Sheens Doesn't Want a Traditional Halfback

@helmesy said:
@Tiger Watto said:
After 5 years of this experiment, you think Sheens would accept he is wrong… The icing was delivered on the cake during last years Four Nations Series!!!

History shows us 'less' of Marshall is more benificial to the team. [Wayne Bennett has also told me he believes less is also the key to Benji] The games where Benji plays his winning hand is when he is only involved for 10-15 Minutes. At present, Benji is too involved in the structural aspect of the Tigers game and has no choice but to get involved as we are lacking a genuine cattle dog to guide the troops.

I know this will probably never unfold, but some weeks I truely wish we did move him to Fullback purely to **force someone else to direct the team up the middle** and allow Benji to use his greatest asset, SPEED!

Hard to argue with any of that.

Braith Anasta?

Spine of:
1\. Marshall
6\. Anasta
7\. Miller
9\. Farah
 
@willow said:
@tig_prmz said:
still think

6\. benji
7\. farah
9\. humble

would work. or try miller at half. obviously what we have now isnt work. change something pleassee sheens change! (not a stupid one though)

Farah is about to be selected for NSW at hooker. He is never going to be the Tigers fulltime halfback.

once origin is out of the way robbie can play 1/2 back because he will never replace smith in the aussie side, and is is the tigers best option at 1/2 whether u or any one like or not and we are talking at the tigers not n.s.w.
 
We are dealing with Sheens, so here a few facts
1–Miller has no chance, if he has not been given a extended crack by now its not going to happen in the future, would imagine his contract will not be renewed or at best a second tier job

2--Humble is seen only as a stop gap measure, he would not be dropped to reserves if Sheens actually had him in his plans.

As for next year

Benji will wear the no7 on his back but Anasta will probably play first reciever, pushing Benji a bit wider and their is no reason why that will not work. The big question will be Moltzen and where he will fit into the side. Iam one of the very few people that would have persevered a bit longer with Moltzen as our no7.On the few games we saw he was defensively strong and Iam sure his attack would have developed,lets face our attacking game has not improved since he was moved and he was playing against stronger teams when he had the seven on his back.

Anyway anything is possible when Sheens pulls the team sheets once a week
 
@Mighty Tigers said:
If Marshall had a genuine half back next to him he could inject himself in the game when needed not try something on every play. A less predictable Benji with no pressure wow look out!

He's had that all year before last week, there have been link men in the 7, they can organise the forward hit ups and the backline play, and Marshall can call when he sees it…

Dont need a genuine half for what we're doing, he'd be wasted, not allowed to play

You know, even with a 80 min benchie - at times were really playing with 15....cause we have no half!!! :crazy
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...... and year 9 three season veteran whasisname in the other thread reckons hes going to flip out!!?!?!?!?!?!
 
We've never had continuity have we …. We seem to keep shuffling the deck every time we go through a bad patch.
We just can't produce a half back can we.
 
@innsaneink said:
Some dont get a real fair go either knuck

Yeah Whoever we choose it has to be long term and we have to show perserverance with them much like we did with Lui

But people will have to be prepared for that this person might puts in some shockers while in transition stage
 
@Knuckles said:
We've never had continuity have we …. We seem to keep shuffling the deck every time we go through a bad patch.
We just can't produce a half back can we.

There is one …the only 1/2 since Prince playing the micky mouse NYC league your face either fits or not !
 
Here lies our problem, Sheens trys to innovate to much, he loves utility players our recruitment is a bit of a joke when you look at it we don't have specialist players in key positions instead of signing a solid 7 he signs centers that can play wing, and a 5/8 at fullback. If we want to be serious contenders we need a specialist full back, speedy youthful wingers and a number 7 that can kick well and organise.
 
Marshall to 7 is a 'no no'. This experiment was conducted for most of '09, and it's results read 'failed', 5 wins, 10 losses, sitting in 14th position.

Unless we want to regress to the days of missing the finals, we HAVE to have Marshall at 6 and somebody more than adequately supporting him at 7\. Look at our good years, '05, '10 and '11, Marshall was at 6 and he had a good 7 beside him who could assume key roles when Benji needed relief most. Tommy Humble does not have the natural ability or instinct to adequately perform these roles, and this is why Benji's workload has been as high as ever this year. Yes, he's a genius, magician, wizard etc. but what's being required of him right now is too much to handle.

Anasta has not played much, if at all at 7, but he's a true professional with all the attributes needed to be a good half-back. I would certainly endorse Sheen's decision to put him at halfback.

2013 1,6,7,9 should look like this IMO:

1.Tedesco

6.Marshall
7.Anasta

9.Farah
 
Just back from the BRET game, Humble played no7 and was given the keys to the car and was VERY good. Kicking game excellent,passing game excellent and made lots of very good choices in attack. Okay it might have been reserve grade, but he had the skills and was allowed to use them. Only if Sheens could get the message that you need a no7 to run the show and not Benji
 
@citizen cub said:
Marshall to 7 is a 'no no'. This experiment was conducted for most of '09, and it's results read 'failed', 5 wins, 10 losses, sitting in 14th position.

Unless we want to regress to the days of missing the finals, we HAVE to have Marshall at 6 and somebody more than adequately supporting him at 7\. Look at our good years, '05, '10 and '11, Marshall was at 6 and he had a good 7 beside him who could assume key roles when Benji needed relief most. Tommy Humble does not have the natural ability or instinct to adequately perform these roles, and this is why Benji's workload has been as high as ever this year. Yes, he's a genius, magician, wizard etc. but what's being required of him right now is too much to handle.

Anasta has not played much, if at all at 7, but he's a true professional with all the attributes needed to be a good half-back. I would certainly endorse Sheen's decision to put him at halfback.

2013 1,6,7,9 should look like this IMO:

1.Tedesco

6.Marshall
7.Anasta

9.Farah

Agree re Benji @ 7.

However, unless things have changed, Braith will play second row. And the comments re: Humble and no natural ability, disagree. He is a massively talented individual and think he'll make a great half; like other threads, it's jut a matter of time. Consistency and persistence will eventually pay, Lui being a prime example.
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@ryanda01 said:
@citizen cub said:
Marshall to 7 is a 'no no'. This experiment was conducted for most of '09, and it's results read 'failed', 5 wins, 10 losses, sitting in 14th position.

Unless we want to regress to the days of missing the finals, we HAVE to have Marshall at 6 and somebody more than adequately supporting him at 7\. Look at our good years, '05, '10 and '11, Marshall was at 6 and he had a good 7 beside him who could assume key roles when Benji needed relief most. Tommy Humble does not have the natural ability or instinct to adequately perform these roles, and this is why Benji's workload has been as high as ever this year. Yes, he's a genius, magician, wizard etc. but what's being required of him right now is too much to handle.

Anasta has not played much, if at all at 7, but he's a true professional with all the attributes needed to be a good half-back. I would certainly endorse Sheen's decision to put him at halfback.

2013 1,6,7,9 should look like this IMO:

1.Tedesco

6.Marshall
7.Anasta

9.Farah

Agree re Benji @ 7.

However, unless things have changed, Braith will play second row. And the comments re: Humble and no natural ability, disagree. He is a massively talented individual and think he'll make a great half; like other threads, it's jut a matter of time. **Consistency and persistence will eventually pay, Lui being a prime example**.
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Lui was consistent from day 1… It was just many on here wanted Moltzen wearing 7\. :unamused:

Its sad that he had external challenges, as I feel we wouldve been a lot better team this year with Lui still at the club providing that extra edge in the halves...
 
alll i hear is bla bla 2013 bla bla.

seems most of us have given up on 2012\. not that i can blame us, but gaah they have made it soo difficult for fans to have faith in them.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@ryanda01 said:
@citizen cub said:
Marshall to 7 is a 'no no'. This experiment was conducted for most of '09, and it's results read 'failed', 5 wins, 10 losses, sitting in 14th position.

Unless we want to regress to the days of missing the finals, we HAVE to have Marshall at 6 and somebody more than adequately supporting him at 7\. Look at our good years, '05, '10 and '11, Marshall was at 6 and he had a good 7 beside him who could assume key roles when Benji needed relief most. Tommy Humble does not have the natural ability or instinct to adequately perform these roles, and this is why Benji's workload has been as high as ever this year. Yes, he's a genius, magician, wizard etc. but what's being required of him right now is too much to handle.

Anasta has not played much, if at all at 7, but he's a true professional with all the attributes needed to be a good half-back. I would certainly endorse Sheen's decision to put him at halfback.

6.Marshall
2013 1,6,7,9 should look like this IMO:
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7.Anasta

9.Farah

Agree re Benji @ 7.

However, unless things have changed, Braith will play second row. And the comments re: Humble and no natural ability, disagree. He is a massively talented individual and think he'll make a great half; like other threads, it's jut a matter of time. **Consistency and persistence will eventually pay, Lui being a prime example**.
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Lui was consistent from day 1… It was just many on here wanted Moltzen wearing 7\. :unamused:

Its sad that he had external challenges, as I feel we wouldve been a lot better team this year with Lui still at the club providing that extra edge in the halves...

Agree this season would of been Luis best but not to be..he had all the goods,not being able to replace him has been a disaster and this has only been made worse by the coaches inability to settle on and move forward with a replacement ..his answer a different player each couple of weeks wonders never cease.
 
I think we should persist with Humble at half. I reckon he will make a good one, eventually, but changing the team around and putting him back on the bench every second week is not going to help his development.
 
@citizen cub said:
Marshall to 7 is a 'no no'. This experiment was conducted for most of '09, and it's results read 'failed', 5 wins, 10 losses, sitting in 14th position.

Unless we want to regress to the days of missing the finals, we HAVE to have Marshall at 6 and somebody more than adequately supporting him at 7\. Look at our good years, '05, '10 and '11, Marshall was at 6 and he had a good 7 beside him who could assume key roles when Benji needed relief most. Tommy Humble does not have the natural ability or instinct to adequately perform these roles, and this is why Benji's workload has been as high as ever this year. Yes, he's a genius, magician, wizard etc. but what's being required of him right now is too much to handle.

Anasta has not played much, if at all at 7, but he's a true professional with all the attributes needed to be a good half-back. I would certainly endorse Sheen's decision to put him at halfback.

2013 1,6,7,9 should look like this IMO:

1.Tedesco

6.Marshall
7.Anasta

9.Farah

Marshall already plays 7 ….what games do some people watch ?
 

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