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newtiger
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I think that you need to call Lifeline 131114.
Tigers4ever
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Ivan will get them back on the bus, just wait and see.
Harvey
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Are you kidding?
McQueen hid from contact and obviously needs time to build confidence on returning from injury.
Fonua is not fit and should be nowhere near first grade early in the year.
Nofa struggles in defence. I had blamed inside defenders in the past, but tonight it was him. He needs to improve or play lower grades.
Aloiai should be the first picked. Lawrence was good. Grant has been the best front rower for the last 2 weeks.
Our halves were poor. Thompson was solid, but nothing more. If that is the first choice fullback, then it could ve long year.
jrtiger
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I honestly think it wasn't too bad of a trial. Sharks were at full strength for much of that first half and had a little luck. Tonight showed that our edge defence is still not up to standard, and is hopefully fixed before R1.
My biggest criticism of the Reynolds & Brooks is that they were turning it back inside far too often and wasting tackles in key positions on the field when they needed to be trying to put the defence on the back foot. Both looked dangerous when playing ad-lib and attacking the line with determination.
Chee-Kam and Aloiai both really impressed me, both should be in the 17 somewhere. Packer & Matulino honestly looked like they were cruising, they'll step it up come R1\. Grant better not be anywhere near that side, honestly. Thompson will have the #1 in his locker in 2 weeks time.
Couple weeks to go and I still believe we can beat the Roosters in Round 1\. Just gotta go back and work on a couple things and we'll come good, don't evacuate the bus just yet eh
My biggest criticism of the Reynolds & Brooks is that they were turning it back inside far too often and wasting tackles in key positions on the field when they needed to be trying to put the defence on the back foot. Both looked dangerous when playing ad-lib and attacking the line with determination.
Chee-Kam and Aloiai both really impressed me, both should be in the 17 somewhere. Packer & Matulino honestly looked like they were cruising, they'll step it up come R1\. Grant better not be anywhere near that side, honestly. Thompson will have the #1 in his locker in 2 weeks time.
Couple weeks to go and I still believe we can beat the Roosters in Round 1\. Just gotta go back and work on a couple things and we'll come good, don't evacuate the bus just yet eh
After 2 trials and blending in many new faces i wasnt expecting to be slashing my wrists or jumping for joy and i am doing neither.
The trials showed us exactly what we should have predicted that there is more work to be done to be consistently good.Some of our new buys have been better than expected ( e.g thompson) some worse(e.g Fonua) but the season is 24 games long and i have no doubt that the performances will improve as the year goes by.
My main concern atm would be hooker/halves and lack of pace in the backline.The lack of pace in the backline is the one area where i believe that we dont have the personnel currently to fix the problem.
We were never going to have immediate dividends this year but i am confident of a decent finish 7th - 10th is quite achievable if we play to our strengths and work on our defensive pattern
The trials showed us exactly what we should have predicted that there is more work to be done to be consistently good.Some of our new buys have been better than expected ( e.g thompson) some worse(e.g Fonua) but the season is 24 games long and i have no doubt that the performances will improve as the year goes by.
My main concern atm would be hooker/halves and lack of pace in the backline.The lack of pace in the backline is the one area where i believe that we dont have the personnel currently to fix the problem.
We were never going to have immediate dividends this year but i am confident of a decent finish 7th - 10th is quite achievable if we play to our strengths and work on our defensive pattern
Red88_Tiger
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Never been able to really put in trials find it mentally hard with nothing to play for. I've always done enough but don't push hard especially off the ball. Bush footy.
Round 3 before you can start tapping the knife handle
Round 3 before you can start tapping the knife handle
Sounds like last night was a reality check - no speed and arguably the worst spine in the comp. Not even the great Ivan can fix that.
The problem with recruiting alot of players at once is if they dont work out you are stuck with them or you pay to have them play somewhere else.
Only a trial but even the positive critics sound nervous.
The problem with recruiting alot of players at once is if they dont work out you are stuck with them or you pay to have them play somewhere else.
Only a trial but even the positive critics sound nervous.
The_Old_Fox
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The Sharks fielded a strong team that came to break heads unlike the Tigers who are still sorting out positions that type of result would be expected ..only a fool would be upset with the loss last night..No Twai, E.T or Mc queen or Marshall ..perhaps 2 or 3 ISP players to step up..centres,fullback wingers combination unsorted I don't understand why people are living and dying on 1 result.
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Agree with what you are saying - the season hasn't started, and people are slashing their wrists over a trial.
I am sure Ivan has a much clearer picture after the two trials and will have a better picture again after the first couple of rounds. It takes time to build confidence, combinations, trust etc. I am sure we will get there but it will not be in Round 1.
The_Old_Fox
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That's right,not to mention the Sharks will probably be a top 4 team half of their backline have played state of origin the only one missing was Gallen….we weren't going to steamroll them like the Cowboys under strength figuring out key positions and combinations ..forget to mention Liddle, who will probably be the resident hooker when back on deck and fit.
Disappointing performance, looked quite disjointed and unpolished, but you’d expect that with so many new signings. And it is only a trial, hopefully not a true reflection of what we’re capable of. There has been years where our trials looked promising, but then we totally bombed the season proper.. So not sure how much you can really take from them in terms of that.
It didn’t look like the Sharks won in a canter though, fielded close to their best side and played like it was a finals series!
It didn’t look like the Sharks won in a canter though, fielded close to their best side and played like it was a finals series!
GNR4LIFE
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Sharks will miss the 8.
beachtiger
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We are obviously lacking combinations with an overhauled team, no real service or spark out or dummy half and a halfback that needs to learn how to play both sides of the field again instead of just camping on one side. Added to our halfback playing both sides we have our 5/8 then trying to learn how to work in with the halfback in attack as well.
None of these are reasons for us to get worked up and think our season is over and personally I don’t think we should be surprised at all with what we saw.
The only part I’m really concerned with is our dummy half service but hopefully Liddle can get that back on track. I’m like everyone and was hoping (maybe dreaming) that our team would start the season firing but I think taking a deep breath and trusting the natural development is important and as they start to gel we will start to see things fall into place.
None of these are reasons for us to get worked up and think our season is over and personally I don’t think we should be surprised at all with what we saw.
The only part I’m really concerned with is our dummy half service but hopefully Liddle can get that back on track. I’m like everyone and was hoping (maybe dreaming) that our team would start the season firing but I think taking a deep breath and trusting the natural development is important and as they start to gel we will start to see things fall into place.
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Sharks were terrific last night, we matched them in the forwards but their backline made the difference - slick, fast and powerful. It wasn't a bad result for us IMO - most of Sharks tries were off our mistakes, one lucky ricochet and we had one disallowed. The main thing the Sharks did was give away a lot of penalties whenever we had a roll on or we were in their 20\. They backed there defence and waited for us to make a mistake. It was bad for the game and didn't allow us to build much of a rhythm.
innsaneink
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I think a lot of teams will back their D against us…spoiling our attack with constant indescretions....this is why Brooks and co need to get it right first time.
"Disappointing"
"Living and dying"
"Slashing wrists"
Anyone concerned by what they saw last night is apparently over reacting...."its only a trial"
Excuses coming from some quick = personally i like to see us compete no matter what it is......i heard the same things last year after the 9s....we werent in the contest last night....hope things change soon but im feeling the same as I have the last 5 or 6 years
"Disappointing"
"Living and dying"
"Slashing wrists"
Anyone concerned by what they saw last night is apparently over reacting...."its only a trial"
Excuses coming from some quick = personally i like to see us compete no matter what it is......i heard the same things last year after the 9s....we werent in the contest last night....hope things change soon but im feeling the same as I have the last 5 or 6 years
Spud_Murphy
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😛ray: you are right, that would make my year! Can't see it happening though, but we can dream.
Cleary has a lot of work to do before round 1…anyone that was there last night and seen both ISP and 1st grade come away thinking Ok that was not what I was expecting .
There are a LOT of players that are a long way away from there best it was all to see last night .The one point that I was disappointed about was absolutely no shape or continuity in any attacking considering Cleary has had six months to work on this !
I came away not confident of much success in the short term maybe as the season moves along but the first 5 rounds could be very ugly but this will be another rebuilding season.
There are a LOT of players that are a long way away from there best it was all to see last night .The one point that I was disappointed about was absolutely no shape or continuity in any attacking considering Cleary has had six months to work on this !
I came away not confident of much success in the short term maybe as the season moves along but the first 5 rounds could be very ugly but this will be another rebuilding season.
Magpie_Magic
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Cronulla played tough like premiership proper and we didn't and they won 24 to 12.
Listening to Cleary at other times it seems 100% commitment and toughness will be our main game plan. Obviously they didn't want to put their bodies on the line last night fair enough. They will against rosters and roosters seem a bit under done atm.
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