Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[rugbygoated]

I gave Luai some criticism last night but you only have to look at how Dylan Brown is performing tonight with the kicking game without Moses to see how hard it is to adapt without your regular halves partner. Top 5/8s can struggle

 

[innsaneink]

Why not spend 1.2 million per season to find out.

Is it like K Mart we get a refund as long as we have the docket?

 

[KingRobbie]

I think we have a Finau on the books don’t we KR?
I think it’s confused me previously. Not that it’s difficult to be Confucius.

Yep, one of our NSW Cup props is Josh Finau.

 

[Vicious]

Is it like K Mart we get a refund as long as we have the docket?

More like Wish, refunds are very hard to get.

 

[tigermate]

My view for what’s it’s worth is

1. Upgrade galvin now and extend him for a further 3 yrs (if possible)… would have to upgrade the next 3 years from (these are numbers I believe in media for his current contract)
yr 1$150 to $250 ,
Yr 2 $250 to $450 and
Yr 3 $350 to $500,
and then further 3 yrs at $1m. (Moves up with salary cap)

* he’s only going to extend if we upgrade the next three years of his deal so we can use that as leverage.

And then get rid of sullivan and douehi

Keep sezer for next yr

And then play Fainu in the centers like Matt Burton did for Penrith. (If he’s good enough)

Have sezer on the bench.

Play galvin 6, luai 7, fainu 3.

Then in 2028 when Fainus deal is up we have luai for another two years - if fainu is better then luai - sell luai last two years of his deal to someone else or if luai better let fainu go and be a 6 somewhere and earn bigger coin.

Sezer is our back up next year as 14 and then after next year TDS is our 14 until API retires and then he takes over

 

[Vicious]

My view for what’s it’s worth is

1. Upgrade galvin now and extend him for a further 3 yrs (if possible)… would have to upgrade the next 3 years from (these are numbers I believe in media for his current contract)
yr 1$150 to $250 ,
Yr 2 $250 to $450 and
Yr 3 $350 to $500,
and then further 3 yrs at $1m. (Moves up with salary cap)

* he’s only going to extend if we upgrade the next three years of his deal so we can use that as leverage.

And then get rid of sullivan and douehi

Keep sezer for next yr

And then play Fainu in the centers like Matt Burton did for Penrith. (If he’s good enough)

Have sezer on the bench.

Play galvin 6, luai 7, fainu 3.

Then in 2028 when Fainus deal is up we have luai for another two years - if fainu is better then luai - sell luai last two years of his deal to someone else or if luai better let fainu go and be a 6 somewhere and earn bigger coin.

Sezer is our back up next year as 14 and then after next year TDS is our 14 until API retires and then he takes over

Some good ideas, particularly the Galvin upgrade/extension.
Not sure if Latu Fainu would be suited to playing as a full time centre, but I think he’s the perfect 14 who can come on as a backup 9, play in the halves or even short stints at 13 for some extra spark in attack,
Da Silva would also need his fair share of games, but that shouldn’t be a problem when injuries occur etc.

 

[Lestronge]

Lol

Cam murray makes like 50 tackles a game.

You think he wants or should do that with his talent? Listen to his interviews - “I want to play 6”.

He wanted to leave bc we bought too many halves ! He wasn’t thinking great I’ll move to 13.

He’s favorite player he models himself on is Munster - a 6.

We’ve basically got Munster in jack wightons body - and everyone wants to shift him lol.

Galvin is a better ball player than Sutton and yeo and Murray - and probably if we had him in the team against the dolphins we win he’s that good.

Playing in the middle of the ruck is a waste.

I get everyone wanting to fit everyone in the team but he’ll leave

Someone will offer him the chance to play 6 for $1m a year and he’ll go.

Lucky Richo and Benji aren’t as short sighted as people here

Munster was a fullback / centre , then a makeshift 6 .
He’s the epitome of a player evolving into his true position.
If Galvin does become a ball playing lock , the thats where he ends up . Wally Lewis ended up there , Brad Clyde as well . Hell a different era and different type of player , but Raper is an immortal playing there .
People speak about it like it’s a step down . It’s hardly that .
Hell even Burgess will be enshrined in RL folklore with his GF effort out of lock . As much as I hate the bunnies .

 

[Lestronge]

how about we just chill out . Fainu did his hammy again , even with a minutes restriction , Sullivan is just not a half IMO, and Sezer will be another year older next year . Injuries, suspension , form , will all play thier part .
All will get thier run , and it will sort itself out in the wash.

 

[The Chad]

My only issue with Latu in the centres is that Faataape is the obvious one to be relegated.

2 tough outings against quality players at the Sharks & Parramatta. And Canberra- but we try to forget that game. In all those games it can be argued he held his own, and improved in each outing.

Then against the Dolphins- 2 tries. His defence alongside Staines is REMARKABLY IMPROVED over To'a & Nofa. I think we got a low cost, quality player.

As much as I want Latu in the squad, I don't think it's at Faataape's expense.

Moving Galvin seems unfair on Galvin, but he's better suited to shifting position that Fainu.

I'd still be looking at Galvin playing in Bateman's spot & having Bateman play #13, moving Pole to the bench.

Galvin could be the new Liam Fulton....or better yet, Gavin Miller. He's probably everything Josh Schuster SHOULD be.

 

[weststigerman]

Fainu is going to take a bit longer than Galvin.

Needs to focus on getting himself fit to play 80 minutes and get his hamstring right.

 

[crazycat]

Luai is not a kicker. Not a sharp shooter. What his role is will be experience. Who will do our kicking in 2025? Who will direct us around the park? Sezer is a good start. We have some sort of navigation.

You are right.

Luai isn't known to be a kicker, I think I have seen a grubber or something from him in the past.

I watched the early Penrith games and I remember thinking that Cleary had SO much space to kick and seemed to be just doing the kicking while Luai was marshalling the team.

Luai hasn't really been involved in anything halfbackie for awhile. Earlier he was organising the Penrith line and seemed to be doing a lot more positional work.

No reason the halfback has to kick, Pat Richards, Hazem El Mazri, Craig Fitzgibbon etc come to mind.

We do need someone who will organise and marshall the team in attack and defense. That's what I worry about with Luai.

 

[crazycat]

My only issue with Latu in the centres is that Faataape is the obvious one to be relegated.

2 tough outings against quality players at the Sharks & Parramatta. And Canberra- but we try to forget that game. In all those games it can be argued he held his own, and improved in each outing.

Then against the Dolphins- 2 tries. His defence alongside Staines is REMARKABLY IMPROVED over To'a & Nofa. I think we got a low cost, quality player.

As much as I want Latu in the squad, I don't think it's at Faataape's expense.

Moving Galvin seems unfair on Galvin, but he's better suited to shifting position that Fainu.

I'd still be looking at Galvin playing in Bateman's spot & having Bateman play #13, moving Pole to the bench.

Galvin could be the new Liam Fulton....or better yet, Gavin Miller. He's probably everything Josh Schuster SHOULD be.

What all 85 kg's of Galvin??

Sure we can break him at lock.
Fainu is 90kg and Bateman is 95....

Galvin is NO WHERE NEAR ready for a regular forward/lock/second rower and I don't think we want him to be that just yet. Sure the guy is tough, Physically he is no where near ready for a regular spot at the front. He has claimed 5/8 and with his current form I am happy to leave him there or let other players try and outplay him.

We do need to give our new players solid spots that they can train in. It's one problem we have in recruiting 4 halves at once.

 

[bbobb]

I like Galvin at 5/8 and would keep him there. Rarely have I seen an 18 year old so composed. His footy nous and maturity are outstanding.
As an 18 year old however is still growing physically and will fill out and put more weight on especially with weights programs etc. I have noted that he is not blessed with blinding speed and that may change his position in the future but that would 3 seasons plus.
I would leave him for the moment and hopefully continue his extraordinary progress.

 

[The Chad]

What all 85 kg's of Galvin??

Sure we can break him at lock.
Fainu is 90kg and Bateman is 95....

Galvin is NO WHERE NEAR ready for a regular forward/lock/second rower and I don't think we want him to be that just yet. Sure the guy is tough, Physically he is no where near ready for a regular spot at the front. He has claimed 5/8 and with his current form I am happy to leave him there or let other players try and outplay him.

We do need to give our new players solid spots that they can train in. It's one problem we have in recruiting 4 halves at once.

Perhaps I should preface my comments with the words 'eventually', or 'in time'?

 

[tigermate]

regardless of what we all think and believe and differ on … how good is it to have a gun junior again lol

Not since moses and teddy days!

Hopefully we just hold onto at least galvin.

I would be gutted if he left after 3 yrs.

He’s going to be better than teddy and moses IMHO lol. I know that’s a big statement but if he stays injury free I can’t see why not

 

[jrtiger]

leave Galvin at 6 please. there is absolutely no reason for him to be moved at this point, nor will there be for some time. hell, he may own the jumper until he retires.

Latu didn’t look out of place last night but he certainly didn’t make an impact in attack. he needs time in Cup and needs to be scoring and setting up tries at will before we even consider him for the 14, let alone at 6. he’s incredibly talented but very raw and clearly his body isn’t ready for high minutes week to week in any grade, let alone firsts.

 

[weststigers]

Great post. I’ll concede. I think he has to be at 6.

I’m just worried about Luai at 7 - and Sezer is an experienced 7 guiding us really well.

I still reckon an opportunity exists for Sezer to play 13 next year.

Dude, you pasted me for saying Luai could fill 13 if we needed to fit Luai, Latu and Galvin into the same team and you come up with that?

 

[weststigers]

regardless of what we all think and believe and differ on … how good is it to have a gun junior again lol

Not since moses and teddy days!

Hopefully we just hold onto at least galvin.

I would be gutted if he left after 3 yrs.

He’s going to be better than teddy and moses IMHO lol. I know that’s a big statement but if he stays injury free I can’t see why not

Galvin is number 1 priority.

That kid lives and breathes football. He doesn't go to parties apparently, comes from a good family, doesn't drink. We need to take care of him at this club. If Latu leaves, I'm prepared to cop that if it means Galvin is kept.

 

[Buttface]

Yep, one of our NSW Cup props is Josh Finau.

Is he any good, is he a candidate for NRL in his lifetime?

 

[Todd Packer]

There sure is a lot of faith in Fainu seeing as how he's permanently injured so far.
Galvin plays like a quality 6 or 7 why would you dilute that by moving him?