Should the NRL cease or cutback during SOO

happy_tiger

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It is plain to see that the players are pushing to have the NRL cease while the SOO series

Maybe we don't need it to cease as such

Could we run a 4 quarter knockout comp that starts the weekend before SOO , runs during the SOO and the final of the comp could be the curtain raiser for the last game of SOO

What are other thoughts

The NRL clearly don't want it changed , but what has happened to player welfare ??
 
I would rather forego SOO than further disrupt the comp, I want WT to be playing every week and not a fan of the byes, but understand their purpose.
 
Happy for teams to play every week through SOO, just not for premiership points. A Mickey mouse midyear knockout would keep the TV obligation sweet without derailing anyone's season.
 
the knockout comp is a great idea. with the playing field evened up by the stronger teams missing players (in general) it would also give the fans of those teams unaffected a fresh start mid year to do well. maybe this is when the 9s could be played?
 
As a consumer of the NRL, primarily through Fox, this is a pet dicussion of mine. The NRL has been a disgrace the past 6 weeks. It is absolutely horrible to watch and I have barely watched a match. The whole issue is Origin - a concept that is now dated and pointless.

Let's go back to why it started - wages. Queensland players moved to the NSWRL for wages and then played for NSW in the interstate clashes. So let's start State of Origin, it made sense in 1980\. It was great watching Origin in the 80's when you got to watch the likes of Lewis, Langer etc that weren't playing in the NSWRL.

Fast forward to 2014 - we have a nationalised wage system and we can watch Thurston, Cronk, Smith et al every week. The whole reason for starting SOO is now redundant. In fact, SOO played a key role in getting us to this point with the transformation of the NSWRL into the NRL from 1988.

Hence, let's view SOO for what it really is - marketing. SOO displays how the game can be played if you remove the salary cap. It's a great match to watch, but does the game need 3 matches, especially as it causes detriment to flagship product? Hence, if treated as a marketing concept, I would argue the game just needs 1 SOO per year - stand alone weekend and that's final.

The comeback to this argument is that it rates through the roof and generates 20% of the games revenue. The revenue statistic is disturbing - essentially the game has become reliant on a product that whilst having a reliance on the flagship product, at the same time, it causes significant erosion. A key question is if SOO was reduced to 1 match with the NRL product being enhanced is enhanced (ie: minimal reduction in quality - 1 week). would the drop in tv revenue from reducing SOO be recaptured somewhat as the NRL is now better quality for longer?
 
Split the season in half - have a three week Origin period after Rd 13\. Three consecutive Sunday nights at 6:30pm.

The Rugby Union do it with the Super Rugby. The English Super League do it. I'd rather have no football on than watch two reserve grade sides masquerade around as NRL. The lower quality football we see through Origin is more detrimental to the game than a 3 week break IMO.

Throw in a few other games like a NZ v combined Pacific Islands, Q Cup v NSW Cup etc.
 
@alex said:
Split the season in half - have a three week Origin period after Rd 13\. Three consecutive Sunday nights at 6:30pm.

The Rugby Union do it with the Super Rugby. The English Super League do it. I'd rather have no football on than watch two reserve grade sides masquerade around as NRL. The lower quality football we see through Origin is more detrimental to the game than a 3 week break IMO.

Throw in a few other games like a NZ v combined Pacific Islands, Q Cup v NSW Cup etc.

Combine it with three games of NYC SOO and also NSW Cup v Qld Cup three game series
Add the knockout comp and a one month trade period and the game would definitely keep up the interest it would usually do
 
I don't care.

I haven't watched SOO for years. It's SOWYWTPF anyway not SOO

State of who you want to play for.

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Origin has slowly become a farce IMO
I'd rather watch a decent club game any day

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@hobbo2803 said:
Origin has slowly become a farce IMO
I'd rather watch a decent club game any day

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I agree the last few games have been that way

We need refs who will take no crap or prisoners and start sending them off as soon as the niggle or melee's erupt
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
As a consumer of the NRL, primarily through Fox, this is a pet dicussion of mine. The NRL has been a disgrace the past 6 weeks. It is absolutely horrible to watch and I have barely watched a match. The whole issue is Origin - a concept that is now dated and pointless.

Let's go back to why it started - wages. Queensland players moved to the NSWRL for wages and then played for NSW in the interstate clashes. So let's start State of Origin, it made sense in 1980\. It was great watching Origin in the 80's when you got to watch the likes of Lewis, Langer etc that weren't playing in the NSWRL.

Fast forward to 2014 - we have a nationalised wage system and we can watch Thurston, Cronk, Smith et al every week. The whole reason for starting SOO is now redundant. In fact, SOO played a key role in getting us to this point with the transformation of the NSWRL into the NRL from 1988.

Hence, let's view SOO for what it really is - marketing. SOO displays how the game can be played if you remove the salary cap. It's a great match to watch, but does the game need 3 matches, especially as it causes detriment to flagship product? Hence, if treated as a marketing concept, I would argue the game just needs 1 SOO per year - stand alone weekend and that's final.

The comeback to this argument is that it rates through the roof and generates 20% of the games revenue. The revenue statistic is disturbing - essentially the game has become reliant on a product that whilst having a reliance on the flagship product, at the same time, it causes significant erosion. A key question is if SOO was reduced to 1 match with the NRL product being enhanced is enhanced (ie: minimal reduction in quality - 1 week). would the drop in tv revenue from reducing SOO be recaptured somewhat as the NRL is now better quality for longer?

I agree however it does not matter if it would. The fact is at the time it is shown it is the biggest ratings TV show of the year , record ratings this year. The network will never give that up, ever. Unless the ratings drop the current 3 game format will continue. It will not make any difference what you and I may think will be good for the game. Money talks and that's what the current version of the SOO is all about. It is a huge revenue earner not just for Rugby League but more importantly for the TV network that broadcasts it. Game over.

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They need to look holistically if it's money. What's the lost revenue to the weekly games gates and tv ad sales. If it's down during SSO or down second half of the season (year on year) it should go. Let's go pro ball style. 1 game mid year

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