Same sex marriage debate...

[earl]

I never noticed a question about people who do not believe in this concept, can be penalised for not supplying goods or services against their beliefs.

It would be interesting if they had another vote on this question. (not by the dopes in Parliament).

There definitely shouldn't be a vote on this and people who don't supply goods or services for gay people should be punished. Discrimination is unacceptable in our society.

Those that can't accept that should go and live in Saudi Arabia or something like that because they aren't welcome here.

 

[Snake]

I never noticed a question about people who do not believe in this concept, can be penalised for not supplying goods or services against their beliefs.

It would be interesting if they had another vote on this question. (not by the dopes in Parliament).

There definitely shouldn't be a vote on this and people who don't supply goods or services for gay people should be punished. Discrimination is unacceptable in our society.

Those that can't accept that should go and live in Saudi Arabia or something like that because they aren't welcome here.

Yes free speech and freedom of expression seems to be alive and well in our country well that is if you do not have another opinion looks like Saudi Arabia it is !

 

[earl]

I never noticed a question about people who do not believe in this concept, can be penalised for not supplying goods or services against their beliefs.

It would be interesting if they had another vote on this question. (not by the dopes in Parliament).

There definitely shouldn't be a vote on this and people who don't supply goods or services for gay people should be punished. Discrimination is unacceptable in our society.

Those that can't accept that should go and live in Saudi Arabia or something like that because they aren't welcome here.

Yes free speech and freedom of expression seems to be alive and well in our country well that is if you do not have another opinion looks like Saudi Arabia it is !

You have free speech. You just can't discriminate against people because you are homophobic. Seems fair enough to me. It's just the same as discriminating against women or people who aren't white or who are tall or short or whatever. That crap shouldn't be allowed in a civilised society.

I wonder the type of people that try and control others. Imagine discriminating against someone because they are attracted to someone of the same sex. Crazy stuff !

If you went and lived in Saudi Arabia you might find out it's not as good as what you think it is but I'd love to see a bunch of racist morons move over there.

 

[magpiecol]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

 

[happy_tiger]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

Well Col , you have surprised me :smiley:

Never thought I'd be giving you a thumbs up

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

In small country towns there could be only one supplier and it is still rude to refuse. I hope there are boycotts of discriminating shops. When it was illegal for Aborigines to have grog they would still get served at the back door.

If a gay couple get a friend to purchase cakes on their behalf from a boycotting shop is this unfair to the shopkeepers?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Why can't service stations also refuse to serve SSM people - if that means that half way across the Nullabor gays die in the desert for lack of juice then bad luck. Stuff Presilla!

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I never noticed a question about people who do not believe in this concept, can be penalised for not supplying goods or services against their beliefs.

It would be interesting if they had another vote on this question. (not by the dopes in Parliament).

There definitely shouldn't be a vote on this and people who don't supply goods or services for gay people should be punished. Discrimination is unacceptable in our society.

Those that can't accept that should go and live in Saudi Arabia or something like that because they aren't welcome here.

Yes free speech and freedom of expression seems to be alive and well in our country well that is if you do not have another opinion looks like Saudi Arabia it is !

I wouldn’t go that far,
But it was a very clear result , and they lost ,
So accept that ,as there is anti discrimination laws in the country that affect us all, so don’t discriminate.
Are these shopkeepers princesses going to knock back the money that Gays spend in their shops. Not bloody likely!!
So treat them as you would anyone else, and stop all the childish whining
Even though there should never have been a survey/ plebiscite whatever( as we already knew what the result would be), it’s over, the vast majority said yes.
Suck it up and get on with your lives,

 

[hammertime]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

Well said mate. I only know two no voters. My grandparents. Who have been through a depression, fought for this country in a war and are the nicest souls you would
meet. Being in their 90s, they obviously don't like change.

People spewing hate towards people like my grandparents are the sick ones and really need to start shutting the hell up.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

It's not a leftie thing, If you note there were significant votes of no ranging from sixty to eighty percent in many Labor electorates. Bowen, Burke and co should all be voting no in accordance with the wishes of the electorate in which they represent. My electorate almost had a split vote and Morrison will of course be voting no. I voted no as a long standing labor voter as did most of my "leftie" friends.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

It’s not the number of electorates that matter it’s not a parliamentary seat we are talking about . It’ was a vote about a specific thing.
And every voter had the chance to vote andmost did
It’s the total number of votes that matter that matter, so Parliament need to just pass the Bill and get on to something that matters.
It doesn’t make a difference whether 100% of people voted no in one electorate.
The bill will pass despite a couple of gutless parliamentarians who care more about their pay cheque than doing what’s already been voted on

 

[GNR4LIFE]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

Well said mate. I only know two no voters. My grandparents. Who have been through a depression, fought for this country in a war and are the nicest souls you would
meet. Being in their 90s, they obviously don't like change.

People spewing hate towards people like my grandparents are the sick ones and really need to start shutting the hell up.

So discrimination is ok?

 

[Pawsandclaws]

It’s not the number of electorates that matter it’s not a parliamentary seat we are talking about . It’ was a vote about a specific thing.
And every voter had the chance to vote andmost did
It’s the total number of votes that matter that matter, so Parliament need to just pass the Bill and get on to something that matters.
It doesn’t make a difference whether 100% of people voted no in one electorate.
The bill will pass despite a couple of gutless parliamentarians who care more about their pay cheque than doing what’s already been voted on

Disagree, in a parliamentary vote MPs should be voting in accordance with wishes of their respective electorates.

 

[earl]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

In small country towns there could be only one supplier and it is still rude to refuse. I hope there are boycotts of discriminating shops. When it was illegal for Aborigines to have grog they would still get served at the back door.

If a gay couple get a friend to purchase cakes on their behalf from a boycotting shop is this unfair to the shopkeepers?

Exactly. We need to fight racist morons and outright discrimination.

You don't have the right to discriminate against someone because they are gay.

 

[earl]

If someone does not want to supply services to some people then there are plenty of others that will. Why does the left insist on name calling of people who do not agree with their point of view. Crazy. Live and let live I say.

Well said mate. I only know two no voters. My grandparents. Who have been through a depression, fought for this country in a war and are the nicest souls you would
meet. Being in their 90s, they obviously don't like change.

People spewing hate towards people like my grandparents are the sick ones and really need to start shutting the hell up.

So discrimination is ok?

No it's not. It's that simple.

 

[Munk]

People will always discriminate. It doesnt matter how many laws are introduced to combat it.

 

[Harvey]

I never noticed a question about people who do not believe in this concept, can be penalised for not supplying goods or services against their beliefs.

It would be interesting if they had another vote on this question. (not by the dopes in Parliament).

There definitely shouldn't be a vote on this and people who don't supply goods or services for gay people should be punished. Discrimination is unacceptable in our society.

Those that can't accept that should go and live in Saudi Arabia or something like that because they aren't welcome here.

We have already institutionalised discrimination. There are public pools which are closed at particular times so that muslim women can swim without males being present. There are health, legal and educational services that are only available to certain sections of the population. This is somehow acceptable, but refusing to supply services because of individual beliefs is homophobia and discrimination.

At the end of the day the service provider would simply be costing themselves money, but there needs to be consistency.

If a service provider offered a 15% discount for gay couples marrying, is that also discrimination?

 

[Snake]

Hopefully it will not be to long before Adam and Steve get married as it probable will be televised then we all can move on but then again we will have to wait for Maria and Julia to get hitch but unfortunately Glenda the trans gender who is actually Glenn gets hitched to Ron who used to be Ronda ….maybe one day we will actually start to be concerned about the REAL. Issues that are besetting our community and country but then again maybe not.

 

[earl]

I never noticed a question about people who do not believe in this concept, can be penalised for not supplying goods or services against their beliefs.

It would be interesting if they had another vote on this question. (not by the dopes in Parliament).

There definitely shouldn't be a vote on this and people who don't supply goods or services for gay people should be punished. Discrimination is unacceptable in our society.

Those that can't accept that should go and live in Saudi Arabia or something like that because they aren't welcome here.

We have already institutionalised discrimination. There are public pools which are closed at particular times so that muslim women can swim without males being present. There are health, legal and educational services that are only available to certain sections of the population. This is somehow acceptable, but refusing to supply services because of individual beliefs is homophobia and discrimination.

At the end of the day the service provider would simply be costing themselves money, but there needs to be consistency.

If a service provider offered a 15% discount for gay couples marrying, is that also discrimination?

I don't know what health, legal and educational services are only available to certain sections of society. I think you should provide factual details of this. It'd also be good to show the public pools which do as you state. Facts do actually matter.

The simple fact of the matter is that discrimination shouldn't be allowed within society. Was apartheid appropriate ?

Real men stand against this BS.

If you can actually provide facts in relation to your little diatribe then we can discuss those issues. There are female gyms for instance. Other gyms are available for men. That is different to discrimination and sane people should be able to see that.

 

[magpiecol]

I never noticed a question about people who do not believe in this concept, can be penalised for not supplying goods or services against their beliefs.

It would be interesting if they had another vote on this question. (not by the dopes in Parliament).

There definitely shouldn't be a vote on this and people who don't supply goods or services for gay people should be punished. Discrimination is unacceptable in our society.

Those that can't accept that should go and live in Saudi Arabia or something like that because they aren't welcome here.

We have already institutionalised discrimination. There are public pools which are closed at particular times so that muslim women can swim without males being present. There are health, legal and educational services that are only available to certain sections of the population. This is somehow acceptable, but refusing to supply services because of individual beliefs is homophobia and discrimination.

At the end of the day the service provider would simply be costing themselves money, but there needs to be consistency.

If a service provider offered a 15% discount for gay couples marrying, is that also discrimination?

I don't know what health, legal and educational services are only available to certain sections of society. I think you should provide factual details of this. It'd also be good to show the public pools which do as you state. Facts do actually matter.

The simple fact of the matter is that discrimination shouldn't be allowed within society. Was apartheid appropriate ?

Real men stand against this BS.

If you can actually provide facts in relation to your little diatribe then we can discuss those issues. There are female gyms for instance. Other gyms are available for men. That is different to discrimination and sane people should be able to see that.

Birrong pool. Check it out.

Your last paragraph is interesting. You state that there are female gyms only but there are other gyms available for men.

There are other suppliers available to same sex people if some feel they are unable to supply said couple because of their beliefs.

Easy is'nt it.