Sheens without Benji = clueless

[cnx_tigers]

Benji's brilliance has effectively CARRIED Tim Sheens for years now…freak plays have won us games, stuff that **wasn't coached. Natural freak stuff**

Take out Benji..........and we have no structure, no real game plan, none of our young blokes have improved compared to players at other clubs (reference = no Origin players). Even Farrah has regressed massively and can't make Origin at a time there's no decent hookers for NSW.

This bloke is a dud coach. He's old and his lack of gameplans are killing us .(Anyone can yell "go sideways, throw it around, hope Benji bails us out".)

We needed a new era desperately. I don't care if Benji would have cried for a month without Sheens, he'd have gotten over it. We needed a culture change and some actual game plans that work long term / something with structure, not simply hoping No. 6 bails us out.

Geez I hope he does the right thing and quits.

 

[tiger05]

You have it completely wrong. Our team without Benji = totally clueless.

 

[innsaneink]

Been saying it for years

No one listens

 

[biggest_tigers_fan]

No BENJI=NO WIN…..simple really

 

[Defiant]

I blame just a few players tonight.

Between the refs early and our errors we gifted the game.

 

[cnx_tigers]

You have it completely wrong. Our team without Benji = totally clueless.

Who has had almost ten years to construct that team / coach them / give them a gameplan ?

Who has coached our forward pack to be the most passive, soft, lacking any aggression pack in the comp?

Who has coached our halves to be fullbacks?

Who has let the team run for years without any 'real' structure?

The bloke has just collected a pay cheque on the back of BENJI winning us games for way, way too long.

And we just gave him three more years :frowning:

John Lang, Elliot (almost beat us down all his rep players) and Kevin Moore have outcoached him this season and they've all been sacked :imp:

 

[happy_tiger]

Our attack was woeful thats true ,but once Farah moved to first reciever we looked better . What cost us Two bad mistakes by MacKinnon and one shocking defensive read by Lui . But what did we expect with two inexperienced play makers Have not had a real shot at Sheens before but I will now . It took him too long to see that what he was planning did not work but once he made change we were better .

 

[king_sirro]

The sad thing is, i got the impression he dead set didnt give Miller a chance. Maybe im wrong, but it seemed he made Miller stay on the left and then decided to play all our attack on the right. When the game was gone it looked like Miller thought "stuff it", and he got himself involved and he looked ok. If your going to put a young guy in then give him free reign to do what he does best.

Im really tired of this left and right crap. Left centre, left backrower….and now we bloody have left and right halves....i cant believe it. These halves have come through the grades dominating all over the park, but once they get into first grade, they get told to stay on one side. I just dont get it.

 

[Snake]

Sheens is washed up as a NRL coach if he has 7 internationals in his team he looks good but give him a team he has to coach forget it .. he should of been punted 4 yrs ago. Tonights coaching performance was as good as at least 5 players that are selected every week regardless pathetic.

 

[biggest_tigers_fan]

he is the Australian coach remember :crazy

 

[cnx_tigers]

The sad thing is, i got the impression he dead set didnt give Miller a chance. Maybe im wrong, but it seemed he made Miller stay on the left and then decided to play all our attack on the right. When the game was gone it looked like Miller thought "stuff it", and he got himself involved and he looked ok. If your going to put a young guy in then give him free reign to do what he does best.

Im really tired of this left and right crap. Left centre, left backrower….and now we bloody have left and right halves....i cant believe it. These halves have come through the grades dominating all over the park, but once they get into first grade, they get told to stay on one side. I just dont get it.

100% correct.

Sheens "shackles" 95% of the players and insists on the forwards showing "no mongrel".

Benji and Robbie can do as they want, everyone else he's turned into robots that have to obey all his commands. It's why he never changes any of them. If you are "in" and follow his rule to the letter, you have a spot for life. That's the reward for giving up on any individuality and mongrel.

 

[softlaw]

how can you possibly say it was sheens' fault cnx
there's always so many excuses to be found as to why he's completely innocent
funny how well coached teams don;t seem to need to rely on excuses.

sod off sheens. you're rubbish

 

[cnx_tigers]

how can you possibly say it was sheens' fault cnx
there's always so many excuses to be found as to why he's completely innocent
funny how well coached teams don;t seem to need to rely on excuses.

sod off sheens. you're rubbish

Well said mate…......and I am matching you here whiskey for wine. I think you're on about number 6, I am on 5 (but they are all doubles)

:slight_smile:

 

[flash]

100% Sheens and his inside passes are so predictable, Bulldogs did nothing tonight and made us look ordinary. The effort was there in defence but we just don't have a clue in attack.

 

[cnx_tigers]

100% Sheens and his inside passes are so predictable, Bulldogs did nothing tonight and made us look ordinary. The effort was there in defence but we just don't have a clue in attack.

For me, that's what hurts the most about tonights loss mate. The fact the Bulldogs were very, very ordinary. I'd wager that 95% of teams would have beaten them tonight.

The fact we didn't even look like we were in the contest…............just, wow. We are a rabble.

The coach HAS to be accountable for the fact we lack any real attack without Benji.

Hagan rode Andrew John's jockstrap for years......then got exposed as bloke who can't coach.

Sheens seems almost untoucable though and we just inked him for three more years :frowning:

John Lang is coaching Souths without 70% of their pack....yet they might be equal with us in an hours time.

He's been sacked. Our bloke got three more years. Last 18 meeting = Lang 17, Sheens 1.

I just don't get it :frowning:

 

[Tigersmurf]

Lang didn't get sacked, he had only agreed to coach for two years. He never wanted any longer than that.

This thread is useless - he is signed up for 3 years so get used to it!

We defended well. They had two tries off dropped balls. It is frustrating that we cannot break the line or offload the ball to players in space, but we had a patched up broken team out there tonight. Miller should have played first receiver. If he is good enough for grade then he is good enough to run the team.

We won't make the 8 this year. If we shouldn't have resigned Sheens then who else would you have suggested? Sticky, Brown…..I don't think so. Folkes is the only one that could have been offered the job and now he is lost too!

 

[cnx_tigers]

This thread is useless - he is signed up for 3 years so get used to it!

We signed Gibbs for three years also…...................and Sheensy had no problem telling him "it was time to move on".

I've backed Sheens for a long time but mate, the time has come. He needs to look in the mirror and really ask if he's the right bloke for this club anymore. If he's honest, he'll say "no" and do the right thing.

We agreed and he agreed to move on if we failed to make the finals in 2010\. Yet somehow being garbage in 2011 is acceptable?

 

[tiger_tigers]

he is the Australian coach remember :crazy

hahahaha magpiecol could coach the kangaroos ….. you turn up just to get your gear .......

 

[tiger_tigers]

The sad thing is, i got the impression he dead set didnt give Miller a chance. Maybe im wrong, but it seemed he made Miller stay on the left and then decided to play all our attack on the right. When the game was gone it looked like Miller thought "stuff it", and he got himself involved and he looked ok. If your going to put a young guy in then give him free reign to do what he does best.

Im really tired of this left and right crap. Left centre, left backrower….and now we bloody have left and right halves....i cant believe it. These halves have come through the grades dominating all over the park, but once they get into first grade, they get told to stay on one side. I just dont get it.

100% correct.

Sheens "shackles" 95% of the players and insists on the forwards showing "no mongrel".

Benji and Robbie can do as they want, everyone else he's turned into robots that have to obey all his commands. It's why he never changes any of them. If you are "in" and follow his rule to the letter, you have a spot for life. That's the reward for giving up on any individuality and mongrel.

thats exactly why we need adam blair ….to instill some mongrel into the pack ..sheens has played favorites for years,thats why i wanted change .. sheens re signs so now he has to make the changes ....

 

[Tigersmurf]

This thread is useless - he is signed up for 3 years so get used to it!

We signed Gibbs for three years also…...................and Sheensy had no problem telling him "it was time to move on".

I've backed Sheens for a long time but mate, the time has come. He needs to look in the mirror and really ask if he's the right bloke for this club anymore. If he's honest, he'll say "no" and do the right thing.

We agreed and he agreed to move on if we failed to make the finals in 2010\. Yet somehow being garbage in 2011 is acceptable?

Come on CNX, the critisism of Sheens tonight is harsh - and I am not much of a fan of him! We have plenty of players out against a desperate dogs team that were getting some quality players back. I didn't want him resigned, I wanted Folkes.

No-one posted these comments when we played poorly against Newcastle and Penrith but won! We have played badly all year bar the Canberra game. We are not a team in form, but we are blooding some good kids with potential. Sheens is good with the juniors. He has a contract so lets give him time to develop our classy Under 20's, and should he fail lets hope for a better option at contracts end - bu then Benji will probably head to the UK anyway.