Sack Sheens Thread

I will sign.

Please also vote on this poll, it will be emailed to the club midweek.

http://www.weststigersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14839
 
All successful enterprises operate under a policy of continual improvement right through an organisation. It is the responsibility of management to ensure the running of club continually improves; it is the responsibility of the coaching staff to ensure the team's results improve and player's individual performances and attitude keep improving each year; it is the player's responsibility to personally improve and work on their skill sets and performance each week. In the entire organisation only a handful of players can put up their hand and honestly say they have improved in all areas this year … as far as coaching goes, defensive patterns have been abysmal, attitude poor and consistency non existent. Administration ... well player retention and recruitment has left a lot to be desired, a lot of the players released will be playing in the finals series this year while our lot comfort themselves in a bar somewhere, we lack size, authority and strength in the forwards and speed and height in the backs. I am afraid the tigers have become a 'taj mahal', big on looks and style and short on substance, with no one in fear of being dropped, mediocrity is rewarded each week. Just take a look at teams like manly, bulldogs, storm etc they have 'mongrel' in them, play it hard, don't take backwards steps and turn up with the same attitude each week - teams hate playing them, that's what we should be aspiring to. Attitude is a quality that filters through from the top ....... history will repeat itself unless the tigers have enough courage to make some changes, a lot of players should be released next year, not questioning their heart at all, it's their ability to compete at this level which is open to interpretation. To end the year on a bright note, great to see marika get a run albeit too late in the year, there is a lesson to be learned there, more minutes for the young brigade, they have no fear and a ton of ability.
 
bbob - are the Tigers injuries worse than many other clubs? Melbourne missed Slater for 5 weeks and Sharks missed Gallen similar period and these are two of the best in the game, but those clubs are riding high. Tigers lost too many games early season with a full roster. They've recuited too many players near the end of their careers. The failures of Ayshford, Blair and Moltzen is largely down to the coach. 2012 has been disappointing. But I agree that 2010/2011 were good years for him.
 
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_**he should be in the run on 17 for storm game and see from a players point of view, what the teams selections equate to on the field.**_
 
@lynchy said:
Only 1st grade coach who under achieves regularly and doesn't get mentioned in the media. Start of 2012 we were everyone tip to win GF we lost 7 games in a row and not even a mutter of pressure on him. We get labeled soft, we then play 2 backs on the bench against a giant forward pack vs raiders. We buy a back up for Robbie while on sso duties then we final get a good half 5/8 combination so what happens Robbie gets injured and we break that combination and resuffle the whole team. Do I think Sheens should go? SURE DO! Arrogant man.
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Totally agree,the guy gets a free pass on everything every year,sack the fool now,and we maybe have a good 2013.
 
I said at the start of the year that if we didn't make the 8, then he should go for the betterment of the Club and the Team…...after today's effort, pack your bags and give someone else a chance......
 
Everybody on the NRL coaching payroll this year needs to be punted, fitness team the lot

The boys club extends right through it.

Get Daniel Anderson or Price in as coach, Fletcher as his assistant. promote Leo to NYC and shift Payten to State Cup
 
Head Coach - Daniel Anderson
Assistant Coach - Nathan Brown

Great mix of youth and old. My dream coaching rotation, they can even be swapped and it will have the same effect.
 
Who is Price?

Daniel Anderson is a decent candidate. As is Folkes. We should make a play for Bellemy. Jim Dymock looks promising.

HOnestly there are an abundance of candidates. Geez I would almost take any other coach in the NRL just to see someone DIFFERENT in charge after a decade of mediocrity.
 
Time for a change, time for some fresh ideas and a new perspective, time to challenege a complacent playing squad.
I'd love to see someone come in and really push the players, get the hunger and the want back into the squad. I want to see a few players live up to their potential and a few others to get the accolades they deserve before it's too late under coach sheens.
 
I think he should step down as Head Coach. From the look of things, I think Sheens has taken this squad as far as he can. They need a new attitude, a new structure on and off the field, and new coaching and fitness staff brought in - People with fresh eyes and fresh ideas basically. And as far as accountability is concerned, this needs to be stepped up.

This team has underperformed as a unit this season. Some individuals have had very good seasons, but other have gone backwards and this needs to be rectified moving into 2013.
 
@angeman said:
Amazingly furner has been under pressure all year yet sheens gets nothing
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Same as every year,substitute Furner for Smith,kearney,McClennan or any coach,Sheens is an exception to the criticism,I am at the stage now i really hate the guy,and that is sad for a bloke who won a premiership for us.
But that was 7 years ago,and a lot of poor team selections have come and gone since then,he has forfeited his right to coach our team with his idiotic team selections and a continual lack of motivating our team,go and go now Tim,please for the beterment of our club. :imp:
 
Geeez guys. Over reaction much?

When was the last time a coach was surprisingly sacked? McKlennen, Kearney, Moore, Elliott, Henjack. These were not surprises to the RL community. As a Tigers fan, I was not surprised by any of those decisions (the timing of Henjack was weird but so be it).

I can tell you know, the RL community would be VERY confused as to why Sheens should be sacked. It makes little to no sense. We are angry because our team has under performed all season, but to SACK the coach? No, it wasn't that bad of a season, as much as I'm sure someone is about to try and convince me it was.

I think Sheens needs to go. We need fresh ideas. But that is his call. There is a massive difference between a coach knowing he needs to leave and the board sacking the coach. IMO, it was would really REALLY ballsy of the board to take such action, and completely unwarranted.

I'm sure emailing them the thread will aid them in their decision.
 

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