Sheens replacing Madge

[tony soprano]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

 

[gallagher]

We can't replace Madge at the moment, purely for our credibility externally. He has the runs on the board.

The changes would need to be made at CEO level first, before we contemplate the coach. Even if the issue is the coach, he hasn't presided over the hole that we're in. He's desperately trying to dig us out.

I've always been a big backer of Pascoe, but he may need to fall on his sword soon if things don't improve.

What does Pascoe have todo with performance of the football department?

He had a direct hand in the farah fiasco, backing JT at the time and also losing the 'Big 3'. To say he is not accountable for anything to do with football is rubbish.

A CEO cannot appoint a manager underneath him (i.e. Head Coach) and absolve responsibility. It's not 2 separate organizations.

Is the head coach also responsible to ensure that the junior pathway structure is set? Or does the CEO make sure he has the right people in for that. Major dropped ball there.

Lets also not forget the direct impact he had on our football department with that cap fine.

Who do you think told him to remove Farah. It would not have been Pascoe’s idea.

You absolutely can have organisation’s where the CEO has operational and financial responsibility but not football responsibility. Most CEO’s would be clueless when it comes to what makes a good football team. In that instance the CEO only has operational responsibility ie pay and entitlements over the football dept, but the head of football has performance responsibility and would report to the Board.

Many organisations are set up like this.

As I said I haven’t seen an Org Chart but viewing how things have occurred I think this is most likely how Wests Tigers are run. Before the head of football was appointed it would have been solely the coach.

It is even more likely when there is such a different skill set needed to run each side of the business of a footy club.

Exactly.

Football clubs are really a 2 headed beast, you have the football department and then virtually unrelated the commercial side of the business. Both sides rely on the results of the other but the management of them would usually be best kept separate.

Does Hartigan report direct to the board?

No, on paper it is to Pascoe but having spoken to him a number of times he has a lot of freedom in his role.

@gallagher
I was correct ?

For the first time, your on a roll.

Next question ?‍♂️

Who does Sheens report to?

God

Noycie coming back too?

 

[cochise]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

I think those on the sack somebody side want to know more about these systems. To us it just feels like our system is ‘sign anyone we can get’. TPJ being the latest example.

I think the strategy is quite clear and have spoken about it a lot on here, we are signing the best young players and are currently spending money to improve our pathways to give them the best chance of progressing to NRL level. At this point in time we have difficulty attracting the elite NRL talent and that will not change until we get past the 10 years without a finals berth stigma that currently dogs us.

But there’s a fatal flaw in that system which we’re seeing play out before our eyes. Young guys like Laurie and Cini will go backwards and then probably leave unless we can give them the Dale Finucane’s of the world to learn their trade from.

It’s happened once before under this very CEO. Time for new blood.

The signing of Tamou was an effort to address that and I believe he is doing wonders for the young guys behind the scenes, he needs improve his output on the field though.

I would be very happy if we signed Finucane.

 

[tony soprano]

We can't replace Madge at the moment, purely for our credibility externally. He has the runs on the board.

The changes would need to be made at CEO level first, before we contemplate the coach. Even if the issue is the coach, he hasn't presided over the hole that we're in. He's desperately trying to dig us out.

I've always been a big backer of Pascoe, but he may need to fall on his sword soon if things don't improve.

What does Pascoe have todo with performance of the football department?

He had a direct hand in the farah fiasco, backing JT at the time and also losing the 'Big 3'. To say he is not accountable for anything to do with football is rubbish.

A CEO cannot appoint a manager underneath him (i.e. Head Coach) and absolve responsibility. It's not 2 separate organizations.

Is the head coach also responsible to ensure that the junior pathway structure is set? Or does the CEO make sure he has the right people in for that. Major dropped ball there.

Lets also not forget the direct impact he had on our football department with that cap fine.

Who do you think told him to remove Farah. It would not have been Pascoe’s idea.

You absolutely can have organisation’s where the CEO has operational and financial responsibility but not football responsibility. Most CEO’s would be clueless when it comes to what makes a good football team. In that instance the CEO only has operational responsibility ie pay and entitlements over the football dept, but the head of football has performance responsibility and would report to the Board.

Many organisations are set up like this.

As I said I haven’t seen an Org Chart but viewing how things have occurred I think this is most likely how Wests Tigers are run. Before the head of football was appointed it would have been solely the coach.

It is even more likely when there is such a different skill set needed to run each side of the business of a footy club.

Exactly.

Football clubs are really a 2 headed beast, you have the football department and then virtually unrelated the commercial side of the business. Both sides rely on the results of the other but the management of them would usually be best kept separate.

Does Hartigan report direct to the board?

No, on paper it is to Pascoe but having spoken to him a number of times he has a lot of freedom in his role.

@gallagher
I was correct ?

For the first time, your on a roll.

Next question ?‍♂️

Who does Sheens report to?

God

Have you ever realised you have never seen god and sheens in the same place?

 

[cochise]

We can't replace Madge at the moment, purely for our credibility externally. He has the runs on the board.

The changes would need to be made at CEO level first, before we contemplate the coach. Even if the issue is the coach, he hasn't presided over the hole that we're in. He's desperately trying to dig us out.

I've always been a big backer of Pascoe, but he may need to fall on his sword soon if things don't improve.

What does Pascoe have todo with performance of the football department?

He had a direct hand in the farah fiasco, backing JT at the time and also losing the 'Big 3'. To say he is not accountable for anything to do with football is rubbish.

A CEO cannot appoint a manager underneath him (i.e. Head Coach) and absolve responsibility. It's not 2 separate organizations.

Is the head coach also responsible to ensure that the junior pathway structure is set? Or does the CEO make sure he has the right people in for that. Major dropped ball there.

Lets also not forget the direct impact he had on our football department with that cap fine.

Who do you think told him to remove Farah. It would not have been Pascoe’s idea.

You absolutely can have organisation’s where the CEO has operational and financial responsibility but not football responsibility. Most CEO’s would be clueless when it comes to what makes a good football team. In that instance the CEO only has operational responsibility ie pay and entitlements over the football dept, but the head of football has performance responsibility and would report to the Board.

Many organisations are set up like this.

As I said I haven’t seen an Org Chart but viewing how things have occurred I think this is most likely how Wests Tigers are run. Before the head of football was appointed it would have been solely the coach.

It is even more likely when there is such a different skill set needed to run each side of the business of a footy club.

Exactly.

Football clubs are really a 2 headed beast, you have the football department and then virtually unrelated the commercial side of the business. Both sides rely on the results of the other but the management of them would usually be best kept separate.

Does Hartigan report direct to the board?

No, on paper it is to Pascoe but having spoken to him a number of times he has a lot of freedom in his role.

@gallagher
I was correct ?

For the first time, your on a roll.

Next question ?‍♂️

Who does Sheens report to?

God

No he is god, anyone who can get this club to a premiership must be devine.

 

[cochise]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

 

[BAGNF05]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

I think those on the sack somebody side want to know more about these systems. To us it just feels like our system is ‘sign anyone we can get’. TPJ being the latest example.

I think the strategy is quite clear and have spoken about it a lot on here, we are signing the best young players and are currently spending money to improve our pathways to give them the best chance of progressing to NRL level. At this point in time we have difficulty attracting the elite NRL talent and that will not change until we get past the 10 years without a finals berth stigma that currently dogs us.

But there’s a fatal flaw in that system which we’re seeing play out before our eyes. Young guys like Laurie and Cini will go backwards and then probably leave unless we can give them the Dale Finucane’s of the world to learn their trade from.

It’s happened once before under this very CEO. Time for new blood.

The signing of Tamou was an effort to address that and I believe he is doing wonders for the young guys behind the scenes, he needs improve his output on the field though.

I would be very happy if we signed Finucane.

Tamou = too little too late

 

[tony soprano]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

 

[hobbo1]

We can't replace Madge at the moment, purely for our credibility externally. He has the runs on the board.

The changes would need to be made at CEO level first, before we contemplate the coach. Even if the issue is the coach, he hasn't presided over the hole that we're in. He's desperately trying to dig us out.

I've always been a big backer of Pascoe, but he may need to fall on his sword soon if things don't improve.

What does Pascoe have todo with performance of the football department?

He had a direct hand in the farah fiasco, backing JT at the time and also losing the 'Big 3'. To say he is not accountable for anything to do with football is rubbish.

A CEO cannot appoint a manager underneath him (i.e. Head Coach) and absolve responsibility. It's not 2 separate organizations.

Is the head coach also responsible to ensure that the junior pathway structure is set? Or does the CEO make sure he has the right people in for that. Major dropped ball there.

Lets also not forget the direct impact he had on our football department with that cap fine.

Who do you think told him to remove Farah. It would not have been Pascoe’s idea.

You absolutely can have organisation’s where the CEO has operational and financial responsibility but not football responsibility. Most CEO’s would be clueless when it comes to what makes a good football team. In that instance the CEO only has operational responsibility ie pay and entitlements over the football dept, but the head of football has performance responsibility and would report to the Board.

Many organisations are set up like this.

As I said I haven’t seen an Org Chart but viewing how things have occurred I think this is most likely how Wests Tigers are run. Before the head of football was appointed it would have been solely the coach.

It is even more likely when there is such a different skill set needed to run each side of the business of a footy club.

Exactly.

Football clubs are really a 2 headed beast, you have the football department and then virtually unrelated the commercial side of the business. Both sides rely on the results of the other but the management of them would usually be best kept separate.

Does Hartigan report direct to the board?

No, on paper it is to Pascoe but having spoken to him a number of times he has a lot of freedom in his role.

@gallagher
I was correct ?

For the first time, your on a roll.

Next question ?‍♂️

Who does Sheens report to?

God

Noycie coming back too?

Nah mate but sheenius was besties wth Harry ..hopefully Harry comes around and drops his wallet!

 

[cochise]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

 

[BAGNF05]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

Which pod mate? Share the deets?

 

[WT2K]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

What's the pod?

 

[tony soprano]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

Nah it’s really good.

 

[tony soprano]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

What's the pod?

https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/

 

[cochise]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

Which pod mate? Share the deets?

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28886/wests-tigers-podcast-hosted-by-helmsey-eddie/597

This weeks Ep
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0114/

 

[BAGNF05]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

Which pod mate? Share the deets?

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28886/wests-tigers-podcast-hosted-by-helmsey-eddie/597

This weeks Ep
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0114/

I don’t miss an ep, great work! You must be more positive on here lol

 

[cochise]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

Which pod mate? Share the deets?

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28886/wests-tigers-podcast-hosted-by-helmsey-eddie/597

This weeks Ep
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0114/

I don’t miss an ep, great work! You must be more positive on here lol

The pod is my therapy, vent on there and then I'm good for the week. If you listen closely you can usually here my mood change throughout the episode.

 

[BAGNF05]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

Which pod mate? Share the deets?

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28886/wests-tigers-podcast-hosted-by-helmsey-eddie/597

This weeks Ep
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0114/

I don’t miss an ep, great work! You must be more positive on here lol

The pod is my therapy, vent on there and then I'm good for the week. If you listen closely you can usually here my mood change throughout the episode.

Listening to it actually works the same for me. Like minds getting things off their chests haha I agree with most of the analysis of players too, you guys know the game.

 

[BAGNF05]

We can't replace Madge at the moment, purely for our credibility externally. He has the runs on the board.

The changes would need to be made at CEO level first, before we contemplate the coach. Even if the issue is the coach, he hasn't presided over the hole that we're in. He's desperately trying to dig us out.

I've always been a big backer of Pascoe, but he may need to fall on his sword soon if things don't improve.

What does Pascoe have todo with performance of the football department?

He had a direct hand in the farah fiasco, backing JT at the time and also losing the 'Big 3'. To say he is not accountable for anything to do with football is rubbish.

A CEO cannot appoint a manager underneath him (i.e. Head Coach) and absolve responsibility. It's not 2 separate organizations.

Is the head coach also responsible to ensure that the junior pathway structure is set? Or does the CEO make sure he has the right people in for that. Major dropped ball there.

Lets also not forget the direct impact he had on our football department with that cap fine.

Who do you think told him to remove Farah. It would not have been Pascoe’s idea.

You absolutely can have organisation’s where the CEO has operational and financial responsibility but not football responsibility. Most CEO’s would be clueless when it comes to what makes a good football team. In that instance the CEO only has operational responsibility ie pay and entitlements over the football dept, but the head of football has performance responsibility and would report to the Board.

Many organisations are set up like this.

As I said I haven’t seen an Org Chart but viewing how things have occurred I think this is most likely how Wests Tigers are run. Before the head of football was appointed it would have been solely the coach.

It is even more likely when there is such a different skill set needed to run each side of the business of a footy club.

Exactly.

Football clubs are really a 2 headed beast, you have the football department and then virtually unrelated the commercial side of the business. Both sides rely on the results of the other but the management of them would usually be best kept separate.

Does Hartigan report direct to the board?

No, on paper it is to Pascoe but having spoken to him a number of times he has a lot of freedom in his role.

@gallagher
I was correct ?

For the first time, your on a roll.

Next question ?‍♂️

Who does Sheens report to?

God

Noycie coming back too?

Nah mate but sheenius was besties wth Harry ..hopefully Harry comes around and drops his wallet!

Can Harry take Dale and Tavita for a hit of golf with said wallet? ?

 

[cochise]

Surely someone gets the axe from this years performance I’m looking at hartigan.

If that is the decision we make we are in a lot of trouble.

The system ain’t working at the moment would you agree and who would you let go?

No I don't agree, I think the changes we are currently making are to ensure our future. We are signing good young talent, we are now putting the systems in place to ensure they have the best opportunity to transition into 1st grade.

Hartigan would be the last person I sack.

We got beat by over 60 the current mob are hopeless

Which has nothing to do with what I said, we are currently building for the future and you want to sack the one guy that has the most chance of ensuring we are attracting the right young players to our club.

Who would you let go of then?

Or it’s all rainbows ? and this lot are Magically going to turn things around?


Someone needs to go this year performance should be unacceptable

At this point I am not convinced about Maguire as coach but do not believe the club is in a position to sack him. I do believe we are making the decisions at the moment that will see us in a better position in the future.

Re watching storm game, I heard on wests tigers podcast someone at the club said to them they weren’t keen on dale finucane cause he can’t pass. Are you kidding me watch the storm game he is all class.

Wonder if ripping out the current coaches and replace them with Flanagan. We already have Flanagan ex physio?

lol, it wasn't me that said that. I would take Finucane and TPJ.

Are you on that podcast mate?

Yes lol

Nice mate I really enjoy it.

I'm Garry, only started doing it this year. I'm probably the one you disagree with.

Which pod mate? Share the deets?

https://weststigersforum.com/topic/28886/wests-tigers-podcast-hosted-by-helmsey-eddie/597

This weeks Ep
https://weststigerspodcast.com.au/wests-tigers-podcast-0114/

I don’t miss an ep, great work! You must be more positive on here lol

The pod is my therapy, vent on there and then I'm good for the week. If you listen closely you can usually here my mood change throughout the episode.

Listening to it actually works the same for me. Like minds getting things off their chests haha I agree with most of the analysis of players too, you guys know the game.

Thanks mate, I really enjoy doing it.