Shawn Blore #235

[balmain boy]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

 

[Russell]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

 

[Geo]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

 

[momo_amp_medo]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

I think Maguire is nursing him after his major knee injuring. There is nothing to be gained from bringing him in too soon.

Other than winning potentially

That’s definitely a wrong call mate.

 

[Russell]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

 

[balmain boy]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

 

[PabloX]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

I think Maguire is nursing him after his major knee injuring. There is nothing to be gained from bringing him in too soon.

Other than winning potentially

That’s definitely a wrong call mate.

How so? All I said was there's a potential for us to win more if Maguire played him. The injury report suggested he was back at full training.

Anyway, if he's fit give him a run is all I'm suggesting. If there's a risk, don't.

 

[Russell]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

Rowdy shored up the RHS is this guy going to do that?

 

[facepalmer]

We are an interesting squad now. Our depth is a massive strength. We can get injuries just about anywhere and replace them sideways with as good or better options. There's basically nowhere I look in our squad and go "oh darn" if we get an injury there with the exception of maybe Harry Grant but we didn't even have him that long ago and don't next year. But even at 9 long term we still have Liddle who I know is a genuine gun even if he's injury prone, and Simpkin who could be anything, not to mention Walters who can do a job there.

Our major weakness appears to be just not having genuine strike in our squad to put fear into the opposition. Every team approaches our fixture with confidence that they're going to win. That and our attacking gameplanning seems to leave some to be desired.

The other observation is that I feel you can have average halves if you have weapons in the backline but to unlock an average backline you have to have superstar halves. We have a pretty meh backline with average halves. Obviously Brooks has the potential to be better but something has gone wrong in his development, and Marshall honestly has never been able to carry weak outside backs (when we were competitive in 2010/11 we had very good outside backs and in 2005 it was mostly Prince orchestrating things and Marshall was more of a strike weapon himself that a setup guy). We either have to unearth or poach a genuine gun in the halves (super hard) or build a far better backline. Douehi might actually be a genuine gun, we may have managed a coup there. Joey is more than acceptable at centre for now. I like what Talau has shown in a very limited stint at both centre and winger and would be just sticking with him now. I'd be moving Talau to centre and Mbye to the bench to supersub and finding another big winger. Saab would be perfect.

 

[JC99]

We signed strike in Joey and they refuse to give him the ball near the try line

 

[PabloX]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

Rowdy shored up the RHS is this guy going to do that?

Didn't Rowdy and Packer let wighton score?

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

Rowdy shored up the RHS is this guy going to do that?

Didn't Rowdy and Packer let wighton score?

That play exposed Lawrence's biggest weakness - sideways movement, understandable after so many injuries. That is why I think Garner, Lailua, Taylor or MCK are much better option.

 

[balmain boy]

We are an interesting squad now. Our depth is a massive strength. We can get injuries just about anywhere and replace them sideways with as good or better options. There's basically nowhere I look in our squad and go "oh darn" if we get an injury there with the exception of maybe Harry Grant but we didn't even have him that long ago and don't next year. But even at 9 long term we still have Liddle who I know is a genuine gun even if he's injury prone, and Simpkin who could be anything, not to mention Walters who can do a job there.

Our major weakness appears to be just not having genuine strike in our squad to put fear into the opposition. Every team approaches our fixture with confidence that they're going to win. That and our attacking gameplanning seems to leave some to be desired.

The other observation is that I feel you can have average halves if you have weapons in the backline but to unlock an average backline you have to have superstar halves. We have a pretty meh backline with average halves. Obviously Brooks has the potential to be better but something has gone wrong in his development, and Marshall honestly has never been able to carry weak outside backs (when we were competitive in 2010/11 we had very good outside backs and in 2005 it was mostly Prince orchestrating things and Marshall was more of a strike weapon himself that a setup guy). We either have to unearth or poach a genuine gun in the halves (super hard) or build a far better backline. Douehi might actually be a genuine gun, we may have managed a coup there. Joey is more than acceptable at centre for now. I like what Talau has shown in a very limited stint at both centre and winger and would be just sticking with him now. I'd be moving Talau to centre and Mbye to the bench to supersub and finding another big winger. Saab would be perfect.

Some interesting observations, but i disagree with your first statement. Having a whole heap of bog average players isn't depth. It's better to have a star player with a cheap young gun with lots of potential. That's how the roosters and storm manage their cap. Starting players on 450-500k, backup on 100-150k for example, rather than one player on 350k and backup on 250k. Gives your strike (if you recruit well) with your starting player. If he goes down then a young gun gets his chance to impress. A risk perhaps, but if you recruit good young players and they're entering a team with other stars they won't be found out as much. And sometimes you find a gem, like Storm did with Papenhuyzen. If Storm had a corey thompson in their squad Pap never would have got a chance to impress and in time he pushses out more established players.

This is what we need to be aiming for.

Having a squad with players all of teh same average level isn't enough to win games and make the finals. With Jennings and Thompson as backups means we don't lose anything in the short term, but means we're unlikely to unearth a gem. Which means you stay in the same position as you play it safe. This policy isn't working for us.

 

[tony soprano]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

Rowdy shored up the RHS is this guy going to do that?

Didn't Rowdy and Packer let wighton score?

It was an awkward run. Packer was pretty far away from the play and came from far to cover. Seyfarth was around there too was a similar run to the sharks full back try. I’d be ousting seyfarth

 

[851]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

Rowdy shored up the RHS is this guy going to do that?

Didn't Rowdy and Packer let wighton score?

It was an awkward run. Packer was pretty far away from the play and came from far to cover. Seyfarth was around there too was a similar run to the sharks full back try. I’d be ousting seyfarth

I still see nothing in Seyfarth, and after some we’re taking him up I had another look, he is just making up the numbers as far as I can see

 

[Tcat]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

If he is fit, fully recovered and has the confidence to want to play now, why wouldn't you give him a shot.

 

[davey_farrell]

i totally agree Seyfarth has shown nothing since he has been in the team, im actually disappointed in him, give Shawn a go asap!! Lawrence has to go also, 47 meters in attack is just not good enough, we have no impact from the bench

 

[Tiger5150]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

Rowdy shored up the RHS is this guy going to do that?

Didn't Rowdy and Packer let wighton score?

I havent gone back to re-watch but my recollection was that Packer & Seyfarth missed badly

 

[Tcat]

He can't be any worse than Lawrence. He seems to have everything we lack, chuck him on the bench for the love of God

Disagree

How so?
Playing a mobile aggressive big man with a good engine?
Or you prefer proven failures?

Of course if he's not fully fit then you don't risk him. But as soon as he's good to go you throw him in there.

He's coming back from a major injury, still in rehab I believe.

I wouldn't risk playing him straight into the NRL and there is nowhere else to play him at the moment.

Wouldn't like to see him end up like Ryan James.

Came out of rehab the same time as Packer who hadn’t played for over a Year...

Only player before yesterday’s game in rehab is Liddle..he is also close to returning to full training

Well I wouldn't be playing him this year if was up to me.

Good thing it's not then. Since when does a player need two years off after an ACL? No complications. Been back in full training for weeks. He's fit, not match fit, but physically he's apparently good to go.

Of course if he's hesitant in training at all then give him time. If he's dominating in training then give him a run. Will offer more than Lawrence and Seyfarth.

Rowdy shored up the RHS is this guy going to do that?

Didn't Rowdy and Packer let wighton score?


I havent gone back to re-watch but my recollection was that Packer & Seyfarth missed badly

Seyfarth hasn't filled me with much confidence. He is only just starting out, but nothing special atm tbh.

 

[balmain boy]

Seyfarth is still too small for his frame and needs to bulk up more. Otherwise he just gets pushed around too easily. He has more upside than Eiso but needs a year in the gym and playing CC to toughen up and get more power in attack and defence. He got his shot due to working hard, if he keeps working hard he'll get there in a year or two. But for now he's still a project, and not up for first grade.