Shawn Blore #235

[hank37w]

Or more likely he met with Bellyache but there was no offer so now his manager is fishing for an extension.

He is contracted for next year, so that technically he can't be made any formal offers by other clubs until 1st November, for what that is worth and we all know that is not worth much.

 

[hank37w]

Blore will stay. Can feel it in my bones.

Mate if you are anything like me that would be arthritis.

 

[hank37w]

It's our squad. We have 1 spot available and we need to resign some players and recruit some players. It's a mess at this point.

I bet there are some tough internal discussions. I'd expect that to be the case.

This club has signed some absolutely ridiculous contracts and extensions in the last year or two, quite possibly because we could not attract players and just crossed the fingers and signed from within just to make up the numbers and now that we have cap money we have dead wood that we need to some how move on which is really hurting us.

 

[hank37w]

Storm have moved on.

Not unexpected.

 

[weststigerman]

It's our squad. We have 1 spot available and we need to resign some players and recruit some players. It's a mess at this point.

I bet there are some tough internal discussions. I'd expect that to be the case.

You may have to move players on but you can’t have one side of the club wanting to keep a player with no knowledge they are being shopped around and the other side desperate to keep the player.

It’s very difficult for any coach to be successful when they also have to manage internal politics and players receiving mixed messages.

 

[Demps]

Storm have moved on.

Smart move

 

[gregjm87]

It's our squad. We have 1 spot available and we need to resign some players and recruit some players. It's a mess at this point.

I bet there are some tough internal discussions. I'd expect that to be the case.

This is true for many but not for Blore. He has a contract for next season already and there are plenty of spots available for 25.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

Blore is on the books for 24 , need to hook him up for 25 , I’d keep him over sayfarts

I would’ve agreed 100% on seyfarth but he’s just shown something in his last couple. Dunno.

 

[earl]

This club has signed some absolutely ridiculous contracts and extensions in the last year or two, quite possibly because we could not attract players and just crossed the fingers and signed from within just to make up the numbers and now that we have cap money we have dead wood that we need to some how move on which is really hurting us.

Exactly. I assume they are trying to sign players and need spots for next year. It's all cleared up in 25 dependent on the juniors they've promised spots too.

 

[earl]

Blore is on the books for 24 , need to hook him up for 25 , I’d keep him over sayfarts

I want to keep both of them. Blore has been great off the bench.

 

[team tigar]

He is contracted for next year, so that technically he can't be made any formal offers by other clubs until 1st November, for what that is worth and we all know that is not worth much.

Remember boy's n girl's they tapped him on the shoulder can't blame the kid for exploring his option's

 

[hammertime]

What do we think the 2 week time frame is? Moving players on or olkauatu?

 

[GCfan]

Id like to know who the half of the club are that didn’t want him.

Too many people calling the shots. I don’t know why they can’t keep this stuff internal and sing to the same tune externally.

If you believe the comments from the clubs Chairman, “they” don’t influence recruiting decisions other than cap oversight. Pascoe did say the decision rests with the coach, irrespective of how robust the discussions in the recruitment panel meetings are. So if Benji wants him surely he’ll be offered an extension. Of course only if its all true.

 

[Enmore_Tiger]

Blore is on the books for 24 , need to hook him up for 25 , I’d keep him over sayfarts

So Storm could not have tabled a contract as mentioned because can only be done after Nov 1 right?

I'm a huge Blore fan, love watching him play, it's been limited but just got the feeling he's got it.

 

[Tom Shines]

Storm have moved on.

Why would they move on from Kepaoa ? Havent they been watching him play for us?

 

[hank37w]

If you believe the comments from the clubs Chairman, “they” don’t influence recruiting decisions other than cap oversight. Pascoe did say the decision rests with the coach, irrespective of how robust the discussions in the recruitment panel meetings are. So if Benji wants him surely he’ll be offered an extension. Of course only if its all true.

Of course this is true, the coaches can have whatever player they want irrespective of whatever anyone else on the recruitment panel thinks or says, it's just that this does not extend to who the coaches would like as Recruitment Manager.

It is not deemed necessary for the club to consult with the coaching staff with regards to who the Recruitment Manager is as the Recruitment Manager is only responsible for recruiting the playing personnel that ultimately has a bearing on the success that the coach has.

Pretty simple really.

 

[GCfan]

Of course this is true, the coaches can have whatever player they want irrespective of whatever anyone else on the recruitment panel thinks or says, it's just that this does not extend to who the coaches would like as Recruitment Manager.

It is not deemed necessary for the club to consult with the coaching staff with regards to who the Recruitment Manager is as the Recruitment Manager is only responsible for recruiting the playing personnel that ultimately has a bearing on the success that the coach has.

Pretty simple really.

Not sure it’s that simple otherwise all the discussion about why we’re letting player X go or not extending player Y is for nothing. It’s all just Benji’s decision then is it not?

Your first paragraph seems to suggest that the coach calls the shots on who gets contracted but I read your final paragraph as saying the coach’s success or otherwise is in the hands of who the recruitment manager ultimately goes out and signs. Am I misunderstanding what your saying?

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

So Storm could not have tabled a contract as mentioned because can only be done after Nov 1 right?

I'm a huge Blore fan, love watching him play, it's been limited but just got the feeling he's got it.

Yes they could have as he was given permission to look elsewhere. Talks with Melbourne probably never advanced enough to get to a contract stage.

 

[hank37w]

Not sure it’s that simple otherwise all the discussion about why we’re letting player X go or not extending player Y is for nothing. It’s all just Benji’s decision then is it not?

Your first paragraph seems to suggest that the coach calls the shots on who gets contracted but I read your final paragraph as saying the coach’s success or otherwise is in the hands of who the recruitment manager ultimately goes out and signs. Am I misunderstanding what your saying?

Yes you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say.

I was having a crack at Pascoe/Lee/The Board over their constant double standards and bullshit that on one hand they are saying that the coach gets the players he wants yet they parachute in a recruitment manager behind the coaches backs.

I was trying to highlight the disagreements the coaches and the recruitment manager have supposedly had as far as players that were a priority to target.

Whether that was ever the case and if it was, whether it is now actually resolved we will probably never know for sure.

I don't know whether Fulton will turn out to be a great appointment for us but sincerely hope that it all works out well, but the fact of the matter is that on one of the ask the boss segments both Pascoe and Lee admitted that they didn't know Scott Fulton and neither of them had anything to do with him prior to appointing him.

Lee had to phone Ray Hadley to get advice on the appointment and it is common knowledge how close Hadley was to Bob Fulton and his family going back at least 30-40 years, so of course he gave Scott Fulton a glowing endorsement, and it looks like that was enough to go behind the coaches backs and for the dynamic duo to make the appointment.

The bottom line is and the point I was trying to make, albeit in a sarcastic manner, was how can we trust what Pascoe and Lee say about the coach getting who he wants in his playing roster when they have so blatantly gone behind the coaches backs in the past and meddled with matters that affect the football department when they openly admit that they have little or no expertise in that area.

I may not have explained that all that well but hope it goes some way to clarify what I was trying to get across.

 

[BAGNF05]

Yes you completely misunderstood what I was trying to say.

I was having a crack at Pascoe/Lee/The Board over their constant double standards and bullshit that on one hand they are saying that the coach gets the players he wants yet they parachute in a recruitment manager behind the coaches backs.

I was trying to highlight the disagreements the coaches and the recruitment manager have supposedly had as far as players that were a priority to target.

Whether that was ever the case and if it was, whether it is now actually resolved we will probably never know for sure.

I don't know whether Fulton will turn out to be a great appointment for us but sincerely hope that it all works out well, but the fact of the matter is that on one of the ask the boss segments both Pascoe and Lee admitted that they didn't know Scott Fulton and neither of them had anything to do with him prior to appointing him.

Lee had to phone Ray Hadley to get advice on the appointment and it is common knowledge how close Hadley was to Bob Fulton and his family going back at least 30-40 years, so of course he gave Scott Fulton a glowing endorsement, and it looks like that was enough to go behind the coaches backs and for the dynamic duo to make the appointment.

The bottom line is and the point I was trying to make, albeit in a sarcastic manner, was how can we trust what Pascoe and Lee say about the coach getting who he wants in his playing roster when they have so blatantly gone behind the coaches backs in the past and meddled with matters that affect the football department when they openly admit that they have little or no expertise in that area.

I may not have explained that all that well but hope it goes some way to clarify what I was trying to get across.

Everyone can see how these knuckleheads impact on results now mate, some just choose to ignore it because they think that’s what supporters should do.