Siege in Sydney Cafe

@Geo. said:
Yes that's fine ….by all means have the discussion no one is saying you can't... but do it in here.....

http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4422&p=550657#p550657

Leave this thread agenda free as a tribute to those who tragically lost their lives...

THANK YOU

Acknowledged Geo.EDITED.But going back on topic god bless Tori and Katrina.
 
SYDNEY’S chief Islamic ­funeral director yesterday declared no Muslim funeral home would accept the body of terrorist Man Haron Monis and authorities should just dump his corpse at sea or “chuck him in the bloody shithouse”.

The 50-year-old extremist’s body remains in the morgue and is awaiting a complex ­autopsy. His body will be ­released before Christmas, but nobody has yet claimed it.

MUSLIM LEADERS: DUMP HIS BODY AT SEA

If Monis’s partner does not claim his body he will be given a “destitute funeral” by the Department of Health.

The Daily Telegraph contacted a number of Islamic groups around the state, who all distanced themselves from the gunman and derided the Martin Place siege as an act of bastardry.

“We don’t care about him, we don’t know him, chuck him in the bloody shithouse,” said Amin Sayed, funeral director with the Lebanese Muslim ­Association.
“Nobody’s going to do his funeral, No Muslim funeral home will accept him.

“They can throw him in the bloody sea.”

Mr Sayed, who has overseen Muslim funerals in Sydney for 24 years, said he had had a number of conversations with cemetery managers around the city who said Monis would be buried “secretly” and in an unmarked grave.

“Anyone who does harm to Australians, we don’t want him,” he said.

“This is not a human, this is an animal. He killed innocent people … even if you paid us $3 million we would not do his funeral.”

Muslim leader Keysar Trad said the imam of the Lakemba mosque “doesn’t want a bar of him”. But he added that according to Islamic law, no Muslim can be denied a holy funeral unless they renounced their religion prior to death.

A forensic pathologist will carry out an autopsy on his body following a request from the coroner.

A NSW Health spokeswoman said: “Local health districts are responsible for the processing and payment of destitute burials and cremations in their district.

“Where the death of a person has occurred outside of a public health facility, and the police have determined that the state is ultimately responsible for their burial, the local health district will fund a funeral,” she said.

The department was unable to confirm yesterday how much money is spent on destitute funerals.

The Attorney-General’s Department said Monis’s next-of-kin, his wife Amirah Droudis, is responsible for what happens to his body.
 
So everyone's been banging on with their political comments for about 10 pages on this thread, but my comment is the ONLY one that gets deleted - that's fair, thanks so much.
 
@Flippedy said:
So everyone's been banging on with their political comments for about 10 pages on this thread, but my comment is the ONLY one that gets deleted - that's fair, thanks so much.

No your post is not the only one….a number of posts have been deleted and as has been stated no one is saying the politics can't be debated or discussed,,,

Please just discuss it in this thread .., http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4422&start=3438

THANK YOU
 
My bad Geo I started this off , but added it wasn't the time or place

Lets just discuss it in the appropriate thread and Forum and respect the people who went through hell
 
So has it been determined how Katrina Dawson was killed? I have a feeling it might have been friendly fire sadly.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
So has it been determined how Katrina Dawson was killed? I have a feeling it might have been friendly fire sadly.

Might be wrong but I did read it wasn't ff. neither hostage was killed in cross fire but by the gunman.

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@dazza65 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
So has it been determined how Katrina Dawson was killed? I have a feeling it might have been friendly fire sadly.

Might be wrong but I did read it wasn't ff. neither hostage was killed in cross fire but by the gunman.

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Look I'm not an expert , but it wouldn't be that hard to tell the difference between a bullet wound and a shotgun blast

I would imagine they already know

That why I questioned this when the talk started Wednesday evening
 
@happy tiger said:
@dazza65 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
So has it been determined how Katrina Dawson was killed? I have a feeling it might have been friendly fire sadly.

Might be wrong but I did read it wasn't ff. neither hostage was killed in cross fire but by the gunman.

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Look I'm not an expert , but it wouldn't be that hard to tell the difference between a bullet wound and a shotgun blast

I would imagine they already know

That why I questioned this when the talk started Wednesday evening

You can tell the difference in a post between a bullet and shotgun pellets

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Comments? (About the story not the author )
I tend to agree

http://www.news.com.au/national/opinion-why-does-islam-beget-violence/story-e6frfkp9-1227158640432

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@dazza65 said:
@happy tiger said:
@dazza65 said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
So has it been determined how Katrina Dawson was killed? I have a feeling it might have been friendly fire sadly.

Might be wrong but I did read it wasn't ff. neither hostage was killed in cross fire but by the gunman.

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Look I'm not an expert , but it wouldn't be that hard to tell the difference between a bullet wound and a shotgun blast

I would imagine they already know

That why I questioned this when the talk started Wednesday evening

You can tell the difference in a post between a bullet and shotgun pellets

http://www.news.com.au/national/sydney-siege-katrina-dawson-was-killed-by-gunmans-bullets-report/story-fncynjr2-1227161070113

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looks like the wife is going in. Bail review Monday. She's been put on notice. So much for my fat greek wedding.

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@happy tiger said:
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/28/09/49/one-of-the-sydney-siege-victims-may-have-been-hit-by-police-bullet

Not much tangible anything in that…all speculation at this stage

Im not saying its not possible, makes little difference to me if it is correct...but this is much like DT rubbish, channel 9 in the same boat
 
@innsaneink said:
@happy tiger said:
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/12/28/09/49/one-of-the-sydney-siege-victims-may-have-been-hit-by-police-bullet

Not much tangible anything in that…all speculation at this stage

Im not saying its not possible, makes little difference to me if it is correct...but this is much like DT rubbish, channel 9 in the same boat

Yeah true Ink ,but heard something about this 10 days ago and asked whether anyone else had

I'm guessing by now they would definitely know whether it was a shot gun blast or a bullet
 
I don't know much about firearms, so maybe I'm being naive, but really how hard would it be to find out what bullets from which gun hit the victims? There would only be the police issue firearms and the gunman's shotgun. I'm sure the surgeons gave the police the bullets from each victim to compare them.
 
I think its almost a certainty that she was hit by friendly fire. The fact its taken this long speaks volumes. If it was friendly fire we might never know cos then the police won't be hailed as the heroes they've been made out to be.
 
Only a turd would somehow blame police for any death or downplay their role in the terrible incident.
At the end of the day ONE person created this mess…he is solely responsible for eveything that eventuated

It doesnt matter what bullet killed the victims
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It **doesnt matter** what bullet killed the victims
 
@innsaneink said:
Only a turd would somehow blame police for any death or downplay their role in the terrible incident.
At the end of the day ONE person created this mess…he is solely responsible for eveything that eventuated

It doesnt matter what bullet killed the victims
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It **doesnt matter** what bullet killed the victims

Wasn't suggesting that at all Ink

Literally as I said earlier in the thread I had heard a suggestion when hearing the back end of an article on the TV and was asking the question had anyone else heard anything

This was the 1st time since that it had been raised again that I knew of
 
@Flippedy said:
I don't know much about firearms, so maybe I'm being naive, but really how hard would it be to find out what bullets from which gun hit the victims? There would only be the police issue firearms and the gunman's shotgun. I'm sure the surgeons gave the police the bullets from each victim to compare them.

Very easy to identify the difference.

The police used Long-arms rifles which shoots a single project-doll.

The shooter used a shot-gun which is several small project dolls.

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