AmericanHistoryX
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we didnt have a choice - the fans
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Siege in Sydney Cafe
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Tim Sheens
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@gambler said:
Bloody good, shame though that the radical few can have such a negative influence, particularly on the more ignorant in society.
Whether they are hiding behind balaclavas and holding black and white flags, or wearing white gowns with pointy hats, they are all the same.
AmericanHistoryX
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dont forget the groupies
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happy_tiger
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I've been at work all day , has something happened in regards to the lady who was shot and died ??
I just caught the last of a new article and it sounded like they were questioning friendly fire ??
I just caught the last of a new article and it sounded like they were questioning friendly fire ??
Blackpearl
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@foreveratiger said:
onyaforeveratiger, just had to put it out there as well how much cabra has come on over the past ten years or so. fyi foreveratiger canley kooka's are still going strong ( even though i am old old guildford owls player ).and has produced players such as steve sharp and michael vella.
@happy tiger said:
Not on the News down here Happy…..I'm sure this sort of speculation will continue tho....
GNR4LIFE
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@foreveratiger said:
Cabra's cleaned up its act unbelievably the last couple yrs. I remember once when i was little, walking through there with my mum and some guy offered her herion with me holding her hand. No shame they had. You'd be hard pressed finding that culture there now. Really proud in a way having lived there till i was 10.
Livo is the place now that's a hole. Especially up past the plaza, never know what you're gonna be in for.
foreveratiger
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Good to hear Blackpearl , Michael Vella played all his junior football with me , we were in the same sides then in under 15's he went to Fairfield Pat's. Played a few semi Final's at Mccredie oval Guildford , there Goal post's were unbelievably high 😱pen_mouth:
foreveratiger
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One time in 2001 had to go to Cabramatta the Mrs needed some Material for dresses , i waited outside the shop in the car while she went in , This Asian fellow with long hair diagonally across the road kept staring at me and then he started walking towards my car i said to myself "shit i'm gone here" then he lent over the passenger's window which was open and said "you okay"? i said yeah no problems , he said "you sure you don't need anything"? I think he might of been in 5T or something , he had Dragon Tattoos all over his arms . He probably thought i was an undercover or i was wanting drugs . Bloody scare y look on him.
Jerry_Seinfeld
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@Chris said:
Bloody oath.To me the biggest danger to our Aussie culture we cherish is not ISIS but the left wing do gooders who seem hell bent on destroying anything that is uniquely Australian but at the same time are more than happy to bend over and cop it in the rear from isis etc claiming that we are racist whenever we conduct a terrorist raid etc.Once we rid Australia of these clowns we will be in a much better position to rid Australia of ISIS followers and any other individual/group of anti Australian sentiment.Remember those big terrorist raids about 6 weeks ago that netted just a few arrest and the Sydney Morning herald screamed victimisation of muslims by us racist Aussies well one of the men who was on the streets of Lakemba protesting that night was this Man Monis clown who did the Lindt cafe siege.What do u say now SMH and its loyal tree hugging followers.
Here you go. EXACTLY what I've been saying.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-haron-monis-the-10-fatal-failures-that-led-to-a-horrific-day/story-fnl2dlu7-1227161276856
Man Haron Monis: The 10 fatal failures that led to a horrific day
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AT least 10 catastrophic failings by federal and state agencies led to the Martin Place atrocity, which Prime Minister Tony Abbott yesterday admitted could have been a “preventable tragedy”.
>
Had one of the failings been overturned, the terrorist attack which rocked a nation to the core might have been prevented.
>
A furious Mr Abbott yesterday vowed a swift outcome to an urgent review he ordered on Wednesday into every aspect of the siege.
>
He said the failings, which happened under a string of governments, were a “horrific wake-up call”.
>
“It may well have been a preventable atrocity, and that’s why this swift and thorough review is so important,’’ he said.
>
“This guy has a long history of violence, he has a long history of mental instability, he has a long criminal record and an obvious infatuation with extremism, so it was extraordinary he was on our streets.”
>
FAILED: GRANTED BAIL OVER MURDER
>
In December last year Man Monis was granted bail in Penrith Local Court despite being charged with being an accessory before and after the fact to killing his ex-wife Noleen Hayson Pal. She was stabbed 18 times and set alight in one of the state’s most brutal murders. Bail was granted under old bail laws that made it easier for criminals to be set free.
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FAILED: SAVED FROM EXTRADITION
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In 2000 Iran attempted to extradite Monis from Australia back to his homeland to face fraud charges. Monis had defrauded clients who had paid him money as part of the travel agency he owned.
>
Australia refused the request because there was no extradition treaty between the two nations.
>
FAILED: DROPPED OFF WATCH LIST
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Intelligence agencies had Monis on the terror watch list before he dropped off it in about 2010.
>
Had he been on the list he more than likely would not have been granted bail.
>
FAILED: GRANTED CITIZENSHIP
>
Monis was granted Australian citizenship in 2004 despite a warrant being out in Iran for his arrest.
>
He should have faced justice in his homeland far earlier. Instead he was granted citizenship in Australia.
>
The Iranian foreign ministry said Australian authorities knew about Monis’s problems.
>
FAILED: ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY
>
The terrorist first came to Australia in 1996 and was granted political refugee status. The Iranian government were chasing him for fraud. Despite the allegations he was allowed into Australia.
>
FAILED: GIVEN LEGAL AID
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After he wrote disgraceful letters to widows of Australian war heroes Monis used Legal Aid to go to the High Court in a bid for the trial to be aborted. The taxpayers paid the bill.
>
FAILED: GUN LICENCE MIX-UP
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National databases, which interstate police use to share information, indicated Monis held a gun licence.
>
Mr Abbott confirmed on Wednesday Monis had a licence, but it was later revealed the database was wrong and the AFP was forced to explain the error in the system.
>
“The AFP has been working closely with CrimTrac, federal and state partners to establish the source of the entry, and to identify any shortfalls within the current system,’’ a statement said.
>
FAILED: ALLOWED TO LIVE ON WELFARE
>
The terrorist lived off the hard work of everyday Australians.
>
If he was not allowed to claim welfare it would have made it more difficult for him to stay in Australia.
>
FAILED: MULTIPLE IDENTITIES
>
Tracking the terrorist throughout his 18 years in Australia proved difficult because he had multiple aliases.
>
Man Haron Monis came to Australia as Mohammad Hassan Manteghi.
>
He was later known as Sheik Haron. It is believed he had other names.
>
FAILED: INFORMATION NOT SHARED
>
Questions have been raised about whether commonwealth and state agencies share enough information. It is believed agencies made decisions without having access to information that other agencies knew about. It will form part of the urgent review ordered by Prime Minister Abbott.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/man-haron-monis-the-10-fatal-failures-that-led-to-a-horrific-day/story-fnl2dlu7-1227161276856
Man Haron Monis: The 10 fatal failures that led to a horrific day
\
\
AT least 10 catastrophic failings by federal and state agencies led to the Martin Place atrocity, which Prime Minister Tony Abbott yesterday admitted could have been a “preventable tragedy”.
>
Had one of the failings been overturned, the terrorist attack which rocked a nation to the core might have been prevented.
>
A furious Mr Abbott yesterday vowed a swift outcome to an urgent review he ordered on Wednesday into every aspect of the siege.
>
He said the failings, which happened under a string of governments, were a “horrific wake-up call”.
>
“It may well have been a preventable atrocity, and that’s why this swift and thorough review is so important,’’ he said.
>
“This guy has a long history of violence, he has a long history of mental instability, he has a long criminal record and an obvious infatuation with extremism, so it was extraordinary he was on our streets.”
>
FAILED: GRANTED BAIL OVER MURDER
>
In December last year Man Monis was granted bail in Penrith Local Court despite being charged with being an accessory before and after the fact to killing his ex-wife Noleen Hayson Pal. She was stabbed 18 times and set alight in one of the state’s most brutal murders. Bail was granted under old bail laws that made it easier for criminals to be set free.
>
FAILED: SAVED FROM EXTRADITION
>
In 2000 Iran attempted to extradite Monis from Australia back to his homeland to face fraud charges. Monis had defrauded clients who had paid him money as part of the travel agency he owned.
>
Australia refused the request because there was no extradition treaty between the two nations.
>
FAILED: DROPPED OFF WATCH LIST
>
Intelligence agencies had Monis on the terror watch list before he dropped off it in about 2010.
>
Had he been on the list he more than likely would not have been granted bail.
>
FAILED: GRANTED CITIZENSHIP
>
Monis was granted Australian citizenship in 2004 despite a warrant being out in Iran for his arrest.
>
He should have faced justice in his homeland far earlier. Instead he was granted citizenship in Australia.
>
The Iranian foreign ministry said Australian authorities knew about Monis’s problems.
>
FAILED: ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY
>
The terrorist first came to Australia in 1996 and was granted political refugee status. The Iranian government were chasing him for fraud. Despite the allegations he was allowed into Australia.
>
FAILED: GIVEN LEGAL AID
>
After he wrote disgraceful letters to widows of Australian war heroes Monis used Legal Aid to go to the High Court in a bid for the trial to be aborted. The taxpayers paid the bill.
>
FAILED: GUN LICENCE MIX-UP
>
National databases, which interstate police use to share information, indicated Monis held a gun licence.
>
Mr Abbott confirmed on Wednesday Monis had a licence, but it was later revealed the database was wrong and the AFP was forced to explain the error in the system.
>
“The AFP has been working closely with CrimTrac, federal and state partners to establish the source of the entry, and to identify any shortfalls within the current system,’’ a statement said.
>
FAILED: ALLOWED TO LIVE ON WELFARE
>
The terrorist lived off the hard work of everyday Australians.
>
If he was not allowed to claim welfare it would have made it more difficult for him to stay in Australia.
>
FAILED: MULTIPLE IDENTITIES
>
Tracking the terrorist throughout his 18 years in Australia proved difficult because he had multiple aliases.
>
Man Haron Monis came to Australia as Mohammad Hassan Manteghi.
>
He was later known as Sheik Haron. It is believed he had other names.
>
FAILED: INFORMATION NOT SHARED
>
Questions have been raised about whether commonwealth and state agencies share enough information. It is believed agencies made decisions without having access to information that other agencies knew about. It will form part of the urgent review ordered by Prime Minister Abbott.
Leave the politics for the politics thread. Anything that isn't pertinent to this topic will be moved/deleted.
I understand the concern regarding this thread turning into a political nightmare..
However, as AMXH has said it needs to be discussed so as to help find solutions to this tradgedy and something like this doesn't occur again..
People have all different ideas and opinions but,in the light of what has happened most of us are hurting and feeling deeply saddened for the people and families left forever haunted by this absolute despicable act in our great country….
Can we really look at these victims and their families and honestly wish THEM a merry Xmas...
So in that regard maybe the whole judicial system does need a complete over haul,maybe then we can all feel safer not just for us or our families but all Austalians as one.......
However, as AMXH has said it needs to be discussed so as to help find solutions to this tradgedy and something like this doesn't occur again..
People have all different ideas and opinions but,in the light of what has happened most of us are hurting and feeling deeply saddened for the people and families left forever haunted by this absolute despicable act in our great country….
Can we really look at these victims and their families and honestly wish THEM a merry Xmas...
So in that regard maybe the whole judicial system does need a complete over haul,maybe then we can all feel safer not just for us or our families but all Austalians as one.......
AmericanHistoryX
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its the politics that got us into this abstract entity -
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Jerry_Seinfeld
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@AmericanHistoryX said:
Agree totally.
Yes that's fine ….by all means have the discussion no one is saying you can't... but do it in here.....
http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4422&p=550657#p550657
Leave this thread agenda free as a tribute to those who tragically lost their lives...
THANK YOU
http://www.weststigersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4422&p=550657#p550657
Leave this thread agenda free as a tribute to those who tragically lost their lives...
THANK YOU
AmericanHistoryX
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this thread should be pinned according to your sentiments Geo - as a remberence to the loss of lives & our innocence.
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