Jerry_Seinfeld
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@Geo. said:
Touche Touche
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@Jerry Seinfeld said:
Tell me how bad the Irish Americans have it now mate? How many of them were incarcerated in Reagan's war on drugs as opposed to the blacks, despite Caucasians having higher rates of use? How Irish Americans get shot dead week on week by US cops?
Better yet Jerry, how about we go one further and have a vigil for the systematic destruction of the Irish language and culture at the hands of the English? No more damage has been perpetrated against the Irish people than that of the English.
Your argument that the Irish are the "black people" of Europe still doesn't make slavery of Africans any more right. Turn off Dumb Fux News.
Jerry_Seinfeld
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@formerguest said:
well remember Formerguest when you say that US government you despise give the native Americans a few specks of sand in the desert translates in real life figures to an absolute freaking goldmine that would make bill gates blush.maths doesnt lie.You just cant seem to get away from blaming the white man or Empirical European nations for the worlds problems can you.You dont want to talk about Muslim/IS cause you know it is an unwinnable argument so you choose to "disagree"with me on it.You like I ARE entitled to their opinions but You quite clearly have failed to realise how much angst this is causing for the average white man around the world as he is blamed for everything but responsible for nothing as scum like ISIS dig their heels in and you choose to go all silent on them but very vocal when it comes to baggin US and Israel Governments.I Realise Governments are dirty but people only hate the US and Israel cause they are jealous of their own dysfunctional governments form their homeland.You know all Al Capone wannabe wanker/dictator types.Until the 3rd world starts to have a voice and call out their own instead of the white man will things get better for all the poor souls of the world in the 3rd world.
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@underdog said:
The soldiers DIDNT win(DEATHS,AMPUTATIONS,PTSD ETC) but for the next 100 years you,Me and everyone else on this forum tapping away at our commando keyboards did for their sacrifices.UD Believe me take these words in and you will be a much more content person.
Jerry, you do realise that the USA gave rise to ISIS by arming them and the Syrian rebels against the Syrian government and standing shoulder to shoulder with the Wahhabist Saudis who are also a financial backer of ISIS, to eradicate the Shi'ite Muslims?
happy_tiger
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@Cultured Bogan said:
The Muslims go OK CB , bit tough calling them Shi'ite
@Lakra said:
Sorry I mistakenly assumed you were a man, Lakra.
Apart from that nothing else changes.
Blaming an entire generation on your own father's shortcomings seems a little immature and unfounded.
I also suppose the information you can glean so immediately off the internet is always correct and never slanted in any way, unlike the propaganda the 'bogan generation' was fed.
As for the respect aspect of your comment, I think my generation leaves yours for dead.
If loving your country, being honest, respectful, working hard and caring are the views, beliefs, values and principles you believe are outdated then I feel sorry for where our country is headed.
Jerry_Seinfeld
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@Cultured Bogan said:
Absolutely I do.And all the factions they have armed prior to that.Every one coming to the yanks with a tale of we are persecuted give us arms and we will join you and free our nation from slavery,genocides etc etc.Only when enjoying extra power/privileges to turn on the US in futile attempts of world domination.
So if the US didn't give em stuff..what then ?
Jerry_Seinfeld
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@Geo. said:
The whole of Asia/South Pacific would be called Japan the whole of Europe/Africa,South America,North America would be called Germany.Thats what.
So if the US didn't give ISIS stuff all that would have happened ….OK
Jerry_Seinfeld
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@Geo. said:
Learn to quote me when you post(unless you imaginarily think you are above it)and you will get more intelligent replies.
Where is this evidence that the U.S. has ever funded or supplied ISIL in a meaningful way? The Americans supported the FSA. Given that the current group is largely a transformed AQI that would be counterproductive. It's pretty well established that the Saudis have provided financial support in the past but that's dried up. Of course it is their broad interest to support Sunni governments - that's why they're intervening in Yemen but I really doubt it is their intent to wipe out Shia. All of this is also tied into their longstanding rivalry with Iran for leadership of the Middle East.
@Jerry Seinfeld said:
Why do I need to quote when the post is directly under yours to which you replied with you now admit was unintelligent?
Is that a rule?
Jerry_Seinfeld
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@Geo. said:
The only unintelligent thing was that it might have been merging two conversations into one therefore making it sound unintelligent.There is a reason people quote when they are talking to each other its called a bit of mutual respect and politeness so they dont have to scroll up or back 3 pages to see what it was referring to.
Jerry_Seinfeld
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Tell me how bad the Irish Americans have it now mate? How many of them were incarcerated in Reagan's war on drugs as opposed to the blacks, despite Caucasians having higher rates of use? How Irish Americans get shot dead week on week by US cops?
The facts are this.
Because White america made up 85% of the population figures in the early 1980's and rec use was rampant but it was the blacks and their aggressive street wise ways who grew up in ghettos and all wanted to be a playyyyyaaaaaaa and the black mans dream job in life was to be the local drug dealer cause it was cool and got the chicks.Remember the bloods and the crips homey.Whilst Irish people didnt want to live with a gang mentality for the next 200 years they moved on with their lives and became better citizens.Personal drug use is one thing but drug dealing with mean assed gangs terrorizing local communities cause they cant handle a bit of power is something completely different.
Read below.
African American Gang History:
African American gangs began forming in California during the 1920s. They were not territorial; rather, they were loose associations, unorganized, and rarely violent. They did not identify with graffiti, monikers, or other gang characteristics.
These early gangs consisted generally of family members and neighborhood friends who involved themselves in limited criminal activities designed to perpetrate a "tough guy" image and to provide an easy means of obtaining money.
From 1955 to 1965, the African American gangs increased with larger memberships and operated primarily in south central Los Angeles and Compton. This was partly due to more African American youths bonding together for protection from rival gangs.
It was not until the late 1960s when the Crips and Bloods-the two most violent and criminally active African American gangs-originated. The Crips began forming in southeast Los Angeles by terrorizing local neighborhoods and schools with assaults and strong-arm robberies. They developed a reputation for being the most fierce and feared gang in the Los Angeles area.
Other African American gangs formed at about the same time to protect themselves from the Crips. One such gang was the Bloods, which originated in and around the Piru Street area in Compton, California; thus, some Bloods gangs are referred to as Piru gangs. The Bloods, which were outnumbered at the time by the Crips three to one, became the second, most vicious African American gang in the Los Angeles area.
Both the Crips and Bloods eventually divided into numerous, smaller gangs (or "sets") during the 1970s. They kept the Crips' and Bloods' (Piru) name, spread throughout Los Angeles County, and began to claim certain neighborhoods as their territory. Their gang rivalry became vicious and bloody.
By 1980, there were approximately 15,000 Crips and Bloods gang members in and around the Los Angeles area. The gangs-or sets-ranged in size from a few gang members to several hundred and had little, if any, organized leadership. The typical age of a gang member varied from 14- to 24-years-old.
Initiation into a gang required the prospective member to 'lump in" and fight some of the members already in the gang. Another initiation rite required them to commit a crime within the neighborhood or an assault against rival gang members.
They remained territorial and motivated to protect their neighborhoods from rival gang members. They established unique and basic trademarks such as colors, monikers, graffiti, and hand signs. The color blue was adopted by the Crips as a symbol of gang recognition; red became the color of the Bloods. Monikers-such as "Killer Dog," "12-Gauge," and "Cop Killer' '-often reflected their criminal abilities or their ferociousness as gang members. Graffiti identified the gang and hand signs displayed symbols-usually letters-unique to the name of their gang. It was not unusual for members to "flash" hand signs at rival gang members as a challenge to fight. They took great pride in displaying their colors and defending them against rival gangs. They were willing to die for the gang, especially in defense of their colors and neighborhood. It was not until the early 1980s that the era of drive-by shootings began.
They became involved in a variety of neighborhood crimes such as burglary; robbery; assault; and the selling of marijuana, LSD, and PCP. The issue of gang involvement in narcotics trafficking was generally considered to be of a minor nature prior to the I 980s. However, by 1983, African American Los Angeles gangs seized upon the availability of narcotics, particularly crack, as a means of income. Crack had supplemented cocaine as the most popular illicit drug of choice. Prime reasons for the widespread use of crack were its ease of conversion for smoking, the rapid onset of its effect on the user, and its comparatively inexpensive price.
The migration of African American Los Angeles gang members during the 1980s to other United States cities, often for reasons other than some vast gang-inspired conspiracy, resulted in the spread of crack sales and an attendant wave of violence. This spread of crack sales can be traced back to the gang members' family ties in these cities and to the lure of quick profits. These two reasons provided most of the inspiration and motivation for the transplanted gang members.
Considerable diversity is displayed by Crips and Bloods gangs and their members in narcotics trafficking, which allows for different levels of involvement from narcotic selling by adolescents to the more important roles of directing narcotics trafficking activities. In the past, an individual's age, physical structure, and arrest record were often principal factors in determining gang hierarchy; money derived from narcotic sales soon became the symbol which signified power and status.
Crips and Bloods have established criminal networks throughout the country and capitalized on the enormous profits earned from the trafficking and selling of crack cocaine. In 1987, nine members of the Nine-Deuce Hoovers-a Crips gang-migrated from Los Angeles to Seattle, Washington, where they ran three crack houses, with crack .transported from California each week. One gang member was subsequently arrested and pleaded guilty in 1988 to selling crack near a school and using a gun to further his narcotic enterprise. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison and is currently incarcerated in Leavenworth Federal Prison, Kansas.
The facts are this.
Because White america made up 85% of the population figures in the early 1980's and rec use was rampant but it was the blacks and their aggressive street wise ways who grew up in ghettos and all wanted to be a playyyyyaaaaaaa and the black mans dream job in life was to be the local drug dealer cause it was cool and got the chicks.Remember the bloods and the crips homey.Whilst Irish people didnt want to live with a gang mentality for the next 200 years they moved on with their lives and became better citizens.Personal drug use is one thing but drug dealing with mean assed gangs terrorizing local communities cause they cant handle a bit of power is something completely different.
Read below.
African American Gang History:
African American gangs began forming in California during the 1920s. They were not territorial; rather, they were loose associations, unorganized, and rarely violent. They did not identify with graffiti, monikers, or other gang characteristics.
These early gangs consisted generally of family members and neighborhood friends who involved themselves in limited criminal activities designed to perpetrate a "tough guy" image and to provide an easy means of obtaining money.
From 1955 to 1965, the African American gangs increased with larger memberships and operated primarily in south central Los Angeles and Compton. This was partly due to more African American youths bonding together for protection from rival gangs.
It was not until the late 1960s when the Crips and Bloods-the two most violent and criminally active African American gangs-originated. The Crips began forming in southeast Los Angeles by terrorizing local neighborhoods and schools with assaults and strong-arm robberies. They developed a reputation for being the most fierce and feared gang in the Los Angeles area.
Other African American gangs formed at about the same time to protect themselves from the Crips. One such gang was the Bloods, which originated in and around the Piru Street area in Compton, California; thus, some Bloods gangs are referred to as Piru gangs. The Bloods, which were outnumbered at the time by the Crips three to one, became the second, most vicious African American gang in the Los Angeles area.
Both the Crips and Bloods eventually divided into numerous, smaller gangs (or "sets") during the 1970s. They kept the Crips' and Bloods' (Piru) name, spread throughout Los Angeles County, and began to claim certain neighborhoods as their territory. Their gang rivalry became vicious and bloody.
By 1980, there were approximately 15,000 Crips and Bloods gang members in and around the Los Angeles area. The gangs-or sets-ranged in size from a few gang members to several hundred and had little, if any, organized leadership. The typical age of a gang member varied from 14- to 24-years-old.
Initiation into a gang required the prospective member to 'lump in" and fight some of the members already in the gang. Another initiation rite required them to commit a crime within the neighborhood or an assault against rival gang members.
They remained territorial and motivated to protect their neighborhoods from rival gang members. They established unique and basic trademarks such as colors, monikers, graffiti, and hand signs. The color blue was adopted by the Crips as a symbol of gang recognition; red became the color of the Bloods. Monikers-such as "Killer Dog," "12-Gauge," and "Cop Killer' '-often reflected their criminal abilities or their ferociousness as gang members. Graffiti identified the gang and hand signs displayed symbols-usually letters-unique to the name of their gang. It was not unusual for members to "flash" hand signs at rival gang members as a challenge to fight. They took great pride in displaying their colors and defending them against rival gangs. They were willing to die for the gang, especially in defense of their colors and neighborhood. It was not until the early 1980s that the era of drive-by shootings began.
They became involved in a variety of neighborhood crimes such as burglary; robbery; assault; and the selling of marijuana, LSD, and PCP. The issue of gang involvement in narcotics trafficking was generally considered to be of a minor nature prior to the I 980s. However, by 1983, African American Los Angeles gangs seized upon the availability of narcotics, particularly crack, as a means of income. Crack had supplemented cocaine as the most popular illicit drug of choice. Prime reasons for the widespread use of crack were its ease of conversion for smoking, the rapid onset of its effect on the user, and its comparatively inexpensive price.
The migration of African American Los Angeles gang members during the 1980s to other United States cities, often for reasons other than some vast gang-inspired conspiracy, resulted in the spread of crack sales and an attendant wave of violence. This spread of crack sales can be traced back to the gang members' family ties in these cities and to the lure of quick profits. These two reasons provided most of the inspiration and motivation for the transplanted gang members.
Considerable diversity is displayed by Crips and Bloods gangs and their members in narcotics trafficking, which allows for different levels of involvement from narcotic selling by adolescents to the more important roles of directing narcotics trafficking activities. In the past, an individual's age, physical structure, and arrest record were often principal factors in determining gang hierarchy; money derived from narcotic sales soon became the symbol which signified power and status.
Crips and Bloods have established criminal networks throughout the country and capitalized on the enormous profits earned from the trafficking and selling of crack cocaine. In 1987, nine members of the Nine-Deuce Hoovers-a Crips gang-migrated from Los Angeles to Seattle, Washington, where they ran three crack houses, with crack .transported from California each week. One gang member was subsequently arrested and pleaded guilty in 1988 to selling crack near a school and using a gun to further his narcotic enterprise. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison and is currently incarcerated in Leavenworth Federal Prison, Kansas.
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@Yossarian said:
Funding one is essentially funding the other. They are offshoots of one another.
Taliban –> Al-Qaeda --> Al Nusra --> ISIL.. The US has helped fund & radicalize these groups.
Most of the funding is from the US & wealthy individuals from Saudi, Oman & Kuwait.
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@CocaCola said:
Funding one is funding the other???huh?
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