren't going well he's always the one whose job is on the line. I mean seriously if its not his job to rectify dropped balls and missed tackles what the hell is he doing there? is being a coach just a novelty then? 12 yr old mentality. And as far as injuries go, we couldn't have had a worse injury run then 2011 and yet we finished in the top 4 so thats a cop out as well

 

[Tiger_Watto]

lol, this about the 15th thread about sacking Sheens… It always gives me a good laugh reading through them all.

There is only 1 person who will have a say in deciding if its time for Sheens to go, and it isnt the CEO or anyone on the Board... While Harry is pulling the strings, the only way Sheens will not be at the Wests Tigers in 2013 is if 'he' decides to walk away!

 

[tiga4eva]

Who missed vital tackles, who kicked out on the full, who passed the ball over the line, who knocked on from the kick off, who gave away stupid penalties to piggy back the opposition down to within 20 meters of our try line, who ? Sheens ?

Who has a squad with a heap of talent and constantly underachieves?. The buck stops with the boss, if I lose my business it ain't my staffs fault.
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[happy_tiger]

When you have a team with this much international experience and calibre, you should be saying that anything outside the top 4 is a failure.

Barring a miracle we will underachieve on last season and that is a failure even in the real world

Sheens and the players need to have explained (or if the club has the guts , shown ) what accountability is all about

Maybe we need to really make the hard decisions Make Anasta captain possibly and see if this frees up Farah even more maybe

Make Jim Dymock or Brad Arthur our 2013 coach

Maybe this isn't the answer , but what we are currently doing sure as hell isn't working and at least it is something different

 

[tigerdre]

I think the NRL should make the ruleing that the Australian coach should have no affiliation with a club like NSW and QLD do it.
& I would give Rick Stone a crack I thought he done a great job with the knights last season & is well underrated

 

[milford_magic]

I know we can't probably afford too "pay out Sheens" , but what club can afford to pay out there coaches.

We have the same tactics as we did in 2005-2006, but we have a far inferior and slower squad. Teams read every play we do. Against the Bulldogs we had enough ball to win without the rough decisions, and yesterday we had enough ball early to put a point on. They get the ball for a minute and go through us (Same thing happened last week). Our attack is so predictable and our defence is just not up to it either. It was the same in the Warriors semi in 2011\. The moment they got the ball they scored. Its amateur.

 

[skywalka]

Never mind what has happened over the last few years. Sheens has to go because there is no hope for the next few years.

 

[cktiger]

Every player in our squad has talent and they have all showed it at different parts of the year.
Our problem , as always , is inconsistency.
In the end the man at the top is the one who should pay the price for this.
Stupid positional changes that sap the confidence of the players involved and have our attacking and defensive structures changing on a weekly basis are the coaches fault alone.
Every team has injury problems and just deal with them - we use ours as an excuse to lose rather than a opportunity to step up.
Time for fresh ideas and a someone not so close to the players at the helm.

 

[Cosimo_Zaretti]

I think everyone's forgotten what it's like to actually have a bad coach. As a kid I sat on the hill at every Leichardt game in 91 and 92 and watched Alan Jones systematically destroy one of the best sides in the comp.

 

[jjstokes]

Sheens' job in spotlight after capitulation
Phil Rothfield, Sports Editor-at-large
The Daily Telegraph
August 27, 2012 9:40AM

The top eight has almost been decided and the Tigers, pre-season favourites are on the verge of missing out.
BARRING a miracle, the race for the NRL top eight is over following the stunning capitulation of the Wests Tigers yesterday.

Celebrating Anthony Minichiello's 250th game at Allianz Stadium, the Roosters almost certainly ended the Tigers campaign with a 44-20 victory - just 24 hours after the Knights and the Titans bowed out of the race in Saturday night losses.

After a disgraceful Tigers performance even allowing for the absence of skipper Robbie Farah - questions were raised about the future of Test coach Tim Sheens, who has now made the finals only three times in the past 15 years.

The Tigers are still level in eighth position with the Brisbane Broncos but have a 52-point worse for-and-against as a result of yesterday's shellacking.

To make the semis, the Tigers would have to upset Melbourne on Saturday night at Leichhardt Oval and hope Penrith can knock over the Broncos at Suncorp on Friday. Or hope the Raiders lose by a big margin to the Warriors.

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Both Sheens and Benji Marshall admit it's going to be difficult for the club that started the season as title favourites.

"At the moment we are not looking past where everybody is at," Sheens said.

"Obviously there is still another game to play, but right at the moment we are no chance of beating Melbourne unless we are 300 per cent better."

While the eight looks all-but settled, next weekend the minor premiership could be up for grabs if Melbourne Storm beat the Sharks tonight at AAMI Park.

The Bulldogs would have to beat the Roosters on Saturday night to be assured of collecting the J.J Giltinan Shield.

The Cowboys are still an outside chance of sneaking into the top four if they can beat Cronulla next Sunday then hope either Souths lose to the Knights on Friday or Manly lose to the Titans.

Souths have a tough assignment against the Knights, who have never lost on "old boys" night when former players form a guard of honour as the team runs onto the field. But the Rabbitohs roared back into form yesterday, flogging Parramatta 38-6 at ANZ Stadium.
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