Sharks fined $1 mil, Flanno gone for 12 months
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happy_tiger
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@innsaneink said:
The thing I find strange in all this is the AFL situation
They did to Essendon what Smith did to the Sharks months ago yet not a single player has been charged yet
How long will we wait until players get 2 year bans ??
Unless they are treating both cases at the same time because of Dank's involvement , I don't know
Could the pending legal cases of the 3 ex Sharks players be causing issues ??
If your right Ink , interesting weeks ahead that's for sure
Pity the most important thing will be off the front page , the game themselves
cqtiger
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@pHyR3 said:
What? Asking all around a pub in Sydney? Lol
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happy_tiger
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@pHyR3 said:
Ipswich is exploding population wise and is football mad
Might mean we lose Marion Seve though
Fraze23
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@happy tiger said:
If the 3 Sharks players are taking legal action, would that not mean that they're admitting to taking illegal/banned substances? (Assumedly without knowingly doing so). Should they not be receiving bans similar to Sandor Earl?
happy_tiger
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Can anyone believe they haven't interviewed Dank
The "darkest day in Australian sport" looks like it might be a peppermint flavoured lollipop if this investigation hasn't bothered to interview the one person that links everything
April is the timeframe linked for the Judge's decision on the consequences for all involved
The "darkest day in Australian sport" looks like it might be a peppermint flavoured lollipop if this investigation hasn't bothered to interview the one person that links everything
April is the timeframe linked for the Judge's decision on the consequences for all involved
supercoach
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@happy tiger said:
Hey Happy, you said April, did the indicate what year!!!!!!!!
I think you'll find that April is based on nothing more than wild speculation.
It is, however, ridiculous that danks hasn;t been questioned. Hopefully it means they have enough to create a brief which will lead directly to charges. But I doubt it.
This article appears to have a reasonable summary of where the process is up to. Part 1 is apparently done. Part 2, which doesn;t have a set time frame, is just starting:
**ASADA probe ends without Stephen Dank's input**
The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority has completed its investigation of the AFL and NRL without speaking to Stephen Dank, the central figure in the drama at Essendon and Cronulla.
Dank, the controversial figure who oversaw the supplements programs at the Bombers in 2012 and Cronulla the previous year, told Fairfax Media on Wednesday he had not been contacted by ASADA officials.
Dank, who also previously worked with the Manly Sea Eagles, has maintained his innocence throughout the saga.
ASADA chief executive Aurora Andruska told a Senate estimates hearing on Wednesday: "We have completed the investigation phase. The next step for us is now the review of the evidence and formation of briefs."
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Andruska said former Federal Court judge Garry Downes would assist the authority in this process. "His role largely is to look at the evidence we have and to determine from his position whether or not the evidence is sufficient to take cases forward."
But she stressed Downes' work would not hold up the authority's work. "We have briefs that we are preparing right now and we will continue to work through that, and issue show cause letters and take matters through the Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel and other tribunals as the process proceeds," she said. ASADA says an Australian Federal Police and Deloitte investigation has found no one within its organisation was responsible for leaking sensitive information to the media.
During the peak of ASADA's investigation into players in the NRL and AFL, several sensitive documents were published in the media last year that related to Cronulla and Essendon.
It was enough to force Andruska to call in the AFP and Deloitte to go over the organisation with a fine-tooth comb. "There were media suggestions, and from other quarters, that the organisation was leaking," she said. "I brought in Deloitte and the AFP to make examination of any leaks occurring, and there were none. ASADA was not leaking."
Andruska said the investigation examined all communication that had been made and received by the organisation over the past several years.
She said she could only speculate where the leaks came from, and when invited by the senators to do so, replied: "I don't think that's an answer I'd give."
The investigation into both Cronulla and Essendon’s supplements programs has been completed, but ASADA is reviewing its evidence, meaning players could still be issued with infraction notices.
Richard Ings, CEO of ASADA before Andruska took over, said on Wednesday night that while the announcement about the investigation being complete was significant, there could yet be many months of work required on the cases.
**"This means that ASADA has spoken to all the people it needs to speak to, it has collected all the documents it needs to collect, it has all the testimony from witnesses it needs. So basically it's got the universe of evidence it believes is applicable to each person of interest in an investigation," Ings said.\
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"The process next for ASADA is to write up an evidentiary brief. That's ASADA lawyers, and maybe outside counsel, assessing all this evidence to make a recommendation about whether any person has a case to answer; or equally whether the evidence suggests that no person has a case to answer.\
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"ASADA lawyers will prepare an evidentiary brief for each person of interest. Based on what has been said publicly by ASADA, as many as 30 persons of interest across both codes have been the focus of this investigation"\
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Ings said it could take many months simply to complete a very complicated brief. A more straightforward case would be prepared significantly more quickly.\
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Once the briefs are completed with recommendations, they are passed to ASADA's Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel, which then reviews each evidentiary brief and decides whether or not it agrees with each recommendation.\
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Only once the ADRVP determines there is a case for an athlete to answer, does the relevant sport have to establish a panel to consider the case. The World Anti-Doping Agency can only appeal a finding once it is considered by such a tribunal.\
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"You just can't predict a timeline with this," Ings said.**
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/asada-probe-ends-without-stephen-danks-input-20140226-33is0.html#ixzz2uVYDMNR0
It is, however, ridiculous that danks hasn;t been questioned. Hopefully it means they have enough to create a brief which will lead directly to charges. But I doubt it.
This article appears to have a reasonable summary of where the process is up to. Part 1 is apparently done. Part 2, which doesn;t have a set time frame, is just starting:
**ASADA probe ends without Stephen Dank's input**
The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority has completed its investigation of the AFL and NRL without speaking to Stephen Dank, the central figure in the drama at Essendon and Cronulla.
Dank, the controversial figure who oversaw the supplements programs at the Bombers in 2012 and Cronulla the previous year, told Fairfax Media on Wednesday he had not been contacted by ASADA officials.
Dank, who also previously worked with the Manly Sea Eagles, has maintained his innocence throughout the saga.
ASADA chief executive Aurora Andruska told a Senate estimates hearing on Wednesday: "We have completed the investigation phase. The next step for us is now the review of the evidence and formation of briefs."
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Andruska said former Federal Court judge Garry Downes would assist the authority in this process. "His role largely is to look at the evidence we have and to determine from his position whether or not the evidence is sufficient to take cases forward."
But she stressed Downes' work would not hold up the authority's work. "We have briefs that we are preparing right now and we will continue to work through that, and issue show cause letters and take matters through the Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel and other tribunals as the process proceeds," she said. ASADA says an Australian Federal Police and Deloitte investigation has found no one within its organisation was responsible for leaking sensitive information to the media.
During the peak of ASADA's investigation into players in the NRL and AFL, several sensitive documents were published in the media last year that related to Cronulla and Essendon.
It was enough to force Andruska to call in the AFP and Deloitte to go over the organisation with a fine-tooth comb. "There were media suggestions, and from other quarters, that the organisation was leaking," she said. "I brought in Deloitte and the AFP to make examination of any leaks occurring, and there were none. ASADA was not leaking."
Andruska said the investigation examined all communication that had been made and received by the organisation over the past several years.
She said she could only speculate where the leaks came from, and when invited by the senators to do so, replied: "I don't think that's an answer I'd give."
The investigation into both Cronulla and Essendon’s supplements programs has been completed, but ASADA is reviewing its evidence, meaning players could still be issued with infraction notices.
Richard Ings, CEO of ASADA before Andruska took over, said on Wednesday night that while the announcement about the investigation being complete was significant, there could yet be many months of work required on the cases.
**"This means that ASADA has spoken to all the people it needs to speak to, it has collected all the documents it needs to collect, it has all the testimony from witnesses it needs. So basically it's got the universe of evidence it believes is applicable to each person of interest in an investigation," Ings said.\
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"The process next for ASADA is to write up an evidentiary brief. That's ASADA lawyers, and maybe outside counsel, assessing all this evidence to make a recommendation about whether any person has a case to answer; or equally whether the evidence suggests that no person has a case to answer.\
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"ASADA lawyers will prepare an evidentiary brief for each person of interest. Based on what has been said publicly by ASADA, as many as 30 persons of interest across both codes have been the focus of this investigation"\
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Ings said it could take many months simply to complete a very complicated brief. A more straightforward case would be prepared significantly more quickly.\
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Once the briefs are completed with recommendations, they are passed to ASADA's Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel, which then reviews each evidentiary brief and decides whether or not it agrees with each recommendation.\
\
Only once the ADRVP determines there is a case for an athlete to answer, does the relevant sport have to establish a panel to consider the case. The World Anti-Doping Agency can only appeal a finding once it is considered by such a tribunal.\
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"You just can't predict a timeline with this," Ings said.**
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/asada-probe-ends-without-stephen-danks-input-20140226-33is0.html#ixzz2uVYDMNR0
happy_tiger
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@Knuckles said:
My answer to this is no Knuckles
When you don't question the one person who we all know is definitely connected to the main offenders Cronulla and Essendon what hope is their
@happy tiger said:
Dank is the short route for a resolution. The fact he won't submit for interviews only means that ASADA takes the hard path to deliver the bad news.
Sharks own internal report showed they were given banned peptides, Earl confirmed Dank was behind his suspension, its as good as done sadly.
I must have missed the part about Sharks or any other player being cleared by ASADA.
Also what do you think our Independent Committee could do about a Government regulated organisation taking too long?
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They will all get off knuckles as for our independent body and what could they do ….. Get off there arses and make some noise about this bullshit inquiry
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Also what do you think our Independent Committee could do about a Government regulated organisation taking too long?
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They will all get off knuckles as for our independent body and what could they do ….. Get off there arses and make some noise about this bullshit inquiry
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Don't know why the public are portraying ASADA as the bad guys here… This is a body that has a responsibility to both uphold the integrity of professional sporting competitions and an obligation to protect players health by investigating claims such as those at Essendon and Cronulla. Coupled with the fact that certain people did not want to co-operate, this has only drawn out the process and made it harder for ASADA to collate the necessary information.
A bit of hyperbole here for you, what happens if it comes out that the peptides being administered to Jonny Mannah accelerated his cancer and ultimately contributed to his death? Will everyone still be behind Cronulla and Flanagan then? Will ASADA still be harangued for investigating this?
For Christ's sake, remember who the villains are here.
A bit of hyperbole here for you, what happens if it comes out that the peptides being administered to Jonny Mannah accelerated his cancer and ultimately contributed to his death? Will everyone still be behind Cronulla and Flanagan then? Will ASADA still be harangued for investigating this?
For Christ's sake, remember who the villains are here.
