Shipbuilding Osborne Naval Shipyard South Aust

[BZN]

Wonder how the ships are removed removed from the water at the BA yard in WA? This time lapse clip is very interesting. There will be further investment in facilities at this yard for the future refitting of the Navy's new Hunter Class frigates. At 8,000t plus they represent significant growth over the Anzac frigates 3,500t.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ImA-MR_6kI

Simply amazing @pawsandclaws1 how a ship of that size can be moved on land.

 

[BalmainJnr]

Not shipbuilding but historic nevertheless @pawsandclaws1.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/unmanned-military-aircraft-to-be-designed-in-qld-for-the-first-time-outside-the-usa/news-story/6b3aa5891dab152352c70582b21ea782

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Not shipbuilding but historic nevertheless @pawsandclaws1.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/unmanned-military-aircraft-to-be-designed-in-qld-for-the-first-time-outside-the-usa/news-story/6b3aa5891dab152352c70582b21ea782

Thank for posting this article. Loyal wingman has interests internationally. The RAAF is one of the most well balanced and modern air arms in the world.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

For members interested in Defence, the Osborne Naval Shipyard has been completed. This shipyard has received coverage on the UK Defence Forum. The Brits are constructing their Type 26 frigates on the Clyde River, near Glasgow.

APM is a free online, just register. It provides detailed articles on the ADF, NZDF and our Pacific partners.

read://http_www.australiandefence.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.australiandefence.com.au%2Fnews%2Fosborne-south-shipyard-completes-construction%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%26utm_content%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%2BCID_34935dccf5200bb4d0e97ab9eb64fdbf%26utm_source%3DEmail%2520marketing%2520software%26utm_term%3DOsborne%2520South%2520shipyard%2520completes%2520construction

For those interested, the Govt looks like announcing the purchase of 29 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing in the US. These will replace the Airbus Tiger helicopters which have suffered from many teething problems and logistical support deficiencies. You may have read during the Vietnam War the RAAF could not deploy Mirage fighters as the French would not supply logistical support. This is an issue with some European acquisitions.

 

[SeanT]

For members interested in Defence, the Osborne Naval Shipyard has been completed. This shipyard has received coverage on the UK Defence Forum. The Brits are constructing their Type 26 frigates on the Clyde River, near Glasgow.

APM is a free online, just register. It provides detailed articles on the ADF, NZDF and our Pacific partners.

read://http_www.australiandefence.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.australiandefence.com.au%2Fnews%2Fosborne-south-shipyard-completes-construction%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%26utm_content%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%2BCID_34935dccf5200bb4d0e97ab9eb64fdbf%26utm_source%3DEmail%2520marketing%2520software%26utm_term%3DOsborne%2520South%2520shipyard%2520completes%2520construction

For those interested, the Govt looks like announcing the purchase of 29 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing in the US. These will replace the Airbus Tiger helicopters which have suffered from many teething problems and logistical support deficiencies. You may have read during the Vietnam War the RAAF could not deploy Mirage fighters as the French would not supply logistical support. This is an issue with some European acquisitions.

Teething problems alright. What a waste. Another stupid acquisition.

Any word on the new submarines yet? Are the designs even viable?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

For members interested in Defence, the Osborne Naval Shipyard has been completed. This shipyard has received coverage on the UK Defence Forum. The Brits are constructing their Type 26 frigates on the Clyde River, near Glasgow.

APM is a free online, just register. It provides detailed articles on the ADF, NZDF and our Pacific partners.

read://http_www.australiandefence.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.australiandefence.com.au%2Fnews%2Fosborne-south-shipyard-completes-construction%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%26utm_content%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%2BCID_34935dccf5200bb4d0e97ab9eb64fdbf%26utm_source%3DEmail%2520marketing%2520software%26utm_term%3DOsborne%2520South%2520shipyard%2520completes%2520construction

For those interested, the Govt looks like announcing the purchase of 29 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing in the US. These will replace the Airbus Tiger helicopters which have suffered from many teething problems and logistical support deficiencies. You may have read during the Vietnam War the RAAF could not deploy Mirage fighters as the French would not supply logistical support. This is an issue with some European acquisitions.

Teething problems alright. What a waste. Another stupid acquisition.

Any word on the new submarines yet? Are the designs even viable?

There is an article in the SMH that the cost of the submarine acquisition programme is $80bn although forecast at $50bn. The article in its headlines suggests the RAN knew the real cost was $80bn not $50bn. Do you remember the estimated $1bn wasted on the Seasprite helicopters that never entered service as they could never be modified to how the RAN wanted them? The RAAF is the service which has its act together in terms of acquisitiins, training and operations.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The link is a detailed article on the CODELOG propulsion of the new Hunter Class frigates. These are frigates in name only as reports suggest the ships will be 8 to 9,000 tonnes when first completed. The ships are configured for anti submarine warfare but differ from the British Type 26 design in that they will have the Australian CEA technologies designed CEAFAR L2 radar, SAAB tactical interface and the US Baseline 9 AEGIS combat management system. At this stage, there are 32 Mk41 launch tubes situated behind the 5inch gun.and provision for one Sikorsky Seahawk Ant Submarine Helicopter. A second can be accommodated in the boat bay.

These ships imo will become the finest sub hunters in the Asia Pacifuc region. With the proliferation of subs in the region it is paramount our navy rebuild this capability. The US do not have a ship designed for this function. They are to build a frigate based off the Italian FREMM design but significantly enlarged and equipped with US systems. The Italian FREMM was a competitor for the RAN programme but was unsuccessful.

The rafting of the propulsion units/equipment to reduce acoustic signatures of this class provides an insight into why these ships are potentially the finest sub hunters in the world. Combined with the ballistic missile defence capability of the Aegis Baseline 9 system and the cutting edge radar, these ships will be lethal.

https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/powering-the-stealthy-submarine-hunter-type-26-frigate-propulsion-system-in-focus/

 

[Guest]

For members interested in Defence, the Osborne Naval Shipyard has been completed. This shipyard has received coverage on the UK Defence Forum. The Brits are constructing their Type 26 frigates on the Clyde River, near Glasgow.

APM is a free online, just register. It provides detailed articles on the ADF, NZDF and our Pacific partners.

read://http_www.australiandefence.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.australiandefence.com.au%2Fnews%2Fosborne-south-shipyard-completes-construction%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%26utm_content%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%2BCID_34935dccf5200bb4d0e97ab9eb64fdbf%26utm_source%3DEmail%2520marketing%2520software%26utm_term%3DOsborne%2520South%2520shipyard%2520completes%2520construction

For those interested, the Govt looks like announcing the purchase of 29 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing in the US. These will replace the Airbus Tiger helicopters which have suffered from many teething problems and logistical support deficiencies. You may have read during the Vietnam War the RAAF could not deploy Mirage fighters as the French would not supply logistical support. This is an issue with some European acquisitions.

Teething problems alright. What a waste. Another stupid acquisition.

Any word on the new submarines yet? Are the designs even viable?

There is an article in the SMH that the cost of the submarine acquisition programme is $80bn although forecast at $50bn. The article in its headlines suggests the RAN knew the real coast was $80bn not $50bn. Do you remember the estimated $1bn wasted on the Seasprite helicopters that never entered service as they could never be modified to how the RAN wanted them? The RAAF is the service which has its act together in terms of acquisitiins, training and operations.

I worked on the Seasprite program, providing hardware and software support for the simulator. It was a monumental waste of money and a hideous design which was not fit for purpose.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

For members interested in Defence, the Osborne Naval Shipyard has been completed. This shipyard has received coverage on the UK Defence Forum. The Brits are constructing their Type 26 frigates on the Clyde River, near Glasgow.

APM is a free online, just register. It provides detailed articles on the ADF, NZDF and our Pacific partners.

read://http_www.australiandefence.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.australiandefence.com.au%2Fnews%2Fosborne-south-shipyard-completes-construction%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%26utm_content%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%2BCID_34935dccf5200bb4d0e97ab9eb64fdbf%26utm_source%3DEmail%2520marketing%2520software%26utm_term%3DOsborne%2520South%2520shipyard%2520completes%2520construction

For those interested, the Govt looks like announcing the purchase of 29 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing in the US. These will replace the Airbus Tiger helicopters which have suffered from many teething problems and logistical support deficiencies. You may have read during the Vietnam War the RAAF could not deploy Mirage fighters as the French would not supply logistical support. This is an issue with some European acquisitions.

Teething problems alright. What a waste. Another stupid acquisition.

Any word on the new submarines yet? Are the designs even viable?

There is an article in the SMH that the cost of the submarine acquisition programme is $80bn although forecast at $50bn. The article in its headlines suggests the RAN knew the real coast was $80bn not $50bn. Do you remember the estimated $1bn wasted on the Seasprite helicopters that never entered service as they could never be modified to how the RAN wanted them? The RAAF is the service which has its act together in terms of acquisitiins, training and operations.

I worked on the Seasprite program, providing hardware and software support for the simulator. It was a monumental waste of money and a hideous design which was not fit for purpose.

Absolutely. I just cannot fathom how $1bn could be wasted.

 

[jadtiger]

For members interested in Defence, the Osborne Naval Shipyard has been completed. This shipyard has received coverage on the UK Defence Forum. The Brits are constructing their Type 26 frigates on the Clyde River, near Glasgow.

APM is a free online, just register. It provides detailed articles on the ADF, NZDF and our Pacific partners.

read://http_www.australiandefence.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.australiandefence.com.au%2Fnews%2Fosborne-south-shipyard-completes-construction%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%26utm_content%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%2BCID_34935dccf5200bb4d0e97ab9eb64fdbf%26utm_source%3DEmail%2520marketing%2520software%26utm_term%3DOsborne%2520South%2520shipyard%2520completes%2520construction

For those interested, the Govt looks like announcing the purchase of 29 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing in the US. These will replace the Airbus Tiger helicopters which have suffered from many teething problems and logistical support deficiencies. You may have read during the Vietnam War the RAAF could not deploy Mirage fighters as the French would not supply logistical support. This is an issue with some European acquisitions.

Teething problems alright. What a waste. Another stupid acquisition.

Any word on the new submarines yet? Are the designs even viable?

There is an article in the SMH that the cost of the submarine acquisition programme is $80bn although forecast at $50bn. The article in its headlines suggests the RAN knew the real coast was $80bn not $50bn. Do you remember the estimated $1bn wasted on the Seasprite helicopters that never entered service as they could never be modified to how the RAN wanted them? The RAAF is the service which has its act together in terms of acquisitiins, training and operations.

I worked on the Seasprite program, providing hardware and software support for the simulator. It was a monumental waste of money and a hideous design which was not fit for purpose.

Absolutely. I just cannot fathom how $1bn could be wasted.

The Howard government refused to admit they got it wrong and kept on throwing money away.Governments of all persuasions are fantastic at wasting money on military hardware which does not work correctly and not just here either.

 

[BZN]

For members interested in Defence, the Osborne Naval Shipyard has been completed. This shipyard has received coverage on the UK Defence Forum. The Brits are constructing their Type 26 frigates on the Clyde River, near Glasgow.

APM is a free online, just register. It provides detailed articles on the ADF, NZDF and our Pacific partners.

read://http_www.australiandefence.com.au/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.australiandefence.com.au%2Fnews%2Fosborne-south-shipyard-completes-construction%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_campaign%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%26utm_content%3DADM%2520Headlines%2520-%252013%2520Oct%25202020%2BCID_34935dccf5200bb4d0e97ab9eb64fdbf%26utm_source%3DEmail%2520marketing%2520software%26utm_term%3DOsborne%2520South%2520shipyard%2520completes%2520construction

For those interested, the Govt looks like announcing the purchase of 29 Apache attack helicopters from Boeing in the US. These will replace the Airbus Tiger helicopters which have suffered from many teething problems and logistical support deficiencies. You may have read during the Vietnam War the RAAF could not deploy Mirage fighters as the French would not supply logistical support. This is an issue with some European acquisitions.

Teething problems alright. What a waste. Another stupid acquisition.

Any word on the new submarines yet? Are the designs even viable?

There is an article in the SMH that the cost of the submarine acquisition programme is $80bn although forecast at $50bn. The article in its headlines suggests the RAN knew the real coast was $80bn not $50bn. Do you remember the estimated $1bn wasted on the Seasprite helicopters that never entered service as they could never be modified to how the RAN wanted them? The RAAF is the service which has its act together in terms of acquisitiins, training and operations.

I worked on the Seasprite program, providing hardware and software support for the simulator. It was a monumental waste of money and a hideous design which was not fit for purpose.

Absolutely. I just cannot fathom how $1bn could be wasted.

[/QUOTE]

The rail gun the Russians have....or are developing.... (as mentioned in one of your articles) from what I hear is a very destructive and frightening 'thing'.
It seems we are heading into an uncertain future now that China is really starting to flex its muscle re world domination.

 

[Sataris]

I just wish Australia would bite the bullet and go with Nuclear powered submarines.

 

[mike]

I just wish Australia would bite the bullet and go with Nuclear powered submarines.

Just Nuclear Power period would be a massive leap forward.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I understand the US may not have the capacity to build nuclear submarines additional to it's own needs even if a decision was made to buy them.

I believe it is a shame Australia did not back its own capacity to design and construct an evolved Collins Class. With the knowledge gained from the Collins build and refits, you would think Australia would be well placed to build our own.

 

[Guest]

I understand the US may not have the capacity to build nuclear submarines additional to it's own needs even if a decision was made to buy them.

I believe it is a shame Australia did not back its own capacity to design and construct an evolved Collins Class. With the knowledge gained from the Collins build and refits, you would think Australia would be well placed to build our own.

Given how we are surrounded by water I'm stunned we haven't built our own fleet.

 

[Harvey]

I understand the US may not have the capacity to build nuclear submarines additional to it's own needs even if a decision was made to buy them.

I believe it is a shame Australia did not back its own capacity to design and construct an evolved Collins Class. With the knowledge gained from the Collins build and refits, you would think Australia would be well placed to build our own.

Doesn't matter who can or would build them, the NIMBY population would never allow nuclear powered submarines to dock in Australia

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I understand the US may not have the capacity to build nuclear submarines additional to it's own needs even if a decision was made to buy them.

I believe it is a shame Australia did not back its own capacity to design and construct an evolved Collins Class. With the knowledge gained from the Collins build and refits, you would think Australia would be well placed to build our own.

Doesn't matter who can or would build them, the NIMBY population would never allow nuclear powered submarines to dock in Australia

My mother's cousin's ship anchored in Sydney Harbour in the 60s. He was an officer on the US Navy nuclear powered carrier Enterprise.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I just wish Australia would bite the bullet and go with Nuclear powered submarines.

Just Nuclear Power period would be a massive leap forward.

By the time nuclear power plants are built and commissioned in Australia (they take 10-15 years,) fusion will likely be achievable. Renewables backed by a smaller coal plant baseload is probably the most economic way forward now. Nuclear had to be done in the 90's for it to be beneficial.

 

[mike]

I just wish Australia would bite the bullet and go with Nuclear powered submarines.

Just Nuclear Power period would be a massive leap forward.

By the time nuclear power plants are built and commissioned in Australia (they take 10-15 years,) fusion will likely be achievable. Renewables backed by a smaller coal plant baseload is probably the most economic way forward now. Nuclear had to be done in the 90's for it to be beneficial.

The idea would be to have no coal or gas based power plants and the only way to achieve that for the foreseeable future is Nuclear. Unless there is a major breakthrough in power storage, current battery technology just won’t cut it, it’s either coal, gas or nuclear to generate the baseline requirements for industry. Fusion would be great but yet to be realised beyond short moments. 70 seconds in a lab is the best we have been able to come up with, hardly a viable power generation system.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I just wish Australia would bite the bullet and go with Nuclear powered submarines.

Just Nuclear Power period would be a massive leap forward.

By the time nuclear power plants are built and commissioned in Australia (they take 10-15 years,) fusion will likely be achievable. Renewables backed by a smaller coal plant baseload is probably the most economic way forward now. Nuclear had to be done in the 90's for it to be beneficial.

The idea would be to have no coal or gas based power plants and the only way to achieve that for the foreseeable future is Nuclear. Unless there is a major breakthrough in power storage, current battery technology just won’t cut it, it’s either coal, gas or nuclear to generate the baseline requirements for industry. Fusion would be great but yet to be realised beyond short moments. 70 seconds in a lab is the best we have been able to come up with, hardly a viable power generation system.

I support nuclear power generation, but I think it should have been done 25-30 years ago in order to get the benefit from it. Once the ITER generator is up and running (I think the time line is about 5 years to commissioning,) they'll be able to give some sort of outline.